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Like it or not Hip Hop has it's fingerprint all over this decade. The influence can even be seen in country music (to the chagrin of a lot of people), pop music, edm, trap, chill, etc. Hip Hop was the easiest avenue to the largest audience, regardless of a person's favorite genre.

It may help to understand that the world doesn't give a **** on what is popular in the us music scene. But the failure to understand this is a general us problem 8(
 
It may help to understand that the world doesn't give a **** on what is popular in the us music scene. But the failure to understand this is a general us problem 8(

Actually, the world DOES give a damn. That's why when we Americans travel to other countries we have more and more of a problem finding and connecting with the true culture of that country. Because everyone wants to copy US culture. It would be nice to be able to walk down a street in a Euopean country and not see a McDonalds.

Then again, "From Europe" seems to be a great sales tool in the US, also.
 
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Pro Tip: if you have no point to make then you don't have to be a condescending ass. Where is your evidence? Just saying.
That's not condescension. Just stating fact. The first line of your evidence says it's bad evidence. Why would you use it to back up your point? Why would I need evidence? You were the one making assertions not me. To your credit, you provided evidence. It just happened to be bad evidence. Another pro tip: When you resort to name calling you only demean yourself.

Doesn't matter what you think - when their music is categorized as X it's X no matter how much you and others would like it to be Y.
Again, unrelated to topic of genres.

That's fine and I didn't say that. But hip hop as the dominant music of the 2010s is not a truth. It has influenced, sure. But it's not the dominant force like it was previously. All music has been influenced by other music.
I can concede Hip Hop's dominance as a matter of opinion. The way you state that it's not, reads like a statement of fact. Based on what, gut feeling?

Nope. I have no clue what most want to hear. I know what I want to hear and that's about it. But it's safe to say most people don't want to hear the current music that is played on Beats 1.
Am I reading this correctly? You don't know what most people want to hear, but, you do know it's not Hip Hop? Safe to say most people don't want to hear what's on Beats1? Based on that same gut feeling?

My opinion on the actual topic of the post is at #30. You're more than welcome to comment on that. We're being pretty pedantic parsing statements in this back and forth.
 
It may help to understand that the world doesn't give a **** on what is popular in the us music scene. But the failure to understand this is a general us problem 8(
My post was about Hip Hop's influence on Beat1 programming. What does that have to do with the world not caring about what's popular in the US music scene? Apologies, but I don't get where you're going.
 
Apple should stick to hardware and OS.

When they go social or music delivery it's ****. Beats 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Apple? What the **** is going on. We don't want Beats or Apple radio station. What don't you get about that? Stop wasting yours and our money on this. Make better hardware and OS. That is all. We don't care about the rest.
 
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Beats 1: Hip-hop/modern pop/euro-crap
Beats 2: American Pop: 80's/90's/00's
Beats 3: Country
Beats 4: Rock/Metal
Beats 5: World Music: J-Pop/K-Pop/etc

Like others have said, Apple would be smart to launch a few dozen Beats stations to take on Sirius.
 
My post was about Hip Hop's influence on Beat1 programming. What does that have to do with the world not caring about what's popular in the US music scene? Apologies, but I don't get where you're going.

Beats1 is targeted at the world so it is a strange decision to base it on us taste.
 
Not a big radio listener but why the hell did we need FOUR more Beats stations?
I looks like they are following the old BBC model of station designation and programming. That is have a highly promoted, center court station (Beats 1) and more specialized, vanguard or nostalgia programming in the secondary channels.

Quite curious to see what the stream ratings for Beats 1 has been so far going into the Holiday Season.
 
"And the Beat(ings) will continue until Morale Improves."

B4 anyone worries, B9 will be patented soon enough and not for "B9" reasons, if the cynics are even remotely right.

Seriously, any 15 year old burger flipping kid that saves $3000 or whatever for "first to file" is instantly branded a "patent troll", yet scores of patents over this and other forms of nonsense and/or commonplace fluff that are put down by massive companies with exponentially more resources are all innocents merely "protecting innovation"?! What next, companies engaging in buyouts aren't interested in the bought company's patents but in the actual products sold?

Clearly the 2011 reform didn't work or was bunk to begin with.
 
pop/chart music used to be good but now is total crap! I believe that apple music will fail to attract a european audience except for kids..

probably the person responsible for the music they promote from IT background and has nothing to do with art

another suggestion is all stations should be available only to mac pro users with updated ram running the beta of le capitan, as it requires enormous processing power to play a radio station
 
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B4 anyone worries, B9 will be patented soon enough and not for "B9" reasons, if the cynics are even remotely right.

