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disaster!

only 80,000 units a day! Disaster!

They should just cancelled the product. At this rate they'll only sell 29 million a year.
 
Ummmm. Yeah! But when you say 'stupid' I say 'uninformed'

Just like at a grocery store where every product must tell you what ingredients are in it. (not GMOs....yet)

Just like how CC companies must tell you how long it will take to pay off your balance by making minimum payment and what it will total.

Just like how you get to know what your gas milage should be before you buy a car.

Just like how you get to know how much energy every major appliance will use before you buy it.

Look, we don't all have the time or the resources to research every purchase we make. While I believe many of these warnings are silly, there are many things that people don't know and little way of knowing without simple breakdowns of how things work. This is one of those simple consumer heads-up.

I disagree that the average consumer doesn't understand that they're getting a subsidized phone by signing a two-year contract. By making the carriers come up with a breakdown on what portion of your bill goes towards that subsidy is ridiculous. Especially since you pay the same monthly fee once your contract is up.
 
When apple throws their typical premium price on a last years phone tech only just made in plastic, I can´t understand how they expect it to become a huge success. Apple should just stop selling the 4s, wchich is a phone with ultra crap battery and the old dock connector which apple isnt making anymore on other products...and then put the 5c down to the price the sell the 4s. Then it would make sense.

Why would they want to do that when the 4S is still selling well? Like the iPad 2 is still selling well.
 
It's Definitely the Price

I personally love the feel of the 5C. I held one in an Apple store and compared to my 5 I just really loved how it felt in my hand. I would definitely consider getting one this year or next if it wasn't for the price.

Apple made a cheaper/lesser phone model than its flagship model without actually making the phone cheaper.
 
Seriously?!? People are preferring the better phone?

People are going to spend ~$1200-$2000 on a phone plan for 2 (or more) years and it's surprise that people are spending the extra $100 for the nicer phone? Really?

Personally, I didn't avoid an iPhone at the begging because it was an expensive phone, I didn't get it because I couldn't justify the significantly more expensive plan at the time (I had a great plan at Sprint).

Gary
 
I've just bought a 5C in white. It's a fine upgrade from my 4.

The plastic back with its rounded corners is much nicer in the hand than the sharper edged design of the 5S (and my 4), kind of like the old 3GS. This is a simple reason why I preferred it.

Wasn't bothered about the fingerprint reader.
 
Eh, I think this isn't necessarily by design, but not a problem for Apple. They gave the "analysts" and "pundits" what they wanted -- a low cost iPhone -- and the consumers aren't buying it. Now Tim and Co. can turn around and say, "See? It didn't work. Now let us get back to doing what we do best -- hyper focusing on a single product."

Right.... :rolleyes:

How is the 5C a "low cost iPhone?"

And if you think that Apple can survive long-term with a single device, updated every two years (sort of), you've had too much KoolAid.

Apple needs a bigger screen and it needs to continue innovating, not just implementing features which have been available on Android for the last few years.

We can't even get a decent predictive keyboard option on iOS. The stock iOS keyboard is so primitive that I dread typing on my iPhone. :mad: But we have no other options. :mad::mad::mad:
 
And with Motorola/Google releasing a decent $179/$199 off contract phone the iPhone 5c will be dead next year. Granted it does not have LTE or a 32gig option but at that price people will not complain.
Next year will be the war of who can make a cheap feature packed phone. I don't think Apple wants to go into that direction.

I agree 100%. But they better damn well get into the mid-range feature pack phone market, or they will be left in the dust as far as marketshare is concerned. More so than they are already.
 
At least they didn't raise the price of the 5s $100 although they could have, which may have lead to increased 5c sales.

When I saw the $199 5c model, I was afraid that the 5s was going to start at $299.

I think they should ditch the free phone, have made an 8GB 5c for $49 ($79) and not a larger one, make it clear this is the less expensive phone.

The problem with the older phone is really just that it's going to reach it's end of life sooner, but the contract is still the same length. Plus, that wacky 4s they still have doesn't even have a lightening connector.

