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Have fun on your Android buddy. They will never eliminate screen recording on androids. never never!
Sorry to tell you but you think just because you use an Apple phone that your privacy is secure. You are being tracked outside of the Apple ecosystem everyday, Google is tied into so many websites and applications, you can't escape it. There was an interesting article on this very subject a few weeks ago where someone tried to completely stop using all of google's eco-system, apps etc. Needless to say it didn't go well.
 
Any reason why Apple waits until the media makes a big deal about it before doing anything about it? Calculator bug, Group FaceTime bug, etc. Come on, Apple. Get it together. I'm starting to feel like everything they do is a PR stunt. Like if this information wasn't released to the public Apple would have just let the apps continue recording all our screens.

Oh give it a rest. Aside from the app devs not properly spilling out things in their TOS, what exactly did Apple have to do with this? Or are you complaining that they didn't find it before it even happened? Minority Report was a movie. If you think that Apple is that bad, there's the door. Go use Android and have fun with THAT.
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That's their job to know since they created a wall garden in their own OS'es, if they can't know how do you suppose for them to have their own App review policy in order to accept/reject the Apps?

What a stupid thing to say. That's like saying Microsoft should be responsible because people write malware sometimes.
 
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You’d have a good point if Apple knew about this before approving the apps. Thousands of apps are submitted every day, some things are going to slip under the cracks.

No one at apple looks at the source code of 3rd party apps for the app approval process.
 
AAPL should make it Crystal Clear which Apps Collect NO User Data, & which Apps do.

Hey Cook / Schiller, it's NOT Rocket Science, make App Devs specify it when submitting an app / update.

I.e., make App Devs indicate:

"Collects NO User Data" OR "Collects User Data" ...

& make that prominent in the App Store !!!

NOT Rocket Science, this should have been implemented ten years ago !

And App Devs in violation of their "indication" should be punished, BIG time !

If AAPL had real competition "from another U.S. company," the BS would never been allowed to propagate for such a long time ! ... competition would have cleaned things up fast ! ... and I do NOT mean from an Ad-based company like Google or Facebook ... another who would try to protect Users Privacy.

Sounds good but reality is not.
Everyone one of those apps listed would have to have collect user data with or with out glassdoor.
They have to collect the data to work. It is hard to create a travel app for example with out. You need a user name password address ect just to use the app.

Your email account falls under the same thing. That reality plus any enterprise level app will by running some crash related library just to get crash data and other metrics. Apple system for delivering crash reporting is awful and provides very little useful information plus you have a less than 10% user base supplying it. That makes it rather useless Fri crash reporting unless you have a massive user base and even then still poor to dig threw it hence most just move to another system.
 
Good job Apple. I would’ve just pulled the apps immediately, but still quick response.

Good job on what? It was TechCrunch who reported the issue, once again. And they “took” immediate action just when the media reported it.

Why didn’t they see that during the review process? Usually they screen for stupid stuffs and gimmicks, like “embracing the notch” or back in the day when apps had to add some shaking effect to somehow “make use of iPhone’s features”.
 
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There should be a pop up like other things that ask for user permission before running. Apple could just modify the API call to check this. It could say “Expedia would like access to record your screen. This means they can see everything you are doing on your device.” I wonder how many people would actually allow that? LOL.

Also, Expedia is doing this? I often book with them. Not anymore! Haven’t used their app though. I usually use the website on my Mac.

Every major airline, retail, travel site, and most websites in general have analytics tracking embedded in the page that captures every action you take on their site. Session replay has been a standard CX - Customer Experience toolset for UX/UI designers/developers for nearly a decade. Google search IBM Tealeaf, Clicktale, hotjar, decible, Adobe Analytics(Omniture), Google Analytics, I could go on. These are all companies/tools that provide the exact same functionality as Glassbox. They’re not literally “recording” your screen, instead they’re tracking every UI event during your session on their site. This includes button clicks, link clicks, form field entry, mouse movements, mouse hover, etc. These events can then be overlaid onto the screens you visited to effectively provide a “recording” or “replay” of your session. This information is used to help everything from driving website design decisions, detecting nefarious users that are trying to hack or exploit a site, customer support to assist when users call after their website visit crashed while trying to book their flight. These are just a few of the benefits analytics data provide. This isn’t an Apple, Android, Windows, Linux, “thing”. It exists across all web platforms and it’s been around for years, most are just now getting a peak behind the curtain.
 
