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Apple Granted Access to Unreleased Samsung Hardware in Patent Suit

Samsung's tablet is a flop. Version 2 will be just as much of a flop I'm sure.

Samsung should drop their plans for a tablet and concentrate on making parts for Apple.
 
ten-oak-druid said:
Samsung's tablet is a flop. Version 2 will be just as much of a flop I'm sure.

Samsung should drop their plans for a tablet and concentrate on making parts for Apple.
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So agree with you! People criticize the iPad for being an oversized iPod touch. The Samsung Galaxy Tab is truly an oversized Galaxy phone.
 
Lunarstone said:
Yeah! How dare you! Steve may be harsh with his methods (though I don't think so) but his intentions are true. Without him, Apple probably wouldn't be where it is now.
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Exactly. Steve thinks only of the consumer and what is best for us. He is a selfless, giving man who only wants to better mankind. And he knows how to do it and nobody else does. Steve is all wise and knowing. And he does it just for us.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Exactly. Steve thinks only of the consumer and what is best for us. He is a selfless, giving man who only wants to better mankind. And he knows how to do it and nobody else does. Steve is all wise and knowing. And he does it just for us.
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I remembered there was a video that Macrumors posted of Jobs in 2001 giving a tour of one of the Apple stores. His words that he chose to speak and use gave me the impression that he knew what he wanted and more importantly, what the customers wanted. Though you can never satisfy everyone, you can satisfy most people. And that is what Apple is doing right now.
 
Lunarstone said:
I remembered there was a video that Macrumors posted of Jobs in 2001 giving a tour of one of the Apple stores. His words that he chose to speak and use gave me the impression that he knew what he wanted and more importantly, what the customers wanted. Though you can never satisfy everyone, you can satisfy most people. And that is what Apple is doing right now.
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The customer doesn't know what they want. Steve tells us what we want and we buy it. Only Steve knows.
 
Lunarstone said:
When I got the Samsung F480i, I showed my friend the phone and guess what? He was shocked! The F480i and the iPhone looked SO similar! Both had the line of dots to show when moving between panes, the F480i had 1 speaker and 1 home button. The difference was that the 1 speaker in front was same size as the home button on the iPhone. Likewise, the home button for the F480i was same size as the speaker on the iPhone.
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You, sir, need to see an ophtalmologist!

Same applies to your friend.
 
Piggie said:
By publicly appearing to be worried to this extent, and wanting to see the product, they are in effect lending their opinion the fact that this Samsung device muse be good, and good enough to threaten their "Apple" product. After all it's it's worse, why would they worry?
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Not really. There's nothing here that suggests it's "good", just that it's visually unoriginal. Inside, Samsung could be filling it with whipped cream and fertilizer. Doesn't make it "good". Makes it on par with the Chinese back-street iPhone knock-offs that have no telephone circuitry in them, except made by a large company who should know better.
 
PlipPlop said:
Apple so scared of the crushing power of Android. I wonder if they will ever go after the best phone manufacturer HTC.
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Protecting your product identity =/= "scared".

If Pepsi previewed a new cola with the Coke ribbon device on it, you damn well better believe the pair would be fronting up in court, and Coke would be demanding to see product samples. Does that mean Coke is "scared" of Pepsi? Hardly. (I personally prefer Pepsi.)
 
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Lesson learned: ripping off Apple is a bad idea.
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Ripping off anyone, any competitor is a bad idea. You can't succeed by copying others. Take the example of Apple unique products, Apples products list is very small yet its the one of the leading company and most trusted brand in the world.
 
"Oh- this- this phone Samsung- it's.. it's slippery! (crash) Oh! Whoops! Broke it!!"
 
Ah, just another reason why the current patent / copyright system is so broken.

It is no longer realy important who did what first or who innovated something but whoever brought something to a judges awareness first (like "yeah, i heard about that") will most likely win those cases.

The iPhone is actualy a perfect example for this. Most if not all features were there previously. The basic design to me looks like a reduced HP or HTC Phone as early as Windows Mobile 5 (for example the early HP ipaq models).