Gary
 
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You sound offended. I don't get it. The 5C appeals to a number of consumers, i.e. those that don't care about the flashy new specs that they would hardly notice anyway, and that might like the color options. I think you're being highly offensive to that subset of consumers.

WTF - Did you purposely skip the last line, and the entire intent of the post? You included it in your quote.

I took extra pains to qualify my statement EXACTLY, and you still ignored it and focused only on 5 words.
 
When I saw the $199 5c model, I was afraid that the 5s was going to start at $299.

I think they should ditch the free phone, have made an 8GB 5c for $49 ($79) and not a larger one, make it clear this is the less expensive phone.

The problem with the older phone is really just that it's going to reach it's end of life sooner, but the contract is still the same length. Plus, that wacky 4s they still have doesn't even have a lightening connector.

Gary

Again, why would they want to ditch the 4S (the "free phone") when it's still selling well?
 
And if you think that Apple can survive long-term with a single device, updated every two years (sort of), you've had too much KoolAid.

That's pretty much what they've been doing for 7 years now and it doesn't seem to be hurting them. At all.

Although, redesigning the shell doesn't really change the insides that much, but the market perceives it as being "big" changes. I'm not sure if there are larger more significant changes internally from the 3GS->4 or 4s->5 then there were from the 4->4s or 5->5s. The lightning change happened but that just meant I had to replace all my cables and docks, no benefit there.

Personally, I'd rather update on the "S" years, the cases and accessories are available and cheaper :)

Gary
 
Why does everyone keep harping on this? Apple never intended for the 'C' to be the cheap or inexpensive alternative. Apple considers and will always consider all their products to be premium.

I know, but why did they misjudge demand so much they have to scale back production twice? Either make a premium line only, or make the lower-end one (not low end, just lower than premium) significantly cheaper. The 5c seems like a cop out.
 
WTF - Did you purposely skip the last line, and the entire intent of the post? You included it in your quote.

I took extra pains to qualify my statement EXACTLY, and you still ignored it and focused only on 5 words.

Oh, yes, that last line didn't come across condescending at all, "super for them". It's like one of those people that starts out by saying "I don't mean to offend" and then go on to say something offensive.
 
I disagree that the average consumer doesn't understand that they're getting a subsidized phone by signing a two-year contract. By making the carriers come up with a breakdown on what portion of your bill goes towards that subsidy is ridiculous. Especially since you pay the same monthly fee once your contract is up.

Also something that should be disclosed. Many people don't understand this. It's quite simple for cell companies to make people aware.

It's standard practice to make consumers aware of subscriptions and subsidies in nearly all other industries.
 
That's pretty much what they've been doing for 7 years now and it doesn't seem to be hurting them. At all.

Although, redesigning the shell doesn't really change the insides that much, but the market perceives it as being "big" changes. I'm not sure if there are larger more significant changes internally from the 3GS->4 or 4s->5 then there were from the 4->4s or 5->5s. The lightning change happened but that just meant I had to replace all my cables and docks, no benefit there.

Personally, I'd rather update on the "S" years, the cases and accessories are available and cheaper :)

Gary

I think the lightning change was an improvement. I agree with everything else you said.
 
Oh man, they don't get it, do they? They shouldn't be trimming down production of the 5C; they should be lowering its price. I recently got a new iPhone with a new contract. I was still using an old 3GS on a SIM-only contract. Now I have a 4S, as the 5C was too expensive, let alone the 5S. They really aren't getting it, I'm afraid. They could sell a ton of 5C handsets if they just lowered the price somewhat. What a shame...
 
Also something that should be disclosed. Many people don't understand this. It's quite simple for cell companies to make people aware.

It's standard practice to make consumers aware of subscriptions and subsidies in nearly all other industries.

I'm not in favor of a nanny state. No thanks.
 
The 5c is too expensive and the color choices are butt ugly. Was someone who is fully colorblind choose the color scheme for those?
 
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