Apple Files Trademarks for Beats 2, 3, 4, and 5 Radio Stations

[BuffaloTF]

Read_my_lips:

This whole notion that Beats 1 is all hip hop is a myth.

It wasn't true six months ago, and it still isn't true.

I can only assume:

a. you have never really listened to Beats 1.

and

b. you are happy to believe anything you read on the internet.

Or C- he turns it on only when Ebro is on.

There's a heavy European influence on the channel as well through Zane and Julia. And generally something for everyone at various points in a week. The breadth they cover is rather impressive with the amount of specialty shows they do.

 

[danwest]

More evidence that Beats radio is just BBC radio ripoff. I'd love to know how many people are actually listening now semi regular basis.

Beats is BBC Radio 1 but with more.... music.

 

[lunarworks]

Or C- he turns it on only when Ebro is on.

There's a heavy European influence on the channel as well through Zane and Julia. And generally something for everyone at various points in a week. The breadth they cover is rather impressive with the amount of specialty shows they do.

The fact that they have St. Vincent, Joshua Homme, Ezra Koenig, and Elton John doing shows really nails home that point.

Also, I would never have discovered FIDLAR without Zane Lowe pushing them. That's about as non-hip-hop as you can get.

But a lot of dorks are upset that they don't have "J-Pop Fun Time Now", so there's that.

 

[iceperson]

Tried to listen to Beats 1 a few times, but it always seems to be some pretentious musician or DJ just trying to show off their collection/knowledge of obscure B sides...

 

[johngordon]

LOL! I like george michael, I think he's a great voice ;-) anyway, I find the chart of 1985 superior, there should be an explanation..

The explanation is probably that you were in your teens in 1985.

As long as there has been pop music, there have been people bemoaning the fact that music isn't as good as it was back in my day.

A lot of pop music has always been pretty lame, but there has always been some great pop music.

A lot of people will be snobbish and dismiss someone like Taylor Swift, but 1989 is a phenomenal pop album.

 

[johngordon]

ok lets compare madonna, prince, depeche mode, dire straits etc. who dominated the charts 30 years ago with justin bieber, taylor swift or one direction.. even disco was more interesting compared to today's junk.

There's really no value in cherry picking some stuff you happen to like from the 80s with some stuff you happen not to like from today.

You might not like Taylor Swift, but 1989 is pretty much universally accepted as a great pop record. Heck, even Beiber's new album is being pretty well received.

Would you like a list of some garbage from the 80s, or do you have your rose tinted spectacles on, and think it was all just magically fantastic?

 

[newlifer]

this link gave me answers check it out:
https://www.quora.com/When-and-why-did-pop-music-become-so-terrible

 

[johngordon]

Not a big radio listener but why the hell did we need FOUR more Beats stations?

One reason might be because there are so many music styles and genres, and people with all sorts of different tastes and preferences, it would be utterly impossible to cover everything and please everyone on a single radio station.

I might be clutching at straws though, who knows.

 

[Dranix]

Read_my_lips:

This whole notion that Beats 1 is all hip hop is a myth.
It wasn't true six months ago, and it still isn't true.
I can only assume:
a. you have never really listened to Beats 1.
and
b. you are happy to believe anything you read on the internet.

It is no myth and each sample shows how right it is.

And first tune-in after weeks and I still get instant rap crap:
Dr Dre - Compton
lot of Dr Dre talking ********

Well so much for no hiphop... And this happens EACH time I try to tune in.

 

[johngordon]

It is no myth and each sample shows how right it is.

And first tune-in after weeks and I still get instant rap crap:
Dr Dre - Compton
lot of Dr Dre talking ********

Well so much for no hiphop... And this happens EACH time I try to tune in.

No-one said there was no hip-hop.

I don't doubt there's a fair amount, but if you really do only ever hear hip hop, then you're wither extremely unlucky, or maybe always happen to tune in when one of the more hip hop orientated shows are on.

But the fact is, the majority of music played on Beats 1 is not hip hop.

Here are some actual figures:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/apples-beats-1-loves-hip-hop-music-2015-8

While hip hop might be the most played, it only accounts for around 25% of tracks played - and that proportion will be a lot less away from the more hip hop orientated shows like Ebro's.

