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Many corporate managers are caring macbook air or retina macbook pro now. They prefer it over pc. If other employees are offered a choice, they'll choose mac in aheart beat.
 
Oh, I was only referring to Jobs saying this (we're entering post pc era) when he first introduced the iPad.

I didn't think there will be a post pc era soon (if ever), and I still think that way.

A PC has far more capability than a large slice of the user base needs, and a tablet has enough. The post PC era isn't that nobody needs a computer, just that we are past the point where a computer is the only way to meet digital needs.

People didn't stop using stone in the Iron Age.
 
A PC has far more capability than a large slice of the user base needs, and a tablet has enough. The post PC era isn't that nobody needs a computer, just that we are past the point where a computer is the only way to meet digital needs.



People didn't stop using stone in the Iron Age.


True.
 
Apple may have better market share in the U.S, and that's all they have

They can''t even go report outside the U.S with any stats... That's not a company, that's a liar..

And i hate liars.. :mad:

Time to report globally like all other companies too...

this is so 1980's
McDonalds has good market share in the US, but that doesn't mean it's good food.
 
Desktops went out in the late 90's sorta, laptops came in, then tablets in, and now larger phones are in. Now I think tablets are going out, laptops might even eventually go out, and desktops come back in, especially with home automation, the cloud, and connected tv's. So skip the tablets unless you want to read in bed, skip laptops unless you're a student or travel for work, and just have a desktop with a nice big screen and a big mouse, a phone with a moderate sized screen, and an apple tv.
 
Hopefully not. I say hopefully because to gain that sort of marketshare, they'd need some competitively cheap products. Seeing the new low-cost Mac Mini, low-cost iMac, and the outdated non-Retina 13" MacBook Pro, Apple can't do 'low cost' without the quality/performance slipping.

To paraphrase Steve, they don't ship junk. If you're going to offer a low-priced option, ensure it's competitive and that people get the 'Apple experience' that Tim Cook & the rest can't stop talking about. If you can't do quality across the line, don't offer a low-cost option.

Sadly that's not the case.

I was going to post something like that, but you said it far better. Apple doesn't need marketshare, they need profits. It's much harder to make a device that people will spend over a grand on than it is to make a $300 piece of junk that people will buy because it's the cheapest option. Stick a Celeron N2830, 4GB of RAM, and a 320GB hard drive into a 14" piece of plastic with a 1366x768 display of dubious quality, and you're good to go. Dell and HP need to be higher on the list if they're going to get any sort of profit from such a machine.

Lenovo has a similar percentage to Apple, but they also have a similar approach. They'll never approach the numbers of Dell and HP, but they sure do make great laptops.

Marketshare doesn't matter remember? It's profits :)

When Apples market share goes down it doesn't matter, when it goes up it's party time.

Here to fling mud in people's faces as usual, I see.
 
Mac Refresh Rate

I used to be a PC (not by choice) and replacing them every two years, either some hardware problem or new OS could not handle the older PC.
Not to forget, I have to reimage the PC every year to get rid of junk and bloatware.

I was so frustrated when my expensive HP laptop would crash every 3 months and it was a hardware issue. Did I tell you that it also ran VISTA and corrupted OS during the mandatory security update. I got fusion and migrate to Mac and over a year, migrated the applications too.

Now, my oldest mac, a MBA (i5, 128Gb, 4Gb) is the most heavily used by everyone in the family. Our MBPs are loaded but the 3+ year old MBA with works for everyone except for Photoshop.

The point is that the Macs last long, the OS is robust. There is no need to refresh every couple of years. The batter of My MBA is still good, my $1400 work issued Lenovo need a new battery every year.

The numbers are definitely affected by the fact that people have to buy PCs a lot more often than a Mac. As a user of both the systems, I can tell that Macs are a lot cheaper to own.
 
I used to be a PC (not by choice) and replacing them every two years, either some hardware problem or new OS could not handle the older PC.
Not to forget, I have to reimage the PC every year to get rid of junk and bloatware.