Good job Apple. I would’ve just pulled the apps immediately, but still quick response.

quick response - as apple didnt know for years, hahahaha you made my day
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It shows they aren't 100% committed to privacy as they say, and when ordered otherwise they just follow like any other company or get kicked out from selling in the territory. "Grow up" ;).

you grow up, why should a company with a corporate value set, do business in countries which act against it? thats just not trustworthy at all - if they compromise their code for one country its compromised for ALL of us.

Just a matter of consequence - i know, and that is not to you ... this kind of thinking seems not to exist anymore
 
Oh... I understand now. You are expecting 100% perfection. In other words, Apple should find every single problem, potential exploit, unintended operation/behavior, under all conditions, before an app is approved.

"They must have review guidelines and a team of reviewers for something."

Of course they do. But again, you are expecting 100% perfection. Please tell me where that exists.

Let’s be straight here, these are not gimmick apps from Tom’s bedroom, these are major retailers who have had a web presence for years. If any kind of App was using / needed these types of analytics it would be these and so yea, if this was an issue for Apples privacy policy (it isn’t, but they pretend it is), then yes I would expect Apple to go through them with a fine tooth comb. I guess Apple are fine with you visiting the same websites via Safari with the exact same analytics taking place?
 
Apple knowing about a problem or bug.

The media and the general public making a big deal about a problem or bug.

Let's play Spot the Difference with those two statements.

Point is, why does Apple wait until the media and the general public know about an issue or make a big deal about it before doing anything about it? I didn't say "Why does Apple wait until they find out about a problem before they fix it?"

They must have review guidelines and a team of reviewers for something. If they're not going to know about issues like this until TechCrunch writes an article about it then they need to decide if paying all those reviewers to not catch stuff like this is really worth it.

What about all the things they do catch during review process?
 
More importantly, how did Apple miss this in their review? Why is it lately incumbent on journalists to police this kind of stuff?

They are too busy enforcing their moral code on us (no mature/adult content)... and God forbid any app that allows you to easily access many of the settings options.
 
Therein lies the difference between a wall and fence.
Sure, Apple’s so-called “garden” isn’t perfect—surprise!—whether you want to call it a wall or a fence.

But really, it’s a distinction without a difference. Whether you climb over a fence with a ladder or tunnel under a wall with a shovel, they’re both rather easily defeated.

The checkpoint at the border to their garden—Apple’s app review process—has proven over and over again through the years to be a most effective barrier against nefarious activity.
 
Are you saying that the apps should not be aware of user actions? Just ignore the user, right? I do not understand what the fuss is about. Are you concerned someone will know that you pressed a button in some app? Sounds like Apple is just trying to look holier than pope.

I have Air Canada app installed on my iPhone. If the article is true on how it works, whoever reviewed these recordings would have literally see my credit card and passport details being input into the app. Get it?

You assume people just play games on their phones or what?
Those apps may include information that can screw up your life.
Credit card, banking, flight apps that may includes credit card, travel document, home address.
EVERYTHING that would allow identity theft.

Just Air Canada app alone would have my credit card, home address and travel documents (Passport).
 
Well, of course it is necessary to see what users are doing to improve the usability. But you don't need to spy on millions of them. You just need 3 times 5 user to discover all problems says Jakob Nielsen
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/why-you-only-need-to-test-with-5-users/
So do some prober Usability Testing with a little group and leave us alone with your creepy Glassbox stuff. Everbody will win, perhaps except those Glassbox guys...
 