The grid arrangement of programms was also there in windows mobile 5. Considering the Hom,escreen being more like an information filled lockscreen an a tap on the programms button the unlock "slide" the layout is just the same. (that's probably one reason why so many people who previously used winmobile 5/6 had such an easy time transfering to the iPhone)

if you look at some developer sites like xda-developers you will also find that many things found in ios were done by independent developers for the various htc phones way before the iphone was presented.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to talk down the iphone, i'm just saying the developement was not innovate something new but to combine existing tech and making it appealing to the average joe. This is also the reason why all those patent related law suits realy sicken me. All the big players in the computer and telecommunications business copy eachother like there is no tomorrow, so give me a break about all those "but but but YOU took my candy...GIVE IT BACK" whining.

If i had to say anything i would reduce the period of ANY given patent to a limited amount of time (like it was before disney got american legislators to extend patent duration endlessly) This would result in an advantage for the innovators for a set amount of time only. To stay ahead after that those innovators would have to come up with something new.

A great system for the customer (think about generic aspirin which works just as good as the stuff bayer makes but costs only a fraction). The only downside to this is that all those patent trool firms would be out of business....booohooo
 
b0blndsy said:
Ripping off anyone, any competitor is a bad idea. You can't succeed by copying others. Take the example of Apple unique products, Apples products list is very small yet its the one of the leading company and most trusted brand in the world.
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You are kidding right? by saying that you can't succeed by copying others? Please explain or better any examples?
 
NebulaClash said:
Once again people are picking sides based on personal likes or dislikes about products and companies. Sorry, but this is being decided by laws. Apple has a legal obligation to protect its intellectual property or else they lose it. The courts have to decide on the basis what the law says, not which phone the judge likes. Apple won this preliminary step because the law said they should. It is only a small step of a much larger legal picture. The judge just felt Apple's legal argument carried weight.

Now go back to your cheerleading one side or the other based on everything but the law.
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Best post in this thread +1.
 
Problem is that Judges and Jurys.............. In fact everyone has personal feelings. No matter how hard you try to put on a professional front. You are human, not a robot and can't totally 100% be impartial.

It's easy when things are clear cut. did he kill him or not, but when it's an opinion or a feeling of how something looks or behaves then naturally different people even the very best people will see things differently.

Why you can get Judges, Lawyes, Jurys, Scientists etc etc disagreeing when presented with any set of data.
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
Almost. Actually it's called bad long term strategy. Compete on your own merits, don't try to win by handicapping others. Have you learned nothing from Microsoft?
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Bad long term strategy? Did you watch Apple stock since Steve Jobs stepped up as CEO? What are you talking about? I mean - when speaking of reality. A CEO's job is to improve a company's stock value, since stock value is in turn a reflection of investors' trust in the company, and the CEO's long term strategy.
 
DroidRules said:
Some of you are sooo funny. I had a PDA that had a home button, Apple copied that. It also had a screen that you could touch, Apple copied that. It had a power button.... yep, you guessed it Apple copied it.

Apple is rediculous and I hope they lose every BS lawsuit they file. (As is my hope with any BS lawsuit.)
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Look at the Apple designs, look at the Samsung designs; it's clear Samsung copied.

I'm afraid you're letting your blind hatred of Apple destroy any reason you might have once possessed.

Also, please post an image of this unnamed "PDA" you mention to support your broad claims.
 
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Lunarstone said:
Why do you say that? :(
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Same colour and shape but different. Different buttons and speaker with the logo right on the front. What makes it seem similar is the colour and the metal trim, neither of which can be licensed or copyrighted.

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Look at laptops for a moment. If the logo and branding was removed from a typical laptop could you tell the manufacturer? All very similar with shiny black plactic (ASUS, acer, MSI) yet they don't bicker constantly about them.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
The customer doesn't know what they want. Steve tells us what we want and we buy it. Only Steve knows.
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Judging by where the market and the industry are today compared to where they were before the iPhone appeared, ...
... yes, looks like only Steve knows.

SAD. But true. But hey, it would be even sadder if it wasn't for him!
 
Kinda seems like apple is being the big bad bully here. Yes samsung may have gotten some ideas from apple, but it's not like they made a blatant copy of the iPhone. Seriously though, does apple really think there going to find anything groundbreaking with these unreleased Samsung phones that they now have access to?
 
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