I was so frustrated when my expensive HP laptop would crash every 3 months and it was a hardware issue. Did I tell you that it also ran VISTA and corrupted OS during the mandatory security update. I got fusion and migrate to Mac and over a year, migrated the applications too.

Now, my oldest mac, a MBA (i5, 128Gb, 4Gb) is the most heavily used by everyone in the family. Our MBPs are loaded but the 3+ year old MBA with works for everyone except for Photoshop.

The point is that the Macs last long, the OS is robust. There is no need to refresh every couple of years. The batter of My MBA is still good, my $1400 work issued Lenovo need a new battery every year.

The numbers are definitely affected by the fact that people have to buy PCs a lot more often than a Mac. As a user of both the systems, I can tell that Macs are a lot cheaper to own.

No just pointing out everyone else says.
 
A PC has far more capability than a large slice of the user base needs, and a tablet has enough. The post PC era isn't that nobody needs a computer, just that we are past the point where a computer is the only way to meet digital needs.

People didn't stop using stone in the Iron Age.

The main issue is with the bolded statement. Even if you can carefully get away with using only a tablet, a PC is much less effort to deal with.
 
Oh, I was only referring to Jobs saying this (we're entering post pc era) when he first introduced the iPad.

I didn't think there will be a post pc era soon (if ever), and I still think that way.

Didn't jobs hate that term and call people out for using it?
 
Lenovo make great laptops? Please!

My experiences with them have been nothing but positive. They last a long time, have better screens than most other Windows laptops in a similar price range, and generally tend to be high quality products. I'm also a sucker for the ThinkPad design, so there's some disclosure you might want.

On a side note, that's exactly why I don't think the MacBook line is in dire need of being redesigned- if it ain't broke and it looks good, don't fix it.
 
Like others have said, Apple will never overtake Microsoft due to the lack of $200-$500 offerings and I don't mind that; Apple doesn't want to be in that market.

Still, I'm very glad to see Mac sales grow. The larger their market share becomes, the greater support they'll get from third party developers. Granted, the software gap between Windows and OS X has shrunk, but there are still many occasions when OS X versions of software are inferior to the Windows counter (and I'm not talking about Microsoft software). Apple just needs to keep the Mac platform alive and healthy.
 
Really puts it into perspective how dominate windows still is. On top of that a lot of people dual boot to windows from their macs.
 
Many corporate managers are caring macbook air or retina macbook pro now. They prefer it over pc. If other employees are offered a choice, they'll choose mac in aheart beat.

Not long ago there was competition from Sony's Vaio line for very expensive compact laptops that executives would be proud to be seen using, but for whatever reason Sony's Vaio line collapsed and they killed it.

Panasonic's Toughbook line had some amazingly compact laptops for their time but they never really marketed or expanded their suppliers in the US to make much of an impact in overall numbers.

And now Microsoft is in direct competition with their own partners.
 
The only ways Apple can catch up with others are by coming up with cheaper options and getting Corporate acceptance.
Office 2015 for the mac certainly isn't going to hurt in this area. Just like Office for the iPad.

As enterprise macs become more relevant in the Apple ecosystem, I really don't think pricing needs to drop. The build quality should keep edging buyers closer to Apple's side.
 
Apple may have better market share in the U.S, and that's all they have

They can't even go report outside the U.S with any stats... That's not a company, that's a liar..

And i hate liars.. :mad:

Time to report globally like all other companies too...

this is so 1980's

Apple reports worldwide numbers all the time.

For instance... Apple sold 5.5 million Macs last quarter... and 39 million iPhones last quarter...

That's global.


Also... market share is calculated from ALL companies... including those who are NOT Apple.

How the hell is Apple supposed to report numbers from HP or Dell? They can't. Apple only knows what Apple sells.

That's where analysts come in... 3rd parties who add up ALL the sales from ALL companies... and then they calculate each company's share.

Market share is just that... the entire market.

A single company can't report market share. They can report their unit sales... but someone one else has to figure out market share.
 
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