Is in-app purchase happening in Apple’s store? I would argue once you’ve downloaded an app from the app store it’s no longer part of Apple’s store. Certainly not if additional functionality unlocked has nothing to do with Apple.
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Apple Files Appeal in Epic Games Lawsuit, Asks to Delay App Store Changes
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If Apple ever says they will take 30% of transactions that happen in a browser there will be government regulation so fast it will make Tim Cook’s head spin.
Are you still in Apple’s shop when you do an in-app purchase? If I download a game to my iPhone and then pay to get additional coins what did Apple have to do with that? Nothing. But they get 30% because they only allow their payment option which they take a cut of. It’s pretty clear Apple execs decided ’free’ apps with micro transactions is a better business model than every app costing something to the end user.
In exchange for Apple providing a nearly $0 barrier to entry to get an app out to potentially millions of paying of customers, they charge a back-end commission. Would it be a better system if Apple front-loaded the cost. Or should government abolish a successful business after 13 years, that has served the ios community very well.
If it's the Netflix app it's Netfliux using Apples IP to get that movie to your phone.
It's a genius move that benefits both developer and apple. Developer doesn't have to pay but a mere pittance to make millions of dollars.
Yes and no. The consumers have spoken. Windows is dead and Linux is niche. Government should stay the heck out of this.
False. The are enabling people to be more efficient. Most people could survive with a flip phone. If your claim is smartphones are essential, then you can claim they should be regulated.
Agreed.
Even my old flip phone had a navigation app, so yeah, one could consider that apps can be installed on every phone. Of course there is that sophistication that a smartphone truly brings. But who is the government to regulate sophistication?
So the $99 seems like a bargain.
It's the $99 that's the bargain and that is what the commission is all about, imo.
Apple is not forced to do business in any one country. Just like developers, Apple is free to leave if they don’t like the terms.
One of the main reasons I like the Apple eco-system and its Apple Pay service is this: if I subscribe to an apps service, Apple makes it easy for me to review any subscriptions and easily unsubscribe from any services I don’t use anymore.
Now I wonder, will that all be unavailable with other payment providers and external payment options? Other providers and app developers I suspect will want to make it as difficult and convoluted as possible for customers to unsubscribe or cancel a service.
Now I wonder, will that all be unavailable with other payment providers and external payment options? Other providers and app developers I suspect will want to make it as difficult and convoluted as possible for customers to unsubscribe or cancel a service.
That you believe Apple really cares for you is..... astounding.
Correct and Apple should leave a country if the business climate is unfavorable, just like a developer should leave the ios app store if the ecosystem is unfavorable to them. I wonder what the statistics are of developers leaving the ios app store?
The difference is that the devs opt-ed in to the ios app store and agreed to abide by the TOS. Apple started doing business in a country with a set of laws in place and now these laws are changing, while the ios app store has had very little overall change in 13 year.
So the quoted post is really a false equivalency.
That you believe they don't is....astounding as well.
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In many other countries tax is inclusive at the displayed retail price. For example if the price for something you want to buy is $899. Then that’s the price $899. You don’t go the the checkout and pay additional taxes. You pay $899 and that’s it. The taxes are wrapped into the price of the goods or services you are going to buy and taxes have to be advertised as inclusive.
Sales tax can be a perception.
If you pay at the checkout it appears you are being ripped off and that could cause the seller to lose the sale. Depending what the product is and how much the taxes are of course. But it does make you think twice about buying the product or not sometimes.
If you see the retail price and sales tax is inclusive then you really don’t even notice and you’ve already made your buying decision right there before you even get to the checkout.
They are going to fight the fight.
Have you seem his picture? The guy is buff, he’s in it for another 10 years at least.
They probably do, hence my comment to fight the fight.
That is huge, took the wind out of the sails of many MR members who were touting Apple as a monopoly.
Must be the truth? Correct?
Are you familiar with the term attack surface?
When I said “that’s what we’re seeing”, I was talking broadly about all the cases against Apple happening in many different places, not just the Epic case here in the US.
How many blames Apple if they get scammed or get their info stolen on their MacBook? Today the mobile phone is a computer, and there are many reason for not just being able to switch platform. Plus the fact that the customers own the device, don’t they?
It used to be, if something is free then you are the product. But with Apple you pay to become the product. The reason Apple dont want to open up the platform is because they Will then loose this valuable product (the ability to charge for getting access to iOS users).
Um, Epic sued Apple, not vice versa.
The laws have not changed. What law has changed at this point? The existing laws are being enforced. There’s a difference. When the smartphone App Stores first came out and allowed anyone to create software on them, it was new. It makes sense that government would take a very light touch approach for two reasons. First, in an immature market there’s no powerful entities needing to be reigned in. Basically there’s nothing for government to even do yet if nobody has established significant market power. Who was going to win the smartphone wars was still in flux. When the App Store came out Apple, Palm, Google, MS, and RIM all could’ve come out on top. Second, the market was very small and not worth taking a heavy look at anyway. Devs were still almost wholly focused on traditional computing early on. These days two competitors have now knocked the rest of the competition out of the market and deserve scrutiny in a way they did not before.
Devs who want to actually make money have been forced to choose between opting in to iOS or not existing. That’s not a real choice. Just because you can’t see that doesn’t mean governments do not.
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Well that works for spotify and some other big names, far randym app of the day, maybe not so much
If that's really the case Apple will have an opportunity to defend itself in a fair trial? Correct?
Incorrect. The consumers have knocked out the competition. Not the big players. Did Apple knock out Microsoft? Successful businesses shouldn't be regulated due to success unless they were engaging in illegal practices. At least in the US the app store withstood a legal challenge of not being a monopoly.
False equivalency. Choosing to go into a competitive market that may be more lucrative than another market is a choice. It's always a choice. You just can't see it. And if Apple gets the chance to defend itself in a fair trial, just like the US, my guess is they will prevail.