Apple Forces Us To Wait 2+ Years For A Redesign

[lordofthereef]

How about a 5 second Google search. Not sure what model you have but I found the Verizon version backing for $15. I don't think it's an issue to find a replacement for any smartphone backing that is removable.

That's a battery door. Not the same thing. You mentioned a few posts above you want to have a discussion. Try being less condescending. It will certainly get you further.

EDIT: But an even better comparison might be with phones without a removable battery. Let's talk Lumia 900, HTC ONE, Droid Razer series.

 

[JAT]

Please don't say stupid condescending things to me.

Perhaps if you hadn't begun the conversation in this manner, it wouldn't have followed that path.

 

[blairh]

That's a battery door. Not the same thing. You mentioned a few posts above you want to have a discussion. Try being less condescending. It will certainly get you further.

EDIT: But an even better comparison might be with phones without a removable battery. Let's talk Lumia 900, HTC ONE, Droid Razer series.

What are you referring to then if not the battery door?

I'm not being condescending. But I will not tolerate people making stupid claims towards me like the previous MR member did.

Yes, devices like the ones you mentioned would be problematic to repair with respect to backing. Then again, I wouldn't purchase those devices so that's pretty irrelevant. Also, I really want to drop this 'backing' discussion. There have been countless other threads debating the glass back of the iPhone.

 

[Eddie Bombay]

The battery life on the iPhone is ridiculous.

 

[blairh]

Perhaps if you hadn't begun the conversation in this manner, it wouldn't have followed that path.

My original post is not condescending. I simply stated an opinion.

Your claims towards me are childish and completely without merit. For the last time, I have no desire to debate the backing of the iPhone. It really does not matter in the end.

I will not be responding to any more of your posts moving forward.

 

[lordofthereef]

What are you referring to then if not the battery door?

I'm not being condescending. But I will not tolerate people making stupid claims towards me like the previous MR member did.

Yes, devices like the ones you mentioned would be problematic to repair with respect to backing. Then again, I wouldn't purchase those devices so that's pretty irrelevant. Also, I really want to drop this 'backing' discussion. There have been countless other threads debating the glass back of the iPhone.

"How about a 5 second Google search?" If that isn't condescending, well, I won't get into it further.

Look at the back for the GNex. There is more to it than just the battery door. I guess the closest thing to the iPhone would be the silver band. Thing is, said silver band doesn't take up any of the back of the phone. With most (maybe all) competing devices you will scratch/scuff/crack more than just the battery door. That is all I am saying. If you scratch/scuff/crack more than just the battery door on said device (happens all the time), we are now talking the actual housing of the phone. You won't be replacing that easily at all. Especially not at the prices I mentioned.

 

[netdoc66]

So,..

I think the crux of the OP's gripe is that he bought the iPhone 4 (when it first launched) on a 24-month contract.

His 24-month contract is just about up, and the iPhone 5 won't be ready for him to buy.

He thinks it's ridiculous that he's forced to wait three more months (after his contract has expired) before he can purchase the iPhone 5.

In his perfect world, as soon as his 24-month contract has expired, the next "newest" model will be there for him to immediately purchase.

Anyone gleefully willing to opt into a new mobile contract needs to have their head examined...

(from a reformed serial upgrader)

 

[JAT]

I will not be responding to any more of your posts moving forward.

Thank you.

we are now talking the actual housing of the phone. You won't be replacing that easily at all. Especially not at the prices I mentioned.

What's sad is that you used to be able to do this with many phones. Now they obsolete them so fast your head spins.

 

[blairh]

"How about a 5 second Google search?" If that isn't condescending, well, I won't get into it further.

Look at the back for the GNex. There is more to it than just the battery door. I guess the closest thing to the iPhone would be the silver band. Thing is, said silver band doesn't take up any of the back of the phone. With most (maybe all) competing devices you will scratch/scuff/crack more than just the battery door. That is all I am saying. If you scratch/scuff/crack more than just the battery door on said device (happens all the time), we are now talking the actual housing of the phone. You won't be replacing that easily at all. Especially not at the prices I mentioned.

The back of the GNex is mostly a battery door. That's my point. And a battery door can be easily replaced. I don't think my reply was condescending honestly. I think you were wrong to imply that replacing such a part is difficult or expensive, when it isn't.

What the previous MR was doing was implying (incredibly foolishly) that I purchased my iPhone to follow a trend (and that I didn't like my phone). I can't tolerate such stupid claims. And not only that, he was doing it in a very condescending manner. Me implying that replacing your battery door is a 5 second Google search isn't really the same thing IMO.

Yes, there is more to the GNex then the battery door, but that's most of what could be potentially scuffed up. The point I'm trying to make is that people who own smartphones with replaceable battery doors have little to worry about with respect to damaging the back of your device.

I'm honestly completely done discussing the backing of the iPhone and any other devices.

 

[apolloa]

Does it bother anyone that Apple is most likely going to make us wait 27 or 28 months between the release of the iPhone 4 and a redesigned iPhone come September or October? I was an early iPhone 4 adopter and it really annoys me that I'd potentially have to wait until this fall to upgrade. A much better move would be to release a redesign every two years. That would have lead to a redesigned iPhone this June or July. I honestly think this window (this summer till say October) is going to tempt some consumers to get an Android device instead of waiting on Apple.