Seriously, any 15 year old burger flipping kid that saves $3000 or whatever for "first to file" is instantly branded a "patent troll", yet scores of patents over this and other forms of nonsense and/or commonplace fluff that are put down by massive companies with exponentially more resources are all innocents merely "protecting innovation"?! What next, companies engaging in buyouts aren't interested in the bought company's patents but in the actual products sold?

Clearly the 2011 reform didn't work or was bunk to begin with.

The 2011 "reform" was an attempt to streamline the process and reduce out-of-the blue prior art claims that has broadsided many legitimate R&D efforts.
 
Apple should stick to hardware and OS.

When they go social or music delivery it's ****. Beats 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Apple? What the **** is going on. We don't want Beats or Apple radio station. What don't you get about that? Stop wasting yours and our money on this. Make better hardware and OS. That is all. We don't care about the rest.
Speak for yourself, please. I've liked Apple for 30 years, and I enjoy Beats 1 and Apple Music.

Beats 1: Hip-hop/modern pop/euro-crap
Beats 2: American Pop: 80's/90's/00's
Beats 3: Country
Beats 4: Rock/Metal
Beats 5: World Music: J-Pop/K-Pop/etc

Like others have said, Apple would be smart to launch a few dozen Beats stations to take on Sirius.
Apple Music already has genre-specific stations. The point of a Beats station is that it's hosted and has "shows" that play a variety of different genres, so instead I can picture the next batch of stations serving particular languages.

pop/chart music used to be good but now is total crap!
People have been saying that since the dawn of music.

Hint: Listen to a radio broadcast from 10, 20, 30, 40, etc. years ago, and most of it will be crap too.

probably the person responsible for the music they promote from IT background and has nothing to do with art
Beats 1 is run by high-profile people who have been in the music industry for decades. Heck, the station itself was Trent Reznor's idea.
 
Ugh, I just want to be rid of that stupid Beats one banner in the radio section. (And for Siri to play something from a station I actually listen to when I tell her to play radio)
 
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Speak for yourself, please. I've liked Apple for 30 years, and I enjoy Beats 1 and Apple Music.


Apple Music already has genre-specific stations. The point of a Beats station is that it's hosted and has "shows" that play a variety of different genres, so instead I can picture the next batch of stations serving particular languages.


People have been saying that since the dawn of music.

Hint: Listen to a radio broadcast from 10, 20, 30, 40, etc. years ago, and most of it will be crap too.


Beats 1 is run by high-profile people who have been in the music industry for decades. Heck, the station itself was Trent Reznor's idea.

ok lets compare madonna, prince, depeche mode, dire straits etc. who dominated the charts 30 years ago with justin bieber, taylor swift or one direction.. even disco was more interesting compared to today's junk.
 
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Perhaps Beats 1 was their hip hop endeavor.

Read_my_lips:

This whole notion that Beats 1 is all hip hop is a myth.

It wasn't true six months ago, and it still isn't true.

I can only assume:

a. you have never really listened to Beats 1.

and

b. you are happy to believe anything you read on the internet.
 
More evidence that Beats radio is just BBC radio ripoff. I'd love to know how many people are actually listening now semi regular basis.

What evidence? That they may have a number of stations, each named after a number?

Uncanny!
 
ok lets compare madonna, prince, depeche mode, dire straits etc. who dominated the charts 30 years ago with justin bieber, taylor swift or one direction.. even disco was more interesting compared to today's junk.
http://www.bobborst.com/popculture/top-100-songs-of-the-year/?year=1985

There's plenty of crap in there.

Wham! is #1, for example.

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LOL! I like george michael, I think he's a great voice ;-) anyway, I find the chart of 1985 superior, there should be an explanation..

for sure, george michael was killing it back then. Pop music back then was better imo as well. top40 use to be a very good mix of the very best. I thought I was the only one who referenced old charts vs todays music.

Phil Collins, Sade, Commodores, Huey Lewis and The News, Tears For Fears, Kool and The Gang, Ashford and Simpson....
most of today's pop artists aren't worthy to even be mentioned in the same breath as these greats.
 
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LOL! I like george michael, I think he's a great voice ;-) anyway, I find the chart of 1985 superior, there should be an explanation..
Careless Whispers may be a guilty pleasure of mine, but it's still pop garbage, LOL.

Anyway, tastes are all subjective, and the charts themselves work fundamentally different now. They way they were tabulated was changed sometime in the '90s, and that's why music "appeared" to suck from then on. But Top 40 has always been bottom of the barrel.

Like, people talk about how amazing the '70s were with bands like Led Zeppelin, but people forget that the airwaves were actually filled with fluff like the Bay City Rollers.


Anyway, Beats 1 tends to shy away from Top 40 in general. Its mission is to showcase new music, which you can conveniently find on Apple Music, but they still have to put in familiar stuff to get people to listen. The Top 40 stuff sticks out only because you notice it right away.
 
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