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Apple Gets EU Warning to Open iOS to Third-Party Connected Devices
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Read again my comment... I am saying that just because Spotify is the biggest player in the streaming business this does not mean it is a gatekeeper. My comment was a reply to the guy wondering why the EU does not regulate Spotify as it does with Apple.
India and China are huge, but the vast majority of the consumers haver very little disposable income. Also (at least in China), other brands are taking over as the status symbol phones from Apple.
Several. It's literally a meme.
I noticed you didn't address my followup to your meme. I spent some time trying to find out who is working on the next electrical outlet standard to replace NEMA 1-15 and shockingly I cannot find anything on the topic. Is the >60 year old NEMA 1-15 the absolute best we have to offer or are we just trapped by the imposed standard? We will suffer the same fate with USBC, it won't take 60 years for a new standard but we will certainly be stunted by the EU and their whim to adopt a new connector standard.
It is sad that someone cannot have a better connector and just use it, innovation will be stifled.
To be fair- Apple is notorious for wanting to use others stuff for free. Qualcomm, Masimo, and others. No tears shed for them.
I think the majority act like big fans - like Tim is their dad - and AAPL shareholders their gods!
We don't know the inner workings of Apple. But as someone that was involved in several discussions about taking a company public, there are certain consequences. Big tech companies typically focus primarily on maximizing profits. It is required by law they adhere to the wishes of their shareholders which pretty much lines up with do everything you can to maximize profits. So its a battle between how the company should operate. To adhere to shareholders to keep their profits high (let's be real here if they FULLY open iOS which is what people want Apple's profits will decrease significantly), they must follow the LETTER of the law not the SPIRIT.
It is a giant mess, it is not as easy to say "Apple is being childish". Businesses are MUCH MUCH MUCH more complex than that.
It's not, he's referring too the physical connection (but even there it's not). The other thing that they seem to always leave out is how fast USB-C can charge significantly faster than lightning can.
As to nobody cares about data transfer over cable? I call BS on this, and again- USB-C is light years ahead of lightning.
As always, Apple wanted to make sure you had to use their stuff vs industry standard.
Again, Apple was clearly moving to USB-C. The change to USB-C unlikely made one iota of difference in their revenue.
And yes, normal users do not care about data transfer over a cable. People like us who post on MacRumors do, but we're a tiny percentage of iPhone users.
They tried, but they just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and have to pay up
I hope no one is shedding tears over any of this.
I mean all outcomes are situations that are more or less benign to human endeavors.
If the EU regulation do everything they hope they will, then we will have a perfectly balanced market that supports a plethora of sub-segmented related markets and the world (at least the EU) will live in peace and harmony.
If the EU is completely errant on there efforts then we will have a diminished user experience for a product that less than a third of the EU citizens care about and a company that was forced to dedicate resources to design decision they didn't want to implement. Granted, it will likely diminish the experience for all of that companies customers, but still not the end of human comfort.
Let's keep it all in perspective. There are people drinking filthy water, breathing deadly air, working under inhumane conditions for little money because some industries in some places are criminally under regulated. So in the grand scheme of things, the problems with our luxury products are not worth crying over.
No, you don't have to go trough Spotify to reach other services, but to reach Spotify you have to use ios... do you get the difference? it is easy!
The amount of misinformation around the EU vs. Ireland tax case is mindboggling. Seriously, please read up on what actually happenedThey tried, but they just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and have to pay up
Well, that is their choice. They can pull out all together if they want too. Businesses have to comply in the areas they want to do business. Apple has dropped it's drawers in China (comparatively) to gain market share there. If they want to do bus in the EU/Europe... follow the rules. Also, they just play effing dumb sometimes. Their whole implementation of the fee's to "comply" with the DMA related to the app store was disingenuous.
What other services do I get to by using YouTube? Because it was designated as a gatekeeper.
You should be happy if EU is trying to limit the power that big tech companies can use to squeeze users...
You mean the $14.5B case that they just lost on back taxes? I think I'm at a decent level of understanding- how about you? Apple's statement about the retroactive rule change was utter
You said the reason Spotify shouldn't be considered a gatekeeper was because, and I quote:
"you don't have to go through Spotify to reach other services, but to reach Spotify you have to use iOS"
So why is YouTube a gatekeeper then? What services do you reach going through YouTube? If YouTube is a gatekeeper, why not Spotify? It meets all the other criteria, except the EU explicitly left out music streaming as a covered service (but left in video sharing).
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You're right. Brake pads and house siding was better when asbestos was more widely used too, mosquitos were easier to dispatch of with DDT, and seatbelts, helmets and airbags? Psh... who needs them!
You keep claiming Apple "got their hand caught in the cookie jar" and that Apple was "not paying taxes on that money", so it's clear you don't have a correct understanding of what happened. The EU ruled that Ireland's tax law was illegal, not that Apple did anything wrong. The US had already paid taxes TO THE US on that money. So now, the US is going to give Apple that money back, so Apple can pay taxes to Ireland, that Ireland doesn't want.
Ben Thompson did a pretty great job of explaining this - unfortunately it's paywalled. Here's a key point:
Apple didn't do anything wrong here.
In what world are antitrust regulations in any way shape or form similar to safety regulations? You’re just building strawmen now.