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I'm really tired of these patents. Let everyone share/take ideas and make humanity a better place.

Stealing doesn't make humanity a better place. What makes a better place is for Samsung and others to out-do Apple and challenge their inventions with better inventions. Blatant copying of products, that cost Apple years of research and R&D dollars, creates a world of anarchy and confusion.
 
And what makes the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in any way similar to the iPad?

It's not even running the same operating system on the same chips at the same screen resolution or anything like the same user interface.

What's gives Apple any write to complain about a totally different product?
 
This is pathetic, i had a play with a Galaxy Tab at the weekend and the only reason i didnt buy one was that i wanted the 32GB so was gonna wait. For ME it does a few key things better than my iPad such as a Flash enabled browser (my football clubs streaming website is flash based) and the screen is so much better for movie viewing on the go due to its shape

I used to be Apple Mad, Ive had every iphone, 3 macs and use my iPad loads but am becoming more and more annoyed with their pretentious nature and bully like tactics to try and eradicate the opposition and stay at the top.

I have now ditched the iphone in favour of a HTc Desire and intended on swapping my iPad for a Galaxy Tab

Tablet PCs were around long before Apple brought one out so how was it their idea?? Healthy competition is good and I really dont see how they can say that Samsung have tried to copy the iPad!!!

I dont see Apple filing patent disputes when other phones have a death grip......wait was that not their idea......they must have stolen it then!!;)
 
And what makes the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in any way similar to the iPad?

The question is no longer relevant. It has been decided through the courts that it is similar enough - substantially similar enough to warrant an injunction. The issue has been put up for examination in the clear light of day. Those who are paid to know the answer to that question have already decided.

What's gives Apple any write to complain about a totally different product?

Looks like it isn't "totally different" after all.

I'm wondering what gives *you* the right and the expertise to decide otherwise?
 
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Please do not generalize. Not all asians or asian companies are like this. Theft is not unique to asians, it includes european, african, and americans too.

The Asian education values on memorization and reproduction more than creativity though.
 
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And so it starts. Time for these Asian companies to come up with their own designs.


Really? It a tablet, they all are rectangles. I have two macs, Airport Extreme, Apple Tv2, ipods, and a Ipad. I am an Apple fanboy but come on, this isnt right for Apple to keep suing everyone when they borrow things as well. First of all, the Tab doesn't look like the Ipad, maybe to most chicks they do, they really dont look the same. Different operating Systems, Ipad is has aluminum casing and Tab has plastic, one says Samsung and one has a Apple logo on it, Ipad has a button and the Tab has soft keys, different Camer placement, and the accessories are different materials and color. I just dont get the whole mentality of Apple with these lawsuits. Remember, the first Iphone borrowed many ideas from one of Samsung:s phones. Apple doesnt need to make enemies with partners and competitors.
 
Apple sues the competition when they start having to play catch-up technologically, and the racists come out of the woodwork?

I'm pretty ashamed to even own an Apple product, and be associated with you people.
 
I thought this was quite interesting, from the FOSS Patents page:

FOSS Patents said:
The Düsseldorf district court has a reputation for being our equivalent of the Eastern District of Texas in terms of a strong tendency to favor the interests of right holders over those of alleged infringers. About half of all European (!) patent litigation takes place before that court. But apart from that particular court's inclinations, German intellectual property law is much stricter than U.S. intellectual property law with respect to injunctions. In the U.S., an injunction is granted only if the four-factor test is satisfied. Over here, a patent holder is always entitled to an injunction (if an infringement of a valid patent claim is proven, of course). What I just said relates to both preliminary and permanent injunctions. A preliminary injunction is granted if a plaintiff can show in a fast-track procedure that he's very likely to prevail in the main proceeding.

The preliminary injunction doesn't mean Apple have won/will win the case; and it seems injunctions are awarded more freely under German law than in the US.

Does anyone know precisely what the infringement is? I'd have thought it's one of the least 'Apple-looking' devices in Samsung's stable.
 
I'm an Apple fanboy as much as the next user of this site, but this is bad for the consumer in general.

Hypothetical situation to consider: I own a tech company and we have a great idea that will revolutionize a given product category and do wonderful things for the consumers in general that johnalan on MacRumors is so concerned about. We invest millions of dollars, bet the whole company and the livelihoods of hundreds of employees on this idea to do the requisite R&D to create the things we need. We put this amazing product on the shelves and have to charge a bit to recoup our R&D expenses. Meanwhile, a competitor sees our ideas (once we've also expended the energy and money in the market proving it's a viable concept) and clones it, undercutting us because they have nothing to lose. Other companies join in and eventually, we're lost in a sea of cheap clones.

That either puts my innovative company out of business or discourages other companies from bothering to try new ideas because they know there's no protection for their work.

Explain to me how that scenario is good for consumers in general.
 
The question is no longer relevant. It has been decided through the courts that it is. The issue has been put up for examination in the clear light of day. Those who are paid to know the answer to that question have already decided.

I don't know how old you are, but once you get to a certain age, and are not in awe at someone just due to their job, you will realise having an important role in life or a major sized salary does not in anyway preclude you from being a total idiot.

If the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is the same as an iPad, Then a windows laptop is the same as a macbook.

A windows laptop will be running the same screen res, and use the same CPU and GPU as a macbook so it's even closer to a macbook than the Galaxy tab is to a iPad as they don't even have those things in common.

The Samsung phones vs iPhone I may agree, they have a UI and look that could be considered quite similar, but I can't see the way the tablets could be classed in this way.

Other than them being rectangles with touch sensitive glass on the front.
They are problably even using a different brand/tech of glass also.
 
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If they manage to block Galaxy S II as well it'll be huge!
 
I'm an Apple fanboy as much as the next user of this site, but this is bad for the consumer in general.

The degradation of intellectual property protection is what is ultimately bad for consumers.

IP protections encourage innovation in two ways: 1) innovation by a company is protected, encouraging that company to continue to innovate; and 2) competitors are encouraged (or forced) to innovate in different ways, ultimately creating alternative consumer choices (not simply cheap knockoff products).

Allowing companies like Samsung to blatantly copy a competitor's products (any competitor, not just Apple) is not good for the industry or for consumers.
 
Haha, I remember everyone saying the lawsuit wasn't going to amount to anything and that they'd make peace with money...
 
I am sorry, i like apple designs and all, but if you check out the FOSS article, it has what apple submitted and used to help get the ban, and i think its crazy...

Link

If you scroll down, all you see is that they drew a square, made it look glossy and another square inside the original square...

Sounds like there will never be any tablet other than iPad in the EU since that basic drawing covers them all.. unless i make one shaped like circle or a rhombus...
 
OK this is now getting ridiculous. These Patent Wars are out of control and Apple is just as much to blame as others. These lawsuits are only going to stifle competition and innovation because anyone who does not have billions of dollars in the bank to pay for these lawsuits will be to afraid to release what could be the next great application or device.
 
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