We’ll never really know. But I’d say if she shot it with her phone, probably more likely to be stopped than a rig. Also less people around at dinner time which is when she went.
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Apple fired the father of the viral YouTuber
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- Video recording a confidential, unreleased product.
- Allowing a non-Apple employee to use a confidential Apple device.
- Confidential device is probably loaded with confidential information.
Even if Apple could gloss over #1, the second and third items are unforgivable. The point of letting an employee use iPhone X is for testing and/or development. It's not for showing off on YouTube.
I have been to the Apple campus. I do not believe there are any restrictions like that. I have personal photos I took there. Even during an executive briefing, no one said anything. Yes you sign an NDA, but it's about the content of the presentation, not the environment.
This firing is more expected under the Steve Jobs era vs TC... but obviously things haven't changed all that much.
Remember the lost iPhone 4? That employee supposedly got to keep his job, and it was a far more serious situation.
This firing is more expected under the Steve Jobs era vs TC... but obviously things haven't changed all that much.
Remember the lost iPhone 4? That employee supposedly got to keep his job, and it was a far more serious situation.
Again, I am simply talking about what must have been going on in the eyes of the Apple employee(s). I am not at all defending their Actions or honestly even taking sides. It just seems bonkers that this happened and if I could I would sit down with the dude and be like, "so... wtf were you thinking".
So far the only theories are "he didn't know" and "he trusted his daughter". None of that really explains why he, and apparently the employee in the cafe, seemed to have absolutely no qualms about video recording.
Campus rules. Not saying people don’t do it, but it is not allowed. It’s the same in a lot of SV office campuses.
Edit: Also last few EBs I’ve had were catered lunches - we were stuck in the 5 IL briefing center. Visiting someone is different.
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Apple's security process and procedures were probably developed because of the iPhone 4 incident.
Not to mention the intent was entirely different.
Apple may have to stop this kind of over secrecy. It's hurting them to some extent. I know really capable engineers who Apple tried to pick up that refused to take a job over at Apple because it was too much for them.
There is probably more here that I don't know about. We've all seen the product. Not sure why this video was such a big deal. I feel like they should've just given him a stern warning. Being too rigid sends the message that Apple is very unforgiving and engineers and other talented people should stay away....lest they have a weak moment and wind up fired for something silly. I can't believe they would let someone take pictures or make videos in the cafeteria if secrecy was a concern.
There is probably more here that I don't know about. We've all seen the product. Not sure why this video was such a big deal. I feel like they should've just given him a stern warning. Being too rigid sends the message that Apple is very unforgiving and engineers and other talented people should stay away....lest they have a weak moment and wind up fired for something silly. I can't believe they would let someone take pictures or make videos in the cafeteria if secrecy was a concern.
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Industry-wide it’s only going to get more strict, not less. And there’s a huge talent pool to choose from.
I wouldn't underestimate the "he trusted his daughter" theory. How many national espionage cases happened because the victim trusted someone close? We don't know the relationship in this case.
As for why no one stopped the recording? I would guess other employees thought the father got special permission. The cafeteria is also a break area, everyone's guard is down. You start recording in the elevator or in work spaces, then you might see a big response.
Is there? Why do they need to hire outside of the US if there is this HUGE talent pool to choose from. You know a competitor is already hiring this guy and he will give up every secret or the secrets will wind up in a competitors hands even if he's not directly giving them secrets. He will say in meetings well the way we solved this problem over at Apple is... XYZ.
I'm an engineer myself and everyday I read articles and see companies saying there's not enough engineers etc etc. So what's the truth.
And I wonder why that comment section was disabled......
The Pops was waaaay too into that lunch...he didnt gaf lmaaaooo
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Bet you Google will snatch him right up
Disagree. I think his daughter has remorse for what happened and her actions are results of her father's termination (Even though he is at fault also). And she also has found the harshness and backlash of social media because of the situation, due to the comments she likely read. But then again, she posted a video for the public to see.
I want to believe that. I truly do. There is a part of me though that sees what she’s doing as attention seeking behavior. I hope I’m wrong about that.
Perhaps. But it might be she Is trying to have damage control for whatever is left of the situation by posting this video. Which would naturally makes sense for what it's worth in her predicament.
I think he will get hired again. His in intent wasn't malicious at all. he made an honest mistake and I think people at other tech companies with children will totally understand. everyone deserves a second chance.
As much as I love Apple products, if I was in that family, I WOULD DESTROY EVERY F****NG APPLE PRODUCT IN MY HOUSE, BOYCOTT, ACTIVELY BUY ALL OF THEIR COMPETITOR'S STUFF, AND VIDEO ALL OF IT AND PUBLICIZE THE HELL OUT OF THIS. But im petty like that lmaooo. The fact that she kept emphasizing they still "supported" apple seemed real political to me. This story aint over. Pretty sure.
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Just like i said, political.
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Just like i said, political.
I don't think Apple plays that game. Nor would most credible companies. This isn't a surprise office birthday party.
Not only would it send the wrong message to employees, it wouldn't make sense from an HR perspective. The employee is lucky if no legal action is taken against him.