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Apple Files Lawsuit Against HTC Over Alleged iPhone Patent Infringement
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Android has Apple shaking!
Android will walk all over Apple and has them shaking in their boots!
So, now let us start the M$ tactics, beat them down with worthless lawsuits, etc, etc...
Apple get a Life! Android is free, Multi Touch is free, Android programs are mostly FREE!!
Get it, FREE! Open SOURCE!!!
I spent over $300 on iPhone apps, now I have the same apps for FREE on Android and the Droid!
APPLE WAKE UP!!!
Android will walk all over Apple and has them shaking in their boots!
So, now let us start the M$ tactics, beat them down with worthless lawsuits, etc, etc...
Apple get a Life! Android is free, Multi Touch is free, Android programs are mostly FREE!!
Get it, FREE! Open SOURCE!!!
I spent over $300 on iPhone apps, now I have the same apps for FREE on Android and the Droid!
APPLE WAKE UP!!!
And let's not pretend that you know anything about patents and patent law. The system actually works pretty well given the complexity (some questionable patents, i.e. gene ownership aside). Please understand that patents stimulate creativity, and that all patents expire, opening the technology to others.
Its times like these that I really wish Apple would somehow be put out of business for the straight out mean spirited, nasty, dishonest business practices that they follow.
Don't get me wrong, there are things I love about Apple. I find it to be a completely fascinating company, with an intriguing history. I think that they do a great job of coming up with new and innovative ideas, and I think that they (by and large) make quality products which I would trust to be reliable over most of their competitors.
At the same time, they do things that drive me crazy. The "Mac guy vs. PC guy" ads get my blood boiling because of how mean spirited they come across - I just think its below any company to market in the spirit that those ads come across sometimes. They also drive me crazy for how blatantly misleading and/or dishonest that they can be. And what makes it worse is that I know they can make al together great ads, like the "New Child" MacBook Air one. Heck, they could even do "anti-PC" ads, but with more honesty and less mean spiritedness.
Then there's the company's long history of borrowing others' ideas and then complaining about or suing them for patent or copyright infringment. The thing is, like I said, Apple is innovative. The problem is that they don't want anyone to think that any other company might happen to innovate now and then, too. So, for example, they talk about Microsoft stealing all of their ideas for Windows, when anyone who's paid close enough attention knows that its a lot closer to this:
1. Apple devises (or acquires, or "borrows" X)
2. Microsoft creates something similar to X with its own twist on it
3. Apple takes Microsoft's twist and implements it, adding some newer twists
4. Microsoft takes Apple's latest thing and adds its own new twist
etc.
etc.
This is how progress happens! Ford comes up with the model T, then some other company improves it, so to keep up, Ford improves upon that comnpany's design, and so on. It's why we have cell phones and computers and all the stuff we have in the first place.
Until, of course, Apple sues Microsoft for patent infringement or Steve Jobs makes a joke about it at the WWDC, when all the while Apple's been benefiting from - and "borrowing" - the various twists and innovations Microsoft has been making on the idea over the months/years.
There's a saying "nobody knows how to make a pencil." What it means is that there's no one person that knows everything one needs to in order to make a pencil. People need to know how to grow trees, how to cut them down, how to cut them up, how to get graphite, how to make it into rods, how to get the metal for the end of the pencil, how to form that into sheets, how to take those sheets and make them into little ends, how to make rubber, how to make all the stuff that you use to make rubber, how to put the pencil together, how to make the paint for it, etc. etc. etc.
Apple is what it is today because of Xerox, and Microsoft, and Intel, and Motorola, and Nokia and Kodak and all the other companies that have contributed to their ideas. I understand their right to have patents and to enforce those, but there are limits where it just gets silly or sniveling, and companies can fall into that sometimes. Apple just seems to do it a lot more than other companies.
Don't get me wrong, there are things I love about Apple. I find it to be a completely fascinating company, with an intriguing history. I think that they do a great job of coming up with new and innovative ideas, and I think that they (by and large) make quality products which I would trust to be reliable over most of their competitors.
At the same time, they do things that drive me crazy. The "Mac guy vs. PC guy" ads get my blood boiling because of how mean spirited they come across - I just think its below any company to market in the spirit that those ads come across sometimes. They also drive me crazy for how blatantly misleading and/or dishonest that they can be. And what makes it worse is that I know they can make al together great ads, like the "New Child" MacBook Air one. Heck, they could even do "anti-PC" ads, but with more honesty and less mean spiritedness.
Then there's the company's long history of borrowing others' ideas and then complaining about or suing them for patent or copyright infringment. The thing is, like I said, Apple is innovative. The problem is that they don't want anyone to think that any other company might happen to innovate now and then, too. So, for example, they talk about Microsoft stealing all of their ideas for Windows, when anyone who's paid close enough attention knows that its a lot closer to this:
1. Apple devises (or acquires, or "borrows" X)
2. Microsoft creates something similar to X with its own twist on it
3. Apple takes Microsoft's twist and implements it, adding some newer twists
4. Microsoft takes Apple's latest thing and adds its own new twist
etc.
etc.
