The new Mazda 3 car coming out had a touch screen but it turns that feature off when the car is in motion, I think that’s a good idea others should follow.
that is terrible since it prohibits a passenger from making an input
Audi and Range Rover need to use these ideas as the new A8 and Velour or however you pronounce it, have big touchscreens to control everything, and journalists who have reviewed them said they are distracting to use, I believe they have voice controls so perhaps disabling the touch screens and using those voice controls when driving is better?
absolutely not
it is not the manufactures job to keep people from engaging in activities
that is the job of the state legislature to enact laws
Physical buttons are still beat in a car, it they don’t want to use them anymore? Even the steering wheel controls are now touch driven! Just stick a physical button there! So you know you’ve pressed it.
i agree physical buttons are easy
The way it looks, we are going to need two people to drive a car; a driver and a co-driver, just like in rallies. One to drive, the other to adjust the air-con, play with the radio, answer the phone, navigate and warn the driver for blind spots.
are we driving a car or flying a 787
I 100% agree with something to completely disable phones in vehicles.
i take it you never traveled with kids who entertained themselves for hours with netflix
And if innocent passengers are caught up in that, so be it.
this shouldnt be allowed
I shouldn't have to die because someone else thought it more important to talk to their children while out picking up some milk.
whos to say the person is going to pick up some milk as you claimed
whos to say the incoming call isnt an emergency
whos to say the incoming call isnt the last time the 2 people will ever talk
We shouldn't have young children getting killed because some ******* thought he was special and could take that facetime call or answer a text or whatever.
the easiest fix is to raise the driving age to 18 so theres no children young or not driving cars
I don't feel human lives are an acceptable price for the luxury of using a cell phone.
theres plenty of legitimate reasons to be on the phone while driving
And I don't accept "but I need my phone for work". ********. We all managed to get along just fine before cell phones came along, we can do just fine now.
welcome to conducting business in the 21st century
if someone misses a call for work the end user might go to a competing business
this will lead to a loss of income all because you feel people shouldnt drive while talking on the phone hands free or not
Using a phone while driving your vehicle is like playing Russian Roulette where you point the gun at someone else's head and pull the trigger. I shouldn't have to play someone else's stupid game.
than dont drive or use the roads
And since people won't stop, it should absolutely be 100% disabled while the vehicle is moving.
again you clearly never traveled with young kids in the car
I live in a state where it's illegal to use your phone while driving and it hasn't made a lick of difference from my observations. So yeah, completely disable those suckers.
are you calling the appropriate law enforcement agencies and reporting these drivers
while were at it lets prohibit first responders from using their radios while driving in the interest of a true hands free environment
There's not a phone call or text in the world that is more important than innocent person's life.
youre right there could be a phone call or text where more than 1 person's life is at risk such as a surgeon taking a call while on the road
i volunteer with a sar agency when i have the free time and theres been instances where a group of hikers have gotten lost and were reported as missing
that is just 1 example of a phone call or text that is more important than 1 person's life
I can’t agree with completely disabling phones. Stupid is as stupid does. People will still:
- Read the newspaper
- Eat soup
- Shave
- Put on makeup
- Turn around to discipline their kids
- Etc
i agree and if the phone being disabled is dependent upon the phone being paired to the car with Bluetooth the simple workaround is to simply not pair the phone to the car
Man this whole situation is messed up.
Father looses his child ... that's horrible beyond words so I completely understand his grief (children are supposed to outlive our parents).
that the father sued apple and not the driver shows the father was after money which is the point i lost respect for the father
Driver was a dumbass for FaceTime call (making or even accepting the call). What we don't know is how LONG was the FaceTime call before the accident? As in how long was the actual FaceTime call for?
Was is Audio FaceTime call only?
Was it Video FaceTime call?
has anyone said how it was discovered that the driver was on a facetime call
i agree that an audio or video facetime call should be viewed different as should a video facetime call where the driver never look at the screen
Do we know if the driver accepted the call and specifically say "Goodbye" Ï'm driving" "i have to go driving" "call me back I'm driving"etc?
