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Allow me to translate for Rodimus Prime; Windows 7 is proof that you can, in fact, polish a turd.

You certainly can. ;)

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Tell you the truth in less than the one year after Vista came out most of the problems were fixed. A vast majority of vista "problems" were 3rd party software/ driver related.

Another problem that Vista faced is that its resource requirements
were a bit high for the times.

Windows 7 is coming out at a time when a dual-core 64-bit CPU with
4 GiB of RAM and 256 GiB of VRAM is a mid-range to lower-mid-range
system.

(My two Win7 desktops - the 12 GiB one shows 10.2 GiB in use, 202 MiB free,
the other 8 GiB one shows 1.7 GiB in use, 111 MiB free.)
 
You know...if that was blue...with a stylized Windows flag...

Don't talk to spirits children. You'll be talking to the devil himself.

For all you japanese people

私は不名誉を意味しないo

Did I say that right? I haven't taken Japanese in ages.
 

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In what episode was each step of the following demonstrated?

1. A method of controlling an electronic device with a touch-sensitive display, comprising: detecting contact with the touch-sensitive display while the device is in auser-interface lock state; moving an unlock image along a predefined displayed path on the touch-sensitive display in accordance with the contact, wherein the unlock image is a graphical, interactive user-interface object with which a user interacts inorder to unlock the device; transitioning the device to a user-interface unlock state if the detected contact corresponds to a predefined gesture; and maintaining the device in the user-interface lock state if the detected contact does not correspondto the predefined gesture.

I was about to say that I remember a system where you signed your name, but that doesn't match the "predefined displayed path".

Then it hit me that I've seen (and might even have coded) touch unlocks where you rotated and aligned concentric combination dials shown on the screen. That sounds a little bit like the above, except in a circular path. (Have to find some notes. It would've been almost twenty years ago.)

Pretty sure I've seen such a thing in a movie as well. Anyone remember something similar? Maybe in a Mission Impossible, Laura Croft, ST-TNG, or other film?

Btw, haven't looked at the patent yet, but if it requires the "predefined displayed path", HTC doesn't display that on their WM unlock sliders. They just say "slide left or right to unlock".
 
I don't recall any specific episode off the top of my head, but I swear I've seen unlock sequences on more than one occasion where a button (GUI element) was dragged across a screen to enable the screen.
For the most part, Star Trek movies and serials have illustrated touch interfaces but not gestures. The one exception that I remember is that one of the movies used two fingers running along a series of switches to "energize" a transporter.
 
I was about to say that I remember a system where you signed your name, but that doesn't match the "predefined displayed path".

Then it hit me that I've seen (and might even have coded) touch unlocks where you rotated and aligned concentric combination dials shown on the screen. That sounds a little bit like the above, except in a circular path. (Have to find some notes. It would've been almost twenty years ago.)

Pretty sure I've seen such a thing in a movie as well. Anyone remember something similar? Maybe in a Mission Impossible, Laura Croft, ST-TNG, or other film?

Btw, haven't looked at the patent yet, but if it requires the "predefined displayed path", HTC doesn't display that on their WM unlock sliders. They just say "slide left or right to unlock".

Note sure if rotating virtual dials would count, but probably not since the path doesn't matter. (In other words, I can rotate a bit, take my hand off the screen, rotate some more, rotate a bit in the opposite direction, and finally rotate back the right way, and unlock would work in your example).

Does HTC display an object moving along with the gesture?
 
"We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."

Said the man who stole so many original ideas himself. Some of the most famous examples:

Xerox Star (including the mouse) -> Macintosh [$1 Million in pre-IPO shares authorized license to use the GUI and Mouse]
Whatever other mp3 player/Walkman -> iPod [Innovation is defined by taking commonly used products and evolving them.]
Slate/Tablet PC -> iPad [And? Seriously? Again should we cite Compaq versus IBM in the original BIOS deal?]
SmallTalk -> Objective-C [Brad Cox is the creator/father of ObjC. NeXT bought the rights to ObjC to merge the StepStone Runtime with the NeXT Runtime of ObjC. SmallTalk everything is an Object is not ObjC]
BSD Unix -> NeXTstep [BSD 4.3 from NeXT is a modified version of BSD 4.3 via the BSD License. NeXT and Apple provided and continue to provide advances to BSD today in the form of Darwin that adds back into FreeBSD]

And most of the stuff in the iPhone has been around since long before the iPhone. Apple added a pen-less touch interface to the mix, but they didn't invent touch interfaces either.

We have a saying in Germany: "Wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Steinen werfen." (Roughly translated: Who sits in a glass house shouldn't throw stones.)

NeXT Distributed Object System is the Father to modern Distributed Object Systems deployed today.

NeXT Portable Distributed Objects and NetInfo have both been copied up one side and down the next.

NeXT Display Postscript co-developed with Adobe was then rewritten to Display PDF solely written by NeXT [now Apple Engineers].

The Quartz Engine everyone wants Apple to open source is around 10 million lines of innovative code.

People want to have it for free.


NeXT Enterprise Object Frameworks were copied up one side and down the other by the entire Java and .NET industries.

Java is the direct descendant of Objective-C wrapped in C++ syntax and a sprinkle from C++ methodologies while extending forward with some of it's own innovations.

All borrow from C and Smalltalk. Smalltalk borrows from Simula67.

Again. What about your post is impressive?

Apple continues to evolved Objective-C with 2.0 and more to come, and funds the LLVM Virtual Machine project which is hot on the heals of GCC's latest revision because they got tired of all the politics with GCC and the time to get ObjC changes into the mix, not to mention the creator of the LLVM project even offered his vision to GCC and Redhat who rebuked his view.