This is how progress happens! Ford comes up with the model T, then some other company improves it, so to keep up, Ford improves upon that comnpany's design, and so on. It's why we have cell phones and computers and all the stuff we have in the first place.
Until, of course, Apple sues Microsoft for patent infringement or Steve Jobs makes a joke about it at the WWDC, when all the while Apple's been benefiting from - and "borrowing" - the various twists and innovations Microsoft has been making on the idea over the months/years.
There's a saying "nobody knows how to make a pencil." What it means is that there's no one person that knows everything one needs to in order to make a pencil. People need to know how to grow trees, how to cut them down, how to cut them up, how to get graphite, how to make it into rods, how to get the metal for the end of the pencil, how to form that into sheets, how to take those sheets and make them into little ends, how to make rubber, how to make all the stuff that you use to make rubber, how to put the pencil together, how to make the paint for it, etc. etc. etc.
Apple is what it is today because of Xerox, and Microsoft, and Intel, and Motorola, and Nokia and Kodak and all the other companies that have contributed to their ideas. I understand their right to have patents and to enforce those, but there are limits where it just gets silly or sniveling, and companies can fall into that sometimes. Apple just seems to do it a lot more than other companies.
The original Touchflo was resistive, lacked multi-touch, and was nothing more than a UI shell over windows mobile that let you use your finger instead of a stylus. It was a GUI that piggybacked off of windows mobile, not proprietary touch-sensitive capacitive hardware.
And how well did that work for them? I wouldn't mind seeing the DOJ go after Apple if they keep this crap up.
So we're all patent attorneys here eh?. Everybody sounds like they know all about the laws regarding patents.
I say let the courts settle it but I've been wondering when Apple would start going after some of these companies.
Big.Bold.Moves.
I say let the courts settle it but I've been wondering when Apple would start going after some of these companies.
Big.Bold.Moves.
I'm thinking of patenting the wheel and holding your smartphone in your hands. Anybody in? If accepted, I will make every patent lawyers to use cars with triangle wheels. Oh, I should probably patent those too, so I would charge them for it.
But seriously, these cases must tarnish the image of these companies. I agree with patenting and it is encouraging enterprise. But there must be a limited way of using such a device like a smartphone.
But seriously, these cases must tarnish the image of these companies. I agree with patenting and it is encouraging enterprise. But there must be a limited way of using such a device like a smartphone.
i like how apple is taking a stand, but i still am a huge fan of HTC phones, they are very great quality and have a wide variety of selections, HTC pure is one of the coolest phones i've dwindled with and i wanna know what phone was a rip from the iphone, i personally don't really see it.
Resistive touch screen, no multitouch, and just a touch layer over WinMo. Totally different from the iPhone. Looked and felt like something HTC threw together over a weekend in some basement.
The iPhone, however, oozes the kind if quality and design that equals years of development (going back to 2005, actually.)
Lets also not pretend you know a damn thing about me and what I know, especially based off of a quick comment I made.
Please define your definition of patent troll. To most people they are patent squatters that opportunistically sue. Last time I checked Apple implemented the patent in question.
Sure, I'll concede that. It's just a POS with tech that Apple obsoleted overnight.
Now let's discuss HTC's post-June 2007 knockoffs.
There's also a good chance that multitask is prior art, depending on the past implementations.
The Nexus One is NOT a bad iPhone copy. As a matter of fact the N1 can to everything the iPhone can (somethings better). On top of that it's open sorce with a million features the iphone does not have and a great community. Don't get me wrong, I love apple and their computers (I'm a video editor, I NEED my OSX lol) but I much rather perfer an open platform like Android that gives me fredom with my phone over the iPhone's closed system
True, Nokia only practically invented what we consider a modern GSM cell phone. So they didn't change the landscape, they INVENTED it.
They *might* have, had Google released a successful iPhone-Killer. Didn't happen.
List of failed iPhone-Killers:
LG Voyager, HTC Touch, BlackBerry Bold, Samsung Omnia, Sony Ericsson Xperia, BlackBerry Storm, Palm Pre, BlackBerry Storm 2, Motorola Droid, Google's rebadged HTC Nexus One... Next?!
So how is it ok for apple to use a GSM radio in there phone? Do they just pay the patent holder?
And apple iphone was innovative in 2007... not so much now... everything is surpassing it... This is probaly why apple is mad. They are getting beat at their own game
And apple iphone was innovative in 2007... not so much now... everything is surpassing it... This is probaly why apple is mad. They are getting beat at their own game