Update: I'm too busy today to reply to any more responses but I look forward to what others have to say regarding this. I will say that comparing this scenario to cars, televisions, or computers, is ridiculous. You don't buy those devices with hopes to upgrade them in 24 months. With a smartphone, you often do.

Also, to the people who insist this isn't a big deal, I respectfully disagree. I personally believe very strongly that Apple should make an effort to offer consumers a redesign iPhone every 24 months. If you don't agree, so be it. That's just how I feel.

Not one little bit as I am not someone who considers a £500 device as 'throw away' after every 6 months. I am comfortable enough to be happy with the design as it is and not to feel so compelled to have a new shiny toy because someone else has a new shiny toy and no other reason.

Frankly, your an idiot if you feel differently and live in a material world and need to get out more! Nothing is stopping you from buying another phone should you feel the 'need' to fill your life with new toys every 6 months?

 

[mactouros]

OMG, who can I blame for FORCING ME to read this thread?!!!

 

[lordofthereef]

The back of the GNex is mostly a battery door. That's my point. And a battery door can be easily replaced. I don't think my reply was condescending honestly. I think you were wrong to imply that replacing such a part is difficult or expensive, when it isn't.

Keyword is mostly, but not all. I wasn't referring to the battery door (something I stated multiple times), therefore I am not sure how it was wrong of me to speak about expense. Furthermore, I also mentioned non-removable batteries. After all, it's fairly fitting to compare a phone with an non-removable battery to the iPhone (which also has a non-removable battery) I would think. I went ahead and gave examples. While I have no idea what it would cost to fix those specific phone backings, my guess is it would be more than $30.

What the previous MR was doing was implying (incredibly foolishly) that I purchased my iPhone to follow a trend (and that I didn't like my phone). I can't tolerate such stupid claims. And not only that, he was doing it in a very condescending manner. Me implying that replacing your battery door is a 5 second Google search isn't really the same thing IMO.

I am honestly baffled why you are bringing this up mutiples times as direct responses to me. I am uninterested in your candor with others. I am simply saying you were condescending with me. If you don't feel that pointing out a 5 second Google search yields XYZ results, you honestly need to revisit your understanding of what "condescending" actually means.

Yes, there is more to the GNex then the battery door, but that's most of what could be potentially scuffed up. The point I'm trying to make is that people who own smartphones with replaceable battery doors have little to worry about with respect to damaging the back of your device.

If you are dropping your phone (as you virtually must do to have an issue with cracked glass on the iPhone - again, I am trying to compare like situations) you are very likely going to scuff up more than just the battery door of your phone.

I'm honestly completely done discussing the backing of the iPhone and any other devices.

That's certainly your prerogative. You made it a point to say that the backing of the phone "breaks easily". I pointed out that it was a cheaper fix than almost any other phone. You can accept that, dismiss it, or do whatever else you want with the statement. The fact of the matter is that a broken backplate on the iPhone is quite inexpensive to have fixed by a professional, and even less expensive if you wanted to do it yourself (although, again, you may find trouble finding authentic parts).

 

[Ballis]

Does it bother anyone that Apple is most likely going to make us wait 27 or 28 months between the release of the iPhone 4 and a redesigned iPhone come September or October?

Not at all. I love the iPhone 4 design, and unless they come up with something significantly better looking, they shouldn't change it just for the sake of change. There are lots of other phone makers, none of which makes anything remotely as good looking. So apparently, improving the design might prove difficult.

 

[VulchR]

I sure am glad that Apple consists of educated business men and women and doesn't base their decisions on opinions of the OP

^Fixed that for you...

In any case, I don't care how long Apple takes to redesign phones. I just want them to have a better phone than the competition by the time my next contract is up. So far their batting record in that regard has been perfect in my opinion.

 

[blairh]

Keyword is mostly, but not all. I wasn't referring to the battery door (something I stated multiple times),



I am honestly baffled why you are bringing this up mutiples times as direct responses to me.

You never once mentioned that you were not referring to the battery door. When you start discussing the backing of the GNex, that's a given that you are referring to the battery door.

I keep bringing it up because you are stating that I'm being condescending in this thread. I'm not. No, I don't think stating that a 5 second Google search will result in multiple options to replace the battery door is a condescending thing to point you.

Seeing that we were discussing the backings of phones, I think it was a given that we'd be comparing the glass backing of the iPhone to the removable door of the GNex.

Again, I'm done discussing this. You keep restating the same things. I have no desire to discuss the backing of the iPhone, GNex, or any other devices. I hate the glass backing of the iPhone, but that's pretty irrelevant to this discussion at hand, which I've already previously stated.

I won't be responding to any other posts here. I'll keep an eye out to see what others say, but I'm done responding. It's pretty amazing how condescending some of you are. It's also interesting to see what ridiculous conclusions some of you have come up with. The bottom line is one thing only. You either are totally fine with waiting for Apple to give us a new iPhone this fall, or you aren't. What was simply an opinion clearly stated in the OP has led to many of you to be incredibly mean-spirited and rude. It's like you have to come to Apple's defense.

I'm annoyed and slightly angered that Apple is going to make us wait this long for a redesigned iPhone. If it doesn't bother you, great. And with that, goodbye.