Apple Gains Marketshare in Broadcast Market

[Fukui]

Re: My 2cts on it

Originally posted by mk_in_mke
Hats off to Apple...
What kills me is when I ear that Aplle is only 3% of the market; what are we talking about here, hardware or OS?... Someone should publish a list of PC vendors and their market share. Then we can compare apples to Apple!

Well, the PC market is always getting bigger and bigger...apple just isn't growing fast enough to keep up with curve...overall that is. In Consumer PC sales, I read somewhere they're actually pretty well off, but business sales (think of all those dell kioisks etc.) are a place that apple is very foreign.

I am dismayed though that in Japan of all places, a piece of Junk manufacturer like DELL can be so successful...oh well....😱

 

[fatbarstard]

The other 2c worth...

I read somewhere, sometime that Apple is like BMW... BMW has a marekt share of about 4% worldwide but still does rather nicely thank you..

In hardware terms Apple is like so many other manufacturers - small market share but rather than 'me-too' boxes Apple has oh so nice stuff

Software is harder though... if Apple were to port OS X to Intel chipsets then its share would be much higher, but an installed base of nearly 10m for OS X is nothing to sneeze at... 🙂 😎

 

[SiliconAddict]

Of interest, in a recent poll most Mac users feel that Apple's ideal marketshare would fall between 10 and 40%.

I think I would have a cross between an epileptic seizure and an orgasm if Apple share ever reached 40%.

 

[iggyb]

Re: The other 2c worth...

Originally posted by fatbarstard
I read somewhere, sometime that Apple is like BMW... BMW has a marekt share of about 4% worldwide but still does rather nicely thank you..

In hardware terms Apple is like so many other manufacturers - small market share but rather than 'me-too' boxes Apple has oh so nice stuff

Software is harder though... if Apple were to port OS X to Intel chipsets then its share would be much higher, but an installed base of nearly 10m for OS X is nothing to sneeze at... 🙂 😎

Because of the software issue, the BMW analogy doesn't work for me. I can buy a BMW and then buy gas at any gas station and drive on all the same roads. You buy a Mac, you're sacrificing the ability to drop in a Best Buy and grab some software, gaming or otherwise. If Apple can increase its marketshare to, say, 25%, then the software issue would almost be gone.

 

[TVGenius]

We're a community college running two cable channels (and adding a broadcast channel and another cable channel on a satellite campus 70 miles north by the end of the year). We have four G5s dedicated to Final Cut Pro editing for staff, plus a lab with six G4 FCP stations for the television production classes we offer. They're also adding a smaller lab of eMacs for editing for other departments. One of thge four local commercial stations uses FCP exclusively as well.

 

[painandgreed]

Re: Re: The other 2c worth...

Originally posted by iggyb
Because of the software issue, the BMW analogy doesn't work for me. I can buy a BMW and then buy gas at any gas station and drive on all the same roads. You buy a Mac, you're sacrificing the ability to drop in a Best Buy and grab some software, gaming or otherwise. If Apple can increase its marketshare to, say, 25%, then the software issue would almost be gone.

When yo buy a BMW, you sacrifice the ability to install Ford parts in your car. The BMW analogy works fine as far as an analogy is supposed to go. It still uses the same gas (electricy) and roads (tcpip). Functionabilty varies frm device to device as your BMW isn't goign to crry as much as a unimog but a unimog is never going to get above 55 on the open highway. You just need to make sure that your vehicle preforms the functions that you need.

 

[bishopduke]

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[SiliconAddict]

good news...could be better.

Originally posted by fatbarstard
I read somewhere, sometime that Apple is like BMW... BMW has a marekt share of about 4% worldwide but still does rather nicely thank you..

In hardware terms Apple is like so many other manufacturers - small market share but rather than 'me-too' boxes Apple has oh so nice stuff

Software is harder though... if Apple were to port OS X to Intel chipsets then its share would be much higher, but an installed base of nearly 10m for OS X is nothing to sneeze at... 🙂 😎

I love it when I hear this. Not to pick on one individual but the concept that Apple can survive long term on a low market share. This is BS. Or if nothing else is a SLOW death. People have predicted Apple's death for year and yet they have hung on. This doesn’t mean they aren't slowly loosing their grip on the cliff.
BMW is an island to itself. It doesn't require anything special to run. BMW could go out of business tomorrow and your car would be just fine. Until you wanted to by parts.
Now lets look at Apple. Apple depends on developers and developer’s biggest consideration is how large a market they can distribute their wares to. This is why you almost always see products ported from PC and THEN to Mac and almost never from Mac to PC with a few notable exceptions such as iTunes. Mac is a second thought to many developers what with a 4% market share and even then what percentage of the market share is OS9 or older? A developer is not going to make a piece of software for OS9 at this point. So we are left with what?

This is really good news for Apple. Mindshare is the first step in reclaiming that market share MS has taken from them. But mindshare is NOT enough. I DO NOT care what anyone says. Price DOES matter. Apple needs a cheap e/iMac to rip into the $500 PC territory. Like it or not a growing number of users aren’t looking for a high end computer. They are looking for a system to do the basics. While an e/iMac can do this, a comparably equipped PC can run rings around an e/iMac. IMHO, this is unacceptable esp if Apple ever hopes to climb into the double digit market share ever again.

For the heck of it I went and customized my perfect 17” PowerBook that included a second battery and second power brick along with FCE. I just about freaked at the end price. Aprox $4,000 for the laptop. I put less as a down payment on my off the showroom floor car. And yes I know your response. If you don’t like it get a cheaper Mac. My point is that to get a comparable system to a Pentium M, and even then the Pentium M blows the G4 out of the water, I need to shell out aprox $3,500 - $4,100. This is just embarrassing IMHO.

 

[Rocketman]

Originally posted by evil_santa
Where I work we are looking to replace our Avids & media 100 & Tape suites with FCP with media on a server at DV quality, the server will also be used to transmit from. 🙂

Here is one I setup:


Items you have selected Part No. Est Ship Qty Unit Price Ext. Price

Xserve G5 2GHz DP/1GB/80GB/CD/2xGigE/Unlimited
M9217LL/A $3,999.00 $3,999.00
Mac OS X Server, Unlimited License
Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5
80GB ADM (1x80GB Serial ATA)
CD-ROM
1GB DDR400 ECC SDRAM - 2x512

APC Netshelter 2 Post Open Frame Rack, AR201
T4918LL/A $149.00 $149.00

Xserve G5 Cluster Node 2GHz DP/80GB/2xGigE/10Client
M9215LL/A $2,999.00 $8,997.00
Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5
512MB DDR400 ECC SDRAM - 2x256
80GB ADM (1x80GB Serial ATA)
Mac OS X Server, 10-seat License

Subtotal $13,145.00

Interconnect hardware and cables $2000.00
Memory $2000.00
Storage $2000.00
Software $2000.00

Total $21,145.00

 

[iggyb]

I completely agree with your assessment, SiliconAddict!