Why people are still trying to peddle this myth, based on their own anecdotal evidence based on little or no actual listening, when its up against actual data, and the views of people who do actually listen to Beats 1 quite a bit, I have no idea.

 

[Dranix]

No-one said there was no hip-hop.

I don't doubt there's a fair amount, but if you really do only ever hear hip hop, then you're wither extremely unlucky, or maybe always happen to tune in when one of the more hip hop orientated shows are on.

But the fact is, the majority of music played on Beats 1 is not hip hop.

Here are some actual figures:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/apples-beats-1-loves-hip-hop-music-2015-8

While hip hop might be the most played, it only accounts for around 25% of tracks played - and that proportion will be a lot less away from the more hip hop orientated shows like Ebro's.

Why people are still trying to peddle this myth, based on their own anecdotal evidence based on little or no actual listening, when its up against actual data, and the views of people who do actually listen to Beats 1 quite a bit, I have no idea.

Well 25% is 25% to much. And the side you linked shows a VERY VERY HEAVY overhead of hiphop followed by strange alternative junk.

 

[lunarworks]

It is no myth and each sample shows how right it is.

And first tune-in after weeks and I still get instant rap crap:
Dr Dre - Compton
lot of Dr Dre talking ********

Well so much for no hiphop... And this happens EACH time I try to tune in.

Check the schedule so you know the best time to tune in then.

 

[Dranix]

I don't live after some insane us schedule. I listen to radio when I have time for it. Do people in the us really live still in this 60ties madness of program schedules?

BTW: What is with that sick am/pm times in the schedule? Are normal times to much asked?

 

[johngordon]

Well 25% is 25% to much. And the side you linked shows a VERY VERY HEAVY overhead of hiphop followed by strange alternative junk.

How on earth can 25% be 25% too much? Now your argument seems to be that they shouldn't play anything of something that you happen not to like, even though IIRC it happens to be the most popular genre on Spotify. Which just takes a special kind of arrogance.

Given that its going to be significantly less than that 25% outwith shows like Ebro's or Dr Dre's, then how difficult can it be to check the schedules so that you know to avoid their shows?

And what even is "strange alternative junk"? The umbrella of 'alternative' will cover a huge range of styles and artists, covering all sorts of genres - anything from Chvrches to MIA to The Japanese House to Grimes to Bring Me the Horizon etc etc Heck, I bet Coldplay fall under the 'alternative' banner.

To dismiss all music labelled for these sorts of purposes as 'alternative' as 'strange junk' is ridiculous.

I just get the impression that a lot of the criticism of Beats 1 comes from people who maybe wished it had been a station playing classic rock from the 60s 70s and 80s. Which is fine if people like that sort of thing - but there is already plenty of that on the radio - I'd far rather some radio that played more new stuff, even if I don't necessarily like a lot of it.

But then I have managed to figure out what shows I do tend to like, and those that I don't. And just don't bother listening to shows I know I am less likely to like.

Crazy idea, I know, but it seems to work for me.

 

[johngordon]

I don't live after some insane us schedule. I listen to radio when I have time for it. Do people in the us really live still in this 60ties madness of program schedules?

BTW: What is with that sick am/pm times in the schedule? Are normal times to much asked?

Apparently its 2015, and you can listen to shows on demand, and not just when they originally air.

 

[Dranix]

Ok checked in again. I can't even name that "music" currently. But it's Drake rapping slowly to some junk ambience sounds. (Drake - Charged Up). What is that?

Edit: Now the 3rd sick Drake song in line. I thought it is supposed to be varied?

Edit2: Wait after 3 songs by Drake we get #4 by Drake and it's again Charged Up?! What ****ed up programing is that?

 

[johngordon]

Ok checked in again. I can't even name that "music" currently. But it's Drake rapping slowly to some junk ambience sounds. (Drake - Charged Up). What is that?

Edit: Now the 3rd sick Drake song in line. I thought it is supposed to be varied?

Edit2: Wait after 3 songs by Drake we get #4 by Drake and it's again Charged Up?! What ****ed up programing is that?

It is varied. The show you caught a bit of is a once a fortnight show with Drake. It's the end of the year, so maybe you happened on a few Drake tracks.

I suppose your research could prove that Beats 1 plays Drake all the time, but it's unlikely.

You didn't say why you thought there should be no hip hop on Beats 1?

