Not to mention the software updates. Those will be coming often once hackers move their efforts to Macs.
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Apple Gaining Marketshare, Mindshare
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Not to mention the software updates. Those will be coming often once hackers move their efforts to Macs.
Enough Already
More marketshare means more awareness means gamers take a look and come blast on macrumors. Can apple just spend a couple more dollars for satisfactory grfx cards (for gamers) just to shut them up? I'm just tired of it already. Sheesh. True Mac users are generally very productive people. Games aren't their #1 priority. Get over it.
More marketshare means more awareness means gamers take a look and come blast on macrumors. Can apple just spend a couple more dollars for satisfactory grfx cards (for gamers) just to shut them up? I'm just tired of it already. Sheesh. True Mac users are generally very productive people. Games aren't their #1 priority. Get over it.
I used to, I don't anymore except for when Starcraft 2 comes out.
Barely any of my friends play games at all but when they do at least they prefer consoles to PC's. The only need I would have for a better graphics card than the Intel integrated is so my expose and dashboard don't lag when I have a 20" LCD hooked up.
Great news!
I just installed Parallels (using a Boot Camp Vista partition), and it is awesome. Apple's done it right with the Intel switchover. Many originally were worried that Apple made a bad move going to Intel (e.g. "There will be no reason for people to switch to a Mac once the processors are the same!"), but I think Apple's been batting about .999 on the Intel wagon (starting with the fact that they don't use the dingy Intel Inside logo).
I just installed Parallels (using a Boot Camp Vista partition), and it is awesome. Apple's done it right with the Intel switchover. Many originally were worried that Apple made a bad move going to Intel (e.g. "There will be no reason for people to switch to a Mac once the processors are the same!"), but I think Apple's been batting about .999 on the Intel wagon (starting with the fact that they don't use the dingy Intel Inside logo).
funny that ATi and Nvidia even bother to make those high end graphics cards...
i bet there are at least million people out there who would buy a Mac for gaming, too small market for
? well sony has no problems taking my money..
I play games almost daily on my mac... but I don't suppose online Poker is what you had in mind. Hey, it's kind of like an MMORPG...
It is funny, because they make nothing from them.funny that ATi and Nvidia even bother to make those high end graphics cards...
i bet there are at least million people out there who would buy a Mac for gaming, too small market for
I think a lot of people are not paying attention to what Apple is trying to do - especially with the new iMac.
1. Easy to recycle. It is no fluke that Steve stressed just how recyclable the new iMac is. Not only is it good PR, but with a number of governments talking about adding the cost of recycling electrical goods (including computers) onto the price Dell (and other box shifters) may be in for a rude surprise when their low end systems suddenly double in price and they have to go through the painful process of redesigning them to be more eco-friendly. When apple moves to LED backlit displays (as they have said the will), they are going to be in a nice position.
2. Power consumption. Just as recycling is a nightmare looming on the horizon for other computer manufacturers, the possibility of extra punative taxes on power-guzzeling electronic goods lurks in the future. While many of the design considerations on the iMac were to keep the heat and noise under control, there is the incidental spin-off that the thing eats less power.
The graphics chip manufacturers have arrived at the point that intel did with their ill-conceived P4. High performance designs eat too much power and generate too much heat. Intel fixed things with their Core and Core 2 chips. Nvidia and AMD need to do the same.
Apple is looking to the future. Unfortunately we have to wait for the graphics chip manufactures to deliver yesterday's graphics chips today.
Read up on the difference between GPU and CPU design. CPU design is based on the "full custom" model. This development process has long development times as each individual component is hand optimized. On the other hand GPU are built use the "cell based" design approach. This uses library sets of generic "cells" from design applications that are already established. Part efficiency and performance is sacrificed for turn around time.
It might be smaller, but it's not tiny when compared to consoles. And there are few things to remember here:
a) Gamers spend a lot of money on their hardware. What better group of consumers to go after?
b) Gamers are usually quite knowledgeable about computers, and they often consult their frieds and families when it comes to computers. Turning those people in to Mac-users would bring others around them to the fold as well.
c) Consoles will never replace computers in gaming. Some games are simply better on computers than on consoles (and vice versa of course).
