Careful, you’ll find yourself with bad boy emails about posting political comments in a non-political section.I mean the main theme as of late seems to be how weak and useless walls actually are so.....![]()
Careful, you’ll find yourself with bad boy emails about posting political comments in a non-political section.I mean the main theme as of late seems to be how weak and useless walls actually are so.....![]()
The kind of analytics that they are collecting about how an app is used is something that is supposed be done during the testing phase of the app development and with permission from the user, not the production version of the app and not without notification and an option to disable that feature.
If you push an app to the App Store, it should be a finished product, not something that you are still trying to figure out how it should be used. If that’s the case, you have a beta product on your hands and testers should be involved, not App Store customers. Just my opinion as a software developer.
Glassbox offers ways to block user private information. It’s the failure of the app developer (in this case, Air Canada), to properly protect the user info.Do we really all think Apple didn’t know about the services that company as big as Glassbox provided?
They must have been aware of the possibilities that Glassbox gave (something similar has been an option with Google Analytics for years), but have let it slide until they have been under heavy scrutiny, especially with the privacy issues they have been having recently.
Unfortunately, I think all of this is a "saving face" in the midst of all the other problems.
Whatever the case is, I’m not at all convinced that Apple has never heard (or saw in action) what Glassbox did with their clients
You clearly aren’t building enterprise software if you think a product is ever “finished”. All software is constant iteration and improvement and these tools help companies do just that. You never just ship it and it’s done. Unless you work somewhere where you only release value to your customers once a year or even less frequent. Where I work we release updates daily. Tools like Glassdoor are a very valuable part of making sure the changes we thought would be great actually are
More importantly, how did Apple miss this in their review? Why is it lately incumbent on journalists to police this kind of stuff?
Careful, you’ll find yourself with bad boy emails about posting political comments in a non-political section.
Careful, you’ll find yourself with bad boy emails about posting political comments in a non-political section.
Consider that the tech has been around for years, and MANY apps have used it, there’s no way that Apple didn’t know about it before.Any reason why Apple waits until the media makes a big deal about it before doing anything about it? Calculator bug, Group FaceTime bug, etc. Come on, Apple. Get it together. I'm starting to feel like everything they do is a PR stunt. Like if this information wasn't released to the public Apple would have just let the apps continue recording all our screens.
It's not about knowing about it, it's about disclosing it to the user. Apple is now requiring a red dot for recording and this to be clear in the privacy policy of the app. As long as it's clear, it's allowed.Consider that the tech has been around for years, and MANY apps have used it, there’s no way that Apple didn’t know about it before.
Yes, but I'm thinking more in the line of the apps that were banned - something that we know is collecting user data for UI purposes. Their rule about logging is so broad, it would seem many apps would fall under this.I haven't thought about this a lot. But...every voice recorder app (including Apple's) puts a microphone symbol at the top of the screen when recording. Locations services does something similar. Ditto when using the phone app.
Have a feeling there are many more.
Do you still believe that reviews can detect any malicious apps?More importantly, how did Apple miss this in their review? Why is it lately incumbent on journalists to police this kind of stuff?
To Glassbox,
With that updated response, I must say, so? Does it matter how you deal with that data? You should NOT have that data in the first place.
Doesn't change the fact that you are recording my screen without my consent.
*Yes you. You are the one providing that service and receiving that data.
Why wasn’t this caught in the review process ?Good for Apple. Really have to appreciate their stance on privacy.
Apparently this wasn’t even hidden but it used a publicly available api and service. So yes this should have been caught if it was relatively easily discovered by a journalist..Do you still believe that reviews can detect any malicious apps?
I’m sure it has nothing to do with keeping tabs on 2 million Apps. It’s only natural for “exploits” and violations to be caught by the many millions of users, versus 20,000 US employees (not counting the 27,000 at stores) Those 20,000 Apple employees aren’t all parsing code. It’s a monumental task that ultimately has to be “crowd sourced” to the user.Why wasn't this discovered during the review process?
Are you saying that the apps should not be aware of user actions? Just ignore the user, right? I do not understand what the fuss is about. Are you concerned someone will know that you pressed a button in some app? Sounds like Apple is just trying to look holier than pope.To Glassbox,
With that updated response, I must say, so? Does it matter how you deal with that data? You should NOT have that data in the first place.
Doesn't change the fact that you are recording my screen without my consent.
*Yes you. You are the one providing that service and receiving that data.
Nice in theory, but in practice that's not how it works. The apps do go through a scrubbing process, but it's up to the app developer to be upfront about the way customer data is used once it's harvested from the phone.AAPL should make it Crystal Clear which Apps Collect NO User Data, & which Apps do.
Hey Cook / Schiller, it's NOT Rocket Science, make App Devs specify it when submitting an app / update.
I.e., make App Devs indicate:
"Collects NO User Data" OR "Collects User Data" ...
& make that prominent in the App Store !!!
NOT Rocket Science, this should have been implemented ten years ago !
And App Devs in violation of their "indication" should be punished, BIG time !
If AAPL had real competition "from another U.S. company," the BS would never been allowed to propagate for such a long time ! ... competition would have cleaned things up fast ! ... and I do NOT mean from an Ad-based company like Google or Facebook ... another who would try to protect Users Privacy.