Apple funds the LLVM and gives it back to the World. The same for CUPS which is in every operating system now, built-in to all Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD, OpenSolaris etc., and I'd imagine it would be in Windows if they want to add it seeing as it's jointly licensed.

Apple absorbed any royalty for IEEE1394 and opened it up.

The amount of projects Apple contributes back to the BSD/FOSS communities is highly impressive and we all benefit from these innovations, freely.

And you think Apple is some maggot taking from the BSD/FOSS communities?

Get real.

Tell that BSD knock to the creator and former head of FreeBSD now at Apple. That relationship is still evolving between the communities.

FreeBSD is damn thankful Apple pushed UNIX and a certified UNIX 03 back into the limelight for the general consumer.

No other company in the history of computing has pulled that off.
 
I found Apple press release interesting. First time they haven't used their standard closing paragraph:

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone.

They used this:

Apple reinvented the mobile phone in 2007 with its revolutionary iPhone®, and did it again in 2008 with its pioneering App Store, which now offers more than 150,000 mobile applications in over 90 countries. Over 40 million iPhones have been sold worldwide.​
 
Couldn't half of these patents be also applied to any one using Android? Maybe they are going after the smallest significant company that OS?
 
Good. Here we go.

"We've patented the hell out of this thing"

Finally, Apple wakes up and takes action.
Did you even look at some of the patents? One of them was a patent on unlocking a touchscreen.... That's like patenting a door lock and key.....
 
Apple has good customer service for their hardware for the most part. Not sure you can blame MS if Dell doesn't want to service a machine. Although I've never had issues with Dell either so.

Where Apple does fail is how it treats developers. Someone gets a refund on your app and Apple pays them in full, yet you're still on the hook for the 30%. I think that's crap, but even if you think it's okay, Apple should at minimum forward you the questions the customer answered in order to get the refund. As it stands the developer has no way to know WHY the customer wanted and finally received a refund.

I don't think LTD understands the difference...you're better off just dropping it. :eek:

Should we tell him Dell and Macs are both made in China?
 
More likely, it's the first salvo in what eventually becomes a cross-licensing deal.

Completely agree. HTC patent 7,508,412 (filed May 4, 2005; granted March 24, 2009) is video conferencing on a portable electronic device. I'm guessing Apple really wants that capability, and is using the lawsuit against HTC to get it.
 
There are many patents on locks and keys. What's your point?
What's your point? Apple's patent is closer to patenting the whole idea of a lock and key, not a specific type or function of a lock and key. Either way, in my opinion it is ridiculously stupid and unfair to patent a form of security.
 
What's your point? Apple's patent is closer to patenting the whole idea of a lock and key, not a specific type or function of a lock and key. Either way, in my opinion it is ridiculously stupid and unfair to patent a form of security.

you can always use a Dell or an HP :)
 
They are going after Palm, extra hard. Jobs has a hard on for Rubinstein.

Here's a little patent law fun fact for you - if Apple infringes something that is a small part of the iPhone, and Palm or HTC infringes something that is a major part of their phones, when the dust settles Apple walks away with a giant pot of money for past infringement, and the inevitable cross-licensing agreement results in money flowing toward, not away, from Apple. They are doubtless taking this calculus into account.

Except the fact that whole iPhone homescreen is infringement of Palm graphic grid patent. Can't get any more major than that.
 
Interesting. You know, I've been wondering...don't they have parades that would let you get your attention fix much more adequately? Why short-change yourself by just being an anti-Apple forum troll on a Mac website?

Choice, I can chose to be wherever I want because, you know, if I use Linux at home, or Windows, or OS X, or if I have an iPhone or an Android device, it doesn't define as a person.

I came here because I wanted to get a macbook and just wanted to check out some apple related websites. At first, I would get kinda pissed off at anti-anything-not-from-apple because most times it just FUD being spread around. I stay around because I just like being informed.

Then I realized you make a good point. When I'm brand/name neutral sites, you can see this **** going on from both sides. It's like monkeys throwing **** at each other.

I for one, just spend too much time and too much different sites, blogs, forums. Thankfully I'm able to maintain a rational and objective opinion about things, in most cases. I also like to have fun, I make fun of MS users, I make fun of FOSS advocates, I make fun of Apple users.

As you can see, **** like this is completely meaningless, especially on a forum on the internet. I've learned to simply laugh at or ignore comments from certain members.

Back on topic; this thread? This thread if ****ing hilarious (it would've been a boring day at work if it wasn't for this). Out of the 700+ comments, there are probably 20 or so with actually useful information.
 
Good. Here we go.

"We've patented the hell out of this thing"

Finally, Apple wakes up and takes action.

You really are quite dangerous. I'm not being a jaded comic, but in all sincerity think you have lost it in your ability to stay in the realm of logic.
 

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What's your point? Apple's patent is closer to patenting the whole idea of a lock and key, not a specific type or function of a lock and key. Either way, in my opinion it is ridiculously stupid and unfair to patent a form of security.

The first guy to invent lock and key deserved a patent. The next guy to improve on it deserved a patent. The first guy to invent slide-to-unlock deserved a patent.

That's my point. If you think all this is so obvious, go file a patent on all your brilliant ideas and you, too, can be a patent troll. Or, more likely, you'll learn that everything seems obvious in retrospect.
 
Except the fact that whole iPhone homescreen is infringement of Palm graphic grid patent. Can't get any more major than that.

1) in two seconds apple can change to a completely different springboard visual presentation

2) what graphic grid patent? What's the patent number?
 
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