 

[Dranix]

Well because I consider hiphop the same as Death Metal: noise, not music. I would prefer not hearing at all if all there was were hiphop. It's for me on the same annoyance level als scratching on a chalk board.

 

[johngordon]

Well because I consider hiphop the same as Death Metal: noise, not music. I would prefer not hearing at all if all there was were hiphop. It's for me on the same annoyance level als scratching on a chalk board.

Well, I don't suppose there is any genre of music that everyone likes.

So it would be pretty difficult to have any radio station only play music that everyone likes.

In which case your expectations are completely unrealistic.

Unless you have such a high opinion of yourself and your taste in music that you think what Beats 1 plays should be dictated by what you happen to like.

I don't really like hip hop either, but I wouldn't expect a radio station to not play hip hop just because I don't like it. Because I realise the world doesn't revolve around me.

Plus, it really doesn't take that much effort to avoid shows that are more likely to play more hip hop.

You could look into that instead of randomly tuning in and switching off if they're playing a song you happen not to like.

 

[Dranix]

Or I could continue with ignoring Beats 1 and listen to good radio instead Like AnimeNfo, Kawaii Radio, M2 80s and Antenne Bayern.

This flood of hiphop has to be an american thing. And most of it sound to depressing, I need uplifting music - hiphop can't provide that, at least for me - But it's hard for me imagining it does for anyone...

 

[69650]

And a Spanish language station. And a Mandarin one.

I think it's more likely they'll simply create a Spanish or Mandarin language version of Beats 1,2,3,etc

 

[Brandhouse]

But we've already got Bananas racing up the stairs, called B1 and B2? http://www.abc.net.au/abcforkids/video/show.htm?show=BANANAS-IN-PYJAMAS

 

[johngordon]

Or I could continue with ignoring Beats 1 and listen to good radio instead Like AnimeNfo, Kawaii Radio, M2 80s and Antenne Bayern.

This flood of hiphop has to be an american thing. And most of it sound to depressing, I need uplifting music - hiphop can't provide that, at least for me - But it's hard for me imagining it does for anyone...

Ignoring Beats 1 is certainly an option.

But, difficult as it seems to be for you to imagine, some people do actually like hip hop. Is it really that hard for you to imagine that some people will have a different taste in music to you?

And still ignoring the fact that its pretty easy to avoid hip hop on Beats 1 anyway. I don't really like hip hop, but still listen to quite a bit on Beats 1.

Out of interest, do you post on forums about other radio stations that you don't happen to like, or is it just Beats 1?

 

[Dranix]

But, difficult as it seems to be for you to imagine, some people do actually like hip hop. Is it really that hard for you to imagine that some people will have a different taste in music to you?

Yes it is very hard for me to imagine hiphop being uplifting for anyone. It sound to depressing for that.

Out of interest, do you post on forums about other radio stations that you don't happen to like, or is it just Beats 1?

Only for Beats 1 - for 2 reasons:

1) Apple tries to force it down my throat each time using iTunes and Music.app.

2) I had high hopes for Beats 1 and all I got was the (imo) worst station I ever had to hear. Nothing at Beats is worldwide. More us centric isn't possible and to be honest - The modern us music scene is real real bad. I don't need this junk but Apple appears to be in the opinion that the world was waiting for it...

 

[johngordon]

Yes it is very hard for me to imagine hiphop being uplifting for anyone. It sound to depressing for that.

Only for Beats 1 - for 2 reasons:

1) Apple tries to force it down my throat each time using iTunes and Music.app.

2) I had high hopes for Beats 1 and all I got was the (imo) worst station I ever had to hear. Nothing at Beats is worldwide. More us centric isn't possible and to be honest - The modern us music scene is real real bad. I don't need this junk but Apple appears to be in the opinion that the world was waiting for it...

Then you misunderstand.

Subjectivity aside, music doesn't have to be uplifting to be considered good or enjoyable. Nor is uplifting music necessarily good.

And again, if you actually look across the board at Beats 1 there is plenty to it besides hip hop or "the modern US music scene".

Just because you repeat yourself over and over doesn't magically make something true.

Given the variety of music played on Beats 1 it is ridiculous to dismiss it in its entirety as junk.

I'm sure there is plenty of music I don't like, but I would never be so self centred and arrogant so as to dismiss everything I don't like as "junk".

And I'd love to know how you are defining "force down my throat"?