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Apple Fights Proposed Right to Repair Legislation With Warnings of Consumer Harm

Quu said:
Ridiculous. This right to repair law isn't just about consumers being able to repair their own products it's about repair shops that don't want to be affiliated with Apple being able to obtain parts to do repairs on the behalf of consumers.

And I want to also add, I changed the battery in my own MacBook Pro 15" - The kind that is glued in. Really wasn't that difficult, consumers aren't as thick as Apple wishes they were.
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It's a great point---Apple doesn't want any competition from independent repair shops. I think a lot of it is also because Apple doesn't trust indy shops to do the job right with the right parts and think it will somehow diminish its brand. Pretty arrogant.
 
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kwikdeth said:
when this article is posted immediately after the article headlining a 30% YOY decline in iPhone sales, its pretty easy to understand the motivation behind Apple's actions in this regard.
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Apple didn’t report a 30% decline in iPhone sales.
 
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Quu said:
Ridiculous. This right to repair law isn't just about consumers being able to repair their own products it's about repair shops that don't want to be affiliated with Apple being able to obtain parts to do repairs on the behalf of consumers.

And I want to also add, I changed the battery in my own MacBook Pro 15" - The kind that is glued in. Really wasn't that difficult, consumers aren't as thick as Apple wishes they were.
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Same, I also had to replace my Macbook Pro 13" 2015 badly swollen battery. I originally tried to get it serviced from Apple's authorized repair center, but I was only given following choices; either replace the entire top case for nearly 500€ or just buy a new laptop. In the end I decided to use an unauthorized repair service which was able to replace the battery for 160€ that works even better than the original one ever did.
 
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asdavis10 said:
iPhone Right To Repair Edition will be 1 inch thick with standard Phillips screws. And I'd be ok with it. Just make the non-repair model sleek and thin like I like it.
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This is exactly right. Showing my age a bit - but I’ve lived through the days of the brick handsets (and bag phones for that matter). We don’t need things to go back to fat, heavy, and ugly - just so some 0.00005% of iPhone owners can replace their “insert one of not too many actual upgradable or reparable parts”.

Or any other Apple product for that matter. Or Surface. Or any of them.

If you want to tinker and “repair” yourself, build a PC or Hackintosh in an accessible case. The idea of portable is small, lightweight, and sealed.

And, I am one of those tinkerers. Or, at least I was up until not too many years ago.
 
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It's about choice. Feel free to give me the means to effect repairs if I choose to do so. Just make sure there is clarity around warranty penalties if my repair fails or I kill myself - in which case warranty might not be an issue but a lawsuit from those remaining after my demise might be.
 
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I think the bigger problem is in ethical disposal of serviced parts, especially batteries.

Right-to-repair will also only increase price, since Apple won’t receive serviced parts back to recycle.

It’s a lose-lose. Apple certainly wouldn’t lower any prices on any replacement parts, and would likely charge a premium for toolkits and materials such as adhesives, fresh screws, and literature, not to mention voiding the warranty due to ESD safety issues and unknown variables that would affect manufacturer warrantability.

The only thing that would be a positive impact would be that folks would not have to walk into an Apple store, should they live far from one.
 
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All of their CRT Macs could easily kill you, but they were easy to repair, which I can attest to, being a former certified technician. Apple has made design decisions that make even their desktops unfriendly to upgrade, let alone repair, and they’ve been doing this for about a decade.
 
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I’m opposed to right to repair, but using consumer harm from batteries is a poor excuse. There are many other ways consumers can be harmed by this. Im not sure why Apple would focus on this example (unless it’s one of many, and it was picked because it makes Apple look bad).
 
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This is a ridiculous defense. It's not about consumers right to repair for THEMSELVES, but for there to be COMPETITION on the Apple products repair market. The more stuff that's easy to repair for everyone (including apple), the more transparent and easy it will to get fixed, and thus prices on their AppleCare product will have to be lowered.

Retaining sole monopoly on repairing your own products, grants you the power to charge anything you want for it. I'm not saying Apple is expensive with repairs, but I am saying that the market is being kept from adjusting that price organically. And that's the crux of the lawsuit.
 
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Two questions.

1. Does this right to self repair only scoped for iPhones or also other electronics?

2. Is there evidence of who does better repairs? Apple vs Certified Repair shops.
 
If its too dangerous to repair you own laptop, then its way way way too dangerous to drive a car.

How many people are harmed doing laptop repairs, now how many killed and maimed in car accidents.

Apple should remove ALL car parking around its buildings to make sure its staff are safe.
 
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Apple devices are notoriously hard to repair given the small, proprietary components and large amounts of adhesive, with repair site iFixit giving Apple products almost universally low repair scores.
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Sure some Apple devices are difficult but iPhones are probably the easiest flagship phones to work on. Also, plenty of people shouldn’t work on their own devices, but others are quite capable of doing the work on their own. Maybe even more qualified than people in the business.
 
They are so magnanimous......Look at them watching out for all of us so we don't hurt ourselves :rolleyes:

Apple is fighting Right to Repair initiatives in California by telling lawmakers that consumers could hurt themselves attempting to repair their own devices, reports Motherboard.
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Let's simplify, I own it, I repair it or have someone of my choosing to repair it. Apple has no say in the matter, period! Ever had Apple tell you they no longer repair your Apple Product even if the repair is simple and you are willing to pay?
My first Apple, a ][, came with a schematic and a print out of the machine language code. People were encouraged to adapt their machines. A lot of innovation occurred because professionals could modify their machines. Today's Apple should be ashamed. It has fallen far from the tree. What would Woz say?
 
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