A few years before the Mac, Xerox sold about 25,000 Stars with their windowed GUI:
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A few years before the Mac, Xerox sold about 25,000 Stars with their windowed GUI:
sheez, since you brought up IP in your post
http://www.ificlaims.com/IFI 2009 patents 011210 final.htm
Samsung is #2, after IBM. Apple's not on the top 50 list.
So defending your intellectual property is piss poor business ethics? Yeah, OK...
So any unethical behavior that is bad for consumers and competition is OK as long as it's under the heading of "business" ? Yeah, that sounds about right ... like the phrase "nothing personal, it's just business" somehow negates any ill will and makes behaving in an unscrupulous manner acceptable.
Not saying I agree with the original post, but this type of "business is business and anything goes" thought is downright dangerous.
It goes way farther then that. If you take a look at many of the designs coming from Samsung, you will see that they actually LOOK almost like other apple products. Apple may not have a huge desire to stop Samesung as it does in protecting their own IP. Nobody wants their designee copied ant tweaked. I feel that Samesung should have seen it coming and should have not shaped, colored and designed their hardware and ui to look like an iPhone or iPad and iOS.
Not really. There is a history of this.
In the 80's US automotive manufacturers got access via court orders to pre-release Japanese concept cars to see if they were infringing on various mechanical patents held by different parts of the Big Three Automakers before they went into productions and shipped into the USA. That is one of the untold stories of the "American automotive comeback of the 1990's" and not just higher quality American products.
Also, Samsung has a big history of just ripping off any good software or UI design to keep their electronic lines humming to avoid paying software engineers. The sad part of all this is if there is an injunction, it will mostly just stop shipments to US and other western countries.
These infringing products are then dumped to other less developed / third world countries at lower but still profitable margins. India, African countries and even South America gets the first shipment instead of Japan / US / Europe if there is an injunction. This is a big win / small win game for Samsung while a win / lose situation for Apple.
apple is a mean force. pretty soon all competitors will be required to have apple trees in the backyard.
You are rehashing things that are incorrect, or just semantics. The Braun thing is just funny at this point, there is no legal issue. Steve's comment was a joke, Apple quite clearly pays for IP when appropriate. Sometimes they get sued when there is a dispute, and then it is settled. That's how business works. Xerox agreed to let Apple make a similar gui (and therefore their semi-related lawsuit was thrown out), so what's the problem? Apple haters keep bringing this stupid crap up, ignoring facts.
Do you go to forums about every single company that has ever sued for IP infringement and post similar things? I'd like to see links to those posts.
How many people have to come to MacRumors and just search the net for anything you can possibly find to put Apple in a bad light and highlight some other company? Today it's Samsung. Yaaayyy for Samsung. Dowwwnnn with Apple.
Defending trademark/trade dress is hardly "destroying all competition." Apple Inc. has a duty to its shareholders to defend what it feels is an infringement of its intellectual property. It's not dirty pool.
S2 isn't released in the U.S., unless you get it from another country.
I did get the Infuse from AT&T in the U.S. this week. Nice large 4.5" Super AMOLED Plus screen, glad I got it before the law suit stops them.
Who won the motion? Apple...
Samsung should follow your advice to avoid this sort of thing.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)
Maybe MacRumors should sue Apple in order to get a glimpse at some unreleased hardware...
Maybe MacRumors should sue Apple in order to get a glimpse at some unreleased hardware...
I mean at least try, but when you go do something like this, you are just screaming for Apple's to take notice.
A few of points:
1. Apple paid Xerox in AAPL shares to gain access see the GUI.
2. Xerox execs did not see the value of the GUI at the time.
3. Apple hired away Xerox engineers to work on the Lisa.
4. The Star GUI Xerox showed to Apple did not have overlapping windows which is why MSFT windows did not have overlapping windows until they got access to an early version of the Lisa given to them by Apple to use as a dev machine.
Steve just wanted a Galaxy Tab since he didn't want to pay $1,000 to get one since he didn't go to the I/O.
Haha, I knew someone would bring that up on this thread.
Ever heard of PDMI?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
"It has been developed by CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) as ANSI/CEA-2017-A standard Common Interconnection for Portable Media Players in February 2010. Chaired by David McLauchlan from Microsoft, the standard was developed with the input or support of over fifty consumer electronics companies worldwide. [1] It is designed as an alternative to the iPod interface which was used exclusively by Apple Inc."
Fo sure brah! When i saw unboxings of it i was like wow that looks like the 30 pin dock connecter.
As has been stated before, that is not an Apple connector.
Samsung is using a PDMI connector.
Precisely. This is a Samsung Mobile Division Problem. Let's not spread it out like Peanut Butter to all of Samsung, eh?The Judge obviously has good reason to allow this based on the speed.
Apple will reach inside Samsung's Mobile Division's Undergarments and pull out cloned Silicon Cahones. Samsung needs to regain control of their Mobile Division, and do it NOW.
Deserves to be quoted as it's a measured insight.
I'd have to add however, much of today's big business is myopic, ie 'short' term gains are prioritised. For reference: see what's happening with the bailout money. Long-term risks are simply invisible when there's big money waiting to be had.