I have Air Canada app installed on my iPhone. If the article is true on how it works, whoever reviewed these recordings would have literally see my credit card and passport details being input into the app. Get it?

You assume people just play games on their phones or what?
Those apps may include information that can screw up your life.
Credit card, banking, flight apps that may includes credit card, travel document, home address.
EVERYTHING that would allow identity theft.

Just Air Canada app alone would have my credit card, home address and travel documents (Passport).
The thing is is that if you were doing it on their web site for example, or even over the phone, the same information would still be revealed. Wouldn't it?
 
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Oh yes, it's Apple's job to enforce Democratic Rules of Law from our US Constitution, to nations that aren't Democracies. Grow up.

Do you mean that US has a democracy ?

Is there really a difference between having a cloud hosted on government servers, than having a cloud on a company's servers that are being spied constantly by NSA against constitution, even now as we speak ?
 
I can't speak for the "we," but only for myself. It sounds like you believe Apple has been aware of this situation and just let it go on and on.

Let's say that were true (I do not believe it to be the case). And that Apple has known about companies exploiting captured actions/analytics data from iPhones. What would Apple's motivation be for letting that situation slide, as you suggest? Be specific.

Easy enough for Apple to give everyone a one day notice, as they in fact did. Why wouldn't Apple do that months/years ago when it's so easy to say no, with a one day notice.

Having the analytics tool like that is highly useful for developers and companies, and (if used anonymously) would actually be ok. Apple allowing this would make the whole ecosystem more "friendly" for them, and perhaps they didn’t really think it’s a big deal.

Once the media got a hold of this, they reacted on the outcry to, as I said before, save face.

We’ve seen it before with the throttling issue, etc...
 
Sorry but can’t see Apple being anything other then hypocritical now with security and iOS, and they will have known this was going in most likely for years.
Or was it another big reported to Apple and ignored?

I bet this feature has been going on for years as it seems to be thought of as standard practice by the devs? Apple certainly are more then happy for your actions and data in games to be recorded and sold, that’s been going on for years and years.
Yet when these other security stories hit the media, all of a sudden Apple takes action and ‘apparently’ are wonderful for taking said action, even if it is several years too late.

Yet again my favourite link that everyone ignores:

http://toucharcade.com/2015/09/16/we-own-you-confessions-of-a-free-to-play-producer/

That interview is now nearly four years old...

Very good article from that link.
 
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Sorry to tell you but you think just because you use an Apple phone that your privacy is secure. You are being tracked outside of the Apple ecosystem everyday, Google is tied into so many websites and applications, you can't escape it. There was an interesting article on this very subject a few weeks ago where someone tried to completely stop using all of google's eco-system, apps etc. Needless to say it didn't go well.
Yep, just look at the site we're all on right now...
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What a stupid thing to say. That's like saying Microsoft should be responsible because people write malware sometimes.
I think I know what you're trying to say but that statement is bogus; Microsoft doesn't approve malware programs that were written on Windows, Apple approved these apps that people are moaning about now.
 
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The thing is that defenders/supporters of this monitoring fail to understand is the clandestine and stealth methods/techniques being used to track our mouse movements (finger movements on mobiles) which many people are angry about.

A company wants to know why viewers are not clicking on an ad on their website so they employ stealthy analytic apps and programs to run in the background, capturing our every mouse and finger move to see what we are doing. This is wrong on so many levels. If a company wants to track our movements on a site then be open and honest about it, make a popup appear as soon as you enter the site asking 'this site will tack your mouse movements so we can improve our customer experience. do you wish to continue, YES/NO'.

That is all that is needed, let the viewers/customer make the decision if they want their movements tracked and data collected. Do not allow a business to arbitrary make that decision for us.
 
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Unless you live in Russia or China in which all content from your iCloud account is stored on the government servers.
They sure care too much about privacy, until it starts effecting their sales.
It’s not Apple’s business to change laws/regulations. Apple tries to protect your privacy where they can, buy they can’t simply ignore local regulations. It’s citizen’s responsibility to demand such things.
 
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