And that 10% spends a lot of money on computers. And even that 10% is a huge number of people.
I've had 5 different first-time Mac buyers come to me over the last 5 months and ask about laptops. I had each person explain to me what they want to do with their computer and NOT ONE of them gave me any reason to suggest the Macbook Pro.
They all got Macbooks and are very happy with them. For the majority of computer users, the Macbook's specs are more than enough.
Which is why all the graphics chips use efficient 60nm and 45nm production processes to produce a product that has lower power consumption and thus generates less heat?
Oh wait.....
It's obvious that Apple will step up to something like 15% or 20% of the market in less than 2 years, and get to the 3rd spot in its main markets; it's firing on all fronts, and this includes the corporate market with both Macs and the iPhone (as a basis for yet more halo effect).
A thousand years after the launch of the iPod, and NO player has been able to supersede it; the same happens with the iTMS. The new revision will just keep it up.
As for Macs, no other maker has the same levels of quality, reliability, OS, design and security, it's a simple fact that no one can deny. Apart from specialized gaming markets or the low-end of the scale, Apple's offerings are more than appealing to the market, and even more so with the dual-boot possibilities.
And yeah, I just checked the new iMac in person today...the glossy screen is simply a NON-issue to most users. You can barely bother about it, even in a well-lit environment such as the Apple shop I went to.
Apple's machines are simply awesome, and there's never been such a bad time for Apple bashers or PC zealots in this forum...their arguments are slowly slimming down to zero...
A thousand years after the launch of the iPod, and NO player has been able to supersede it; the same happens with the iTMS. The new revision will just keep it up.
As for Macs, no other maker has the same levels of quality, reliability, OS, design and security, it's a simple fact that no one can deny. Apart from specialized gaming markets or the low-end of the scale, Apple's offerings are more than appealing to the market, and even more so with the dual-boot possibilities.
And yeah, I just checked the new iMac in person today...the glossy screen is simply a NON-issue to most users. You can barely bother about it, even in a well-lit environment such as the Apple shop I went to.
Apple's machines are simply awesome, and there's never been such a bad time for Apple bashers or PC zealots in this forum...their arguments are slowly slimming down to zero...
I don't know what you are getting at, but GPU manufacturers do not have anywhere close to the resources that CPU manufacturers do. It's the reason behind many of the design and manufacturing choices.
Sorry, I just don't buy that. Got any hard numbers on what % of computer users do "serious" gaming?
LOL...you've LOST it if you believe they will have 15-20% market share in 2 years.
I assume he meant 15-20% of sales, not of installed base.
If they are able to make 17% of laptop sales in a month now, and the trend has been upward for all their machines, why is this so unrealistic?
Yes, 15% or 20% of all current sales; actually the installed base might be even bigger with time, considering that Macs last MUCH MORE than any crappy PC out there.
Not necessarily...in the past year ive convinced FIVE confirmed PC head to get a Mac;
And they are so-well, dont know how else to describe it....greatful-like in the running Window was always a headache, whearas Macs are so clean.
Howver Im certian of the fact that they can also use Windoze if they needed to was a factor
Exponentially Mac use could spread like wildfire if those two told 2 friend, who told 2 friends etc.
But APPLE needs to stick with quality issues.
I took a new eMac back after it died in the first week.
My friends first Macbook was taken back later in the afternoon the day she bought it, when it started acting funny.
Apple needs low AROR-acceptable rate of return-meaning they will put only so much time in to parts and manufacturing, and figure they still make more many even it 5% of their machines come back for repair, than if they took the time to build a 1% return rate.
Yeah, Dell and HP hae similare of higher rturns, but this a Mac-the Acura of computers, not a Hundai-wher you can expect constatn problems
No more OS beta releases, that are for me embarrassing to explain away.
I remember the whole historic glory when Panther was first released-only to all flat on their face, to find a very large segment of people having common USB problems.
There are those of us who do want decent graphics cards for something other than gaming. 3D work in CAD can make good use of a decent graphics card. I do agree that I'd like to see a consumer (i.e. less expensive) desktop that is a bit more configurable.