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Apple fired the father of the viral YouTuber
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There's no such thing as he "honestly thought" or "it was a misunderstanding." If the father didn't know the rules, he should have asked his employer - in person, phone, or email.
This isn't a simple mistake where he accidentally walked into the wrong washroom in the building. It's an unreleased product and property of Apple.
So I am curios what the working theory about the now fired employee is. Was he dumb? Did he not care about the rules? Did he just want a reason to be fired?
You have to figure hes a relatively intelligent person to be working as an engineer of any capacity at Apple. I see a ton of people pointing blame and stating there is no way he couldn't have understood and etc. So, honestly, what are people's thoughts about why he allowed this?
You have to figure hes a relatively intelligent person to be working as an engineer of any capacity at Apple. I see a ton of people pointing blame and stating there is no way he couldn't have understood and etc. So, honestly, what are people's thoughts about why he allowed this?
Right, so that falls under the "he didn't care" category? People are claiming the rules are cut and dry. I'd say he either didn't care or didn't know, no?
It looks like it's one of those... but how can an engineer at Apple not fully understand the terms of an NDA - especially when he's one of the dudes working on the design and tech specs/internals?
I don’t know him, but I’m sure when the CEO of the company says they are doubling down on security, and the company is famous for secrecy, and the employees of the company say they don’t know what others are working on and can’t talk about it, and other employees say they are upset when their are leaks, and you allow an the filming of an unreleased product with confidential information on the screen, you don’t belong at that company.
Dad: "Hey, you can record but don't show anyone until after November 3 please."
Girl: "Sure dad!" ("Whatever, my friends on the Internet can't wait to see this! Besides, dad is senior manager or something. And who wouldn't want to be in a video on my YouTube channel?")
Lot of really bright people out there that are book smart but not street smart.
That's the thing. I have read there isn;t supposed to be recording on Apple campus anyway. Is that not true?
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I am not even arguing that he belongs there. I am just attempting to start a discussion regarding why he allowed this to even happen. He allowed video (which apparently wasn't ever even allowed to exist) to leak before an NDA and all the while other employees were smiling and having a great time of it. That's not... strange to you?
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I am not sure I buy that this guy was completely oblivious to the rules. But it's about the only plausible answer I can come up with as to why he apparently disregarded them completely.
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True.
And for all we know, those cafeteria employees may have been terminated as well for not reporting violations. “Security is everyone’s job”
Did they fire the Cafe cashier who happily asked “Did you get it?” when dad used Apple Pay on the X. He’s complicit too!
I'm just having a bit of difficulty wrapping my head around what looks to be a complete lack of understanding of rather basic company policy. This doesn't seem to be some ambiguous situation/rule that was broken.
Someone earlier mentioned there is probably more to this. I am inclined to believe that. We may never know what that "more" is though lol.
Not saying that. He may just have thought showing off to his daughter wouldn’t get him caught, or she made some idle promise that she wouldn’t share it to anyone until he said it was ok.lordofthereef said:
I have a lot of empathy for this girl and her dad. It really does suck for them that this largely innocent incident resulted in his termination.
That said, Apple has every right to terminate anyone they want. We’re all well aware of their tight security regime and one assumes employees of the company are far more familiar with it than we are. Out of the hundreds of engineers employed by the iPhone department only one of them let a video of his phone leak. Apple can’t let that stand and they have to send a strong message. Their IP is their business. Protecting it is job #1 next to creating it in the first place.
To me it reads as a tricky situation with no real way to achieve a satisfactory outcome for either party. As the employer Apple did the only practical thing they could. Sever the relationship.
That said, Apple has every right to terminate anyone they want. We’re all well aware of their tight security regime and one assumes employees of the company are far more familiar with it than we are. Out of the hundreds of engineers employed by the iPhone department only one of them let a video of his phone leak. Apple can’t let that stand and they have to send a strong message. Their IP is their business. Protecting it is job #1 next to creating it in the first place.
To me it reads as a tricky situation with no real way to achieve a satisfactory outcome for either party. As the employer Apple did the only practical thing they could. Sever the relationship.
There were not 'a lot' of videos of iPhone X in the wild. There were none.
I am referring to disallowing video recording on the campus, not that hs trusted his daughter not to leak it. The video was clearly done out in the open with plenty of people well aware it was happening.
This is a bit of social engineering at work - act as if you belong, act like it’s ok, and people make certain assumptions. They should challenge things but many don’t for fear of looking stupid or being a jerk.
There are plenty of public photos of Caffe Macs so I don't think recording is prohibited.
But if an employee or sponsored guest does something stupid like video record unreleased Apple hardware or use a parabolic microphone on another table's conversation, they should expect Apple to react.
I still think there is a piece of the puzzle missing. I get where you are coming from but this just seemed far too nonchalant. Maybe I am wrong.
I'm trying not to overdo the almost therapeutic satisfaction I'm feeling 
The old man's fine - he'll find another high paying job.
The daughter.....pretentious & spoilt, comments on walls like a posh princess*, deserves a setback in her life, for perspectives sake .....
*sorry, can't forget that line from the video. It grated....
The old man's fine - he'll find another high paying job.
The daughter.....pretentious & spoilt, comments on walls like a posh princess*, deserves a setback in her life, for perspectives sake
.....*sorry, can't forget that line from the video. It grated....