^ in this situation if the phone is on a center console mount, say even 1 minute from accepting the call until the accident is there possibility for safety the driver did not lift 2 hands from the wheel to end the call? Was the car fully retrofit with steering wheel controls to end the facetime call? What would be teh generally accepted social acceptance if he answered not knowing it was a FaceTime call mentioned he was driving to hang up and the other person did not respect that - call remains connected ... person on other end being an ass not ending the call and further distraction.
It's an accident. Sure preventable: but is it the driver or Apple? Do Not Disturb I've noticed for 2months doesn't fully work now; does not auto detect I'm in a vehicle moving. IF this is the case then teh fathers case DOES have merit. Apple should also block FaceTime Calls (audio/video) when driving but if failing; and the driver did NOT make the FT call then .... yeah Apple.
this is important as it can change the verdict or sentence in court
Does the driver really get 20yrs for a stupid mistake that he did NOT intentionally nor in sound mind knowing would comit?! Probably did not even know a baby was in the car ahead and that sucks a child died. But 20yrs?!
i would be surprised if he gets the 20 years
Lots of research is showing that hands-free doesn't make you any safer than hand-held. So while it's a nice step for states to take, it feels like a pointless exercise.
if you have a link to a peer reviewed article by experts in the field than post it
My own state (Oregon) has such a law, though general observation tells me it's made almost no difference at all. Those laws aren't giving me any additional protection if that research is to be believed.
are you reporting drivers who use their phones while driving
I'm not for introducing tech that would ban lawful activities, it's called a nanny. So if a passenger wanted to use a cell phone, the passenger would be able to use a cell phone.
Want to ban hands free, then make it illegal.
In the meantime education is the best way to get to drivers.
i agree this is something that shouldnt come from the auto or phone manufactures but from the state legislature
If it's technically feasible to disable just the driver's phone, I'd support that 100%
the more i think about it the more i think there could be liability issues if a driver cant call and report an emergency
Otherwise, too bad. If the kid can't play Pokemon Go, he can't play it. If mom can't chat with her friend, too bad. Better to have bored passengers than dead passengers.
lets outlaw music talking and eating while driving while were at it
I never played on a cell phone in the car as a child and I've come out reasonably well-adjusted.
neither have i but welcome to the 21st century
We need to stop thinking of it as a "right". It's a luxury and nothing more. And when your luxury endangers my life, we have a problem.
driving is a privilege not a right
That's kind of been my point. I think it's time to make it illegal.
you cant regulate everything
I just take it one step further in saying I'm fine with tech that would remove the choice from the driver.
that is better than removing it from everyone but if enabling it requires the phone to be paired to the car its easy just to not pair the phone and car in the first place
The "distracted driving" laws in most locations cover activities like these... and while "distracted driving" is against law, unfortunately, stupidity is not.
this is true and if drivers are breaking the law they should be penalized for it
I agree with you completely. No matter what the product, people will use them either on purpose or by accident to hurt or kill people and manufactures can’t control that.
i agree which is why the manufactures of any products should not be held liable for how the end user uses the products
this goes for all manufactures
humans do not multi-task well.
can you post a link to a peer reviewed article from experts in the field to back up this claim
I agree. Lots of humans think they're great multi-taskers. And in some sense, some people are good at juggling two or more activities. But it's not true multi-tasking.
i know for a fact that i am a great multi-tasker because ive been doing it my whole adult life due to my job
the ability to multi-task is a requirement for 1 of my jobs if not 2
It's time-slicing (do this task, then that task, this task, that task, etc). We're just not built to focus on two things at the same time. I even went through an exercise a few years back where the teacher proved to us that humans can't truly multi-task. Like a computer, humans also have to context switch. Which is why if you have people bothering you all day, it's hard to accomplish a task that takes a lot of concentration. It's not just the time lost from the other person talking to you. You also lose a lot of time context switching (aka switching gears).
i dont time-slice in my job i actually multi-task
Driving is an activity that requires a great deal of attention if you want to do it well. It might not take much time to read a single sentence in a text message, or listen to a question on your phone. But while you're reading or listening to the question, you are absolutely not focused on driving. The human brain simply can't do both things at the same time. And even when you finish, your brain still needs time to switch from that activity back to the previous activity (driving).
than ban listening to music and eating from driving as well
thats not a peer reviewed article from experts in the field so i will hold my comments until you publish such a link and preferably more than 1