Apple Falls From 1st to 17th Spot in 'World's Most Innovative Company' Rankings

[Radon87000]

The foldable, flexible has been in the works from companies other than Samsung for years. So innovation no, second to market yes.

Samsung has been working on this for over 6 years. Bringing out a half baked cobbled together solution with no guarantee of software support and no custom designed apps for the foldable device is not innovation.

Now it’s arguable whether Huawei or Samsung or was more innovative with the Fold but the fact remains that Android OEMs have surpassed Apple in innovation.

iPhone in 2019- Frosted glass
Android in 2019- Foldable phones

Take your pick.

 

[I7guy]

Samsung has been working on this for over 6 years. Bringing out a half baked cobbled together solution with no guarantee of software support and no custom designed apps for the foldable device is not innovation.

Now it’s arguable whether Huawei or Samsung or was more innovative with the Fold but the fact remains that Android OEMs have surpassed Apple in innovation.

iPhone in 2019- Frosted glass
Android in 2019- Foldable phones

Take your pick.

Frosted glass. Those foldable phones are not anything I would buy. Not my use case, too many limitations and no headphone jack on the Samsung and way too expensive for what I gets. In other words technology looking for a use case. Frosted glass it is. We’ll try again in 2020.

Edit: this is invention not innovation. Using Touch ID as innovation as the benchmark, this (foldable displays) doesn’t pass that litmus test. They are invention.

 

[LordVic]

I missed on first read of the original article and now want to put a few more thoughts in.

This Fast company is a joke. This listing is utterly laughable. This has NOTHING, and i literally mean NOTHING to do with technological innovation.

I repeat, this listing is NOT related to technological innovation.


This list is almost entirely populated based on business innovation and business success. For example, Disney is near the top of the list for creating their own streaming service. That i itself is not innovative. The article then lists the business success and turning the streaming industry on its head by being a player in it. Again, none of this is technological innovatin, and arguably, nothing to do with innovation at all.

This article and the post they made should be "most business progressive companies". Using the word "Innovative" for this is a buzzword to grab attention.

But if you swap out "innovative" from the title and put in "top disruptive companies" these would make more sense.

 

[Radon87000]

Frosted glass. Those foldable phones are not anything I would buy. Not my use case, too many limitations and no headphone jack on the Samsung and way too expensive for what I gets. In other words technology looking for a use case. Frosted glass it is. We’ll try again in 2020.

Edit: this is invention not innovation. Using Touch ID as innovation as the benchmark, this (foldable displays) doesn’t pass that litmus test. They are invention.

Seems the cofounder of Apple disagrees

https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/26/steve-wozniak-folding-iphone/

"Bu they [Apple] are not the leader in things like the folding phone and that worries me because I really do want a folding phone. You know, it’s one of those new technologies that does catch my attention."

 

[I7guy]

Seems the cofounder of Apple disagrees

https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/26/steve-wozniak-folding-iphone/

"Bu they [Apple] are not the leader in things like the folding phone and that worries me because I really do want a folding phone. You know, it’s one of those new technologies that does catch my attention."

Let him disagree. One opinion is as good, or bad, as the next.

 

[Radon87000]

Let him disagree. One opinion is as good, or bad, as the next.

His opinion carries more weight being a co-founder. Apple is going to end up eventually copying this, just like they did with OLED which is going to reinforce Android being superior to Apple

 

[I7guy]

His opinion carries more weight being a co-founder. Apple is going to end up eventually copying this, just like they did with OLED which is going to reinforce Android being superior to Apple

His opinion can carry as much weight with you as you want. It carries no weight with me on this topic.

With apple laughing all the way to the bank, android can be superior.

 

[DaveN]

LoL
Copied is a strong word but I don't know what Android site ever claimed Gestures in Android P is an "Android innovation"(or even honesty liked the way Google implemented the gestures interface in P)
Now the question is, will you admit you grossly exaggerated and you don't have any plausible examples? I honestly doubt it.

That is Tech Chrunch's take on it. I doubt you will ever admit you are wrong even when faced with the evidence.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/08/android-blatantly-copies-the-iphone-x-navigation-gestures/

 

[ldandp0]

His opinion can carry as much weight with you as you want. It carries no weight with me on this topic.

With apple laughing all the way to the bank, android can be superior.

Your opinion carries no weight when it just defends or agrees with every Apple decision. Your opinion could be just as easily spit out from a simply programmed bot.

 

[ROGmaster]

That is Tech Chrunch's take on it. I doubt you will ever admit you are wrong even when faced with the evidence.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/08/android-blatantly-copies-the-iphone-x-navigation-gestures/

LoL, you posted the wrong article.
And let me refresh you memory.
You claimed that:

I see a lot of hypocrisy on the Android sites claiming Android innovation when it is copying Apple

The article you posted actually proves YOU ARE WRONG

Oh and Techcrunch is not even an "Android site", it's a general tech news oriented site and it doesn't prove absolutely anything in that article.
It's funny that this is the best you could find.

So I'm still waiting for real evidence from you.

 

[DaveN]

LoL, you posted the wrong article.
And let me refresh you memory.
You claimed that:

The article you posted actually proves YOU ARE WRONG

Oh and Techcrunch is not even an "Android site", it's a general tech news oriented site and it doesn't prove absolutely anything in that article.
It's funny that this is the best you could find.

So I'm still waiting for real evidence from you.

You asked for an example of where Android copped Apple.

Like for example?

I provided the example of Android copying iOS gestures. You replied that you thought that was a stretch...

That is Tech Chrunch's take on it. I doubt you will ever admit you are wrong even when faced with the evidence.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/08/android-blatantly-copies-the-iphone-x-navigation-gestures/

I provided an unbiased article making the case on how blatant the copying was.

LoL
Copied is a strong word but I don't know what Android site ever claimed Gestures in Android P is an "Android innovation"(or even honesty liked the way Google implemented the gestures interface in P)
Now the question is, will you admit you grossly exaggerated and you don't have any plausible examples? I honestly doubt it.

I provided an unbiased article making the case on how blatant the copying was. Read the comments from Fandroids like you to see your delusions en masse. Deny, deny, deny. You will keep up with your denial even when presented with the facts. There is no point in me wasting more of my time 'debating' with someone who won't ever admit they are wrong even when faced with the evidence.

 

[RobertMartens]

We need to look at them as competitors not as minions.

Well, they purged the educated and talented part of their population during the "cultural revolution". But new talented and motivated people grew up. They work hard, concentrated and well guided.

It is only a question of time when a well guided population of 1 000 000 000 will be superior to other nations being arrogant and not willing to work together.
If you are outnumbered by 4:1, sanctions will not work as they work on smaller nations.

Let them do the work, I'll meet you at the pool

BTW China is at 1,42 Billion. Your rounding error is bigger than the population of the US