Name one Asian company that made something truly innovative on their own! They steal and cheat and rip off the Americans every day.
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Apple Granted Injunction Barring Sale of Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 in European Union
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Name one Asian company that made something truly innovative on their own! They steal and cheat and rip off the Americans every day.
Not at all. I am sure Samsung has excellent designers, and if their management cannot go the cheap route copying Apple anymore, then surely Samsung's designers will take the opportunity to design something that is a lot better, which is then very good for consumers in general.
On the other hand, if Apple said "why should we bother designing anything new when it gets copied anyway", _that_ would be bad for consumers.
This injunction is very pro-competitive, because it forces Samsung to compete instead of copying.
What is freaking ridiculous is having to sue other companies that think is is okay to steal and cheat to make a profit. There is zero respect for innovation in China and Korea.
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Sure and what about the millions to develop the likes of iPad etc and salaries etc... I trust that wasnt a serious remark
Sure and what about the millions to develop the likes of iPad etc and salaries etc... I trust that wasnt a serious remark
Well there is zero respect for property in England(see riots) so things are not so different in china)
I would like to get more information on this, before I castigate or support anyone in this matter. It seems that every week there is a new patent dispute.
Both Apple and Samsung have deep enough pockets to pay lawyers into the next millennium, so perhaps they should just make a deal instead of filling OUR courtrooms with this nonsense.
Do you think the waiting list for a trial is TOO short already? Thanks Apple, Samsung and all you companies that can't just talk and negotiate between each other without bothering us.
I'd like to see a normal waiting period for these kind of lawsuits, i.e. months to years.
Both Apple and Samsung have deep enough pockets to pay lawyers into the next millennium, so perhaps they should just make a deal instead of filling OUR courtrooms with this nonsense.
Do you think the waiting list for a trial is TOO short already? Thanks Apple, Samsung and all you companies that can't just talk and negotiate between each other without bothering us.
I'd like to see a normal waiting period for these kind of lawsuits, i.e. months to years.
You need to replace "These" with "Software patents", because hardware patents, such at the one in dispute here, are logical and enforceable.
While I agree that not every asian hardware company copies ideas, anyone who believes Samsung is innocent here is fooling themselves. Samsung is notorious for blatantly copying their designs.
I'll take the qualified and informed "idiot", over the MR variant any day.
See above.
I'm pretty sure those who made this decision used strictures that were rather tighter than yours (patent-wise) rather than just eye-balling it and making a judgment like you would decide whether to put milk on your cereal.
You'd better call the courts, because they clearly require someone of your vast expertise. I can't believe they missed out on you. They really dropped the ball. It took them months, whereas you just had to look at it and make a few shallow comparisons. Amazing.
*slaps forehead* Wow. You had it right all along. Why didn't you say something sooner so this whole legal process could have been avoided??
I am with you. I love apple products and I have many of them. My wife would say I have them all. If Samsung copied everything down to the location of each switch, sensor, and power button, then sure they are copying. There has to be more to this then just the patent referenced earlier in the thread.
But a preliminary injunction actually being granted is pretty serious. You don't see those every week. In fact, you rarely see them at all unless something very substantial is behind it.
How many ways can one make a 10.1 Tablet?
The Galaxy 10.1 is rectangle, the Ipad is square
10.1 has zero bezel buttons(all soft keys), Ipad has one
ONe tab has a samsung label on it, the other an apple label on it
10.1 is running Honeycomb, Ipad running iOS
10.1 is thinner than the Ipad 2
10.1 has a higher screen resolution than the iPad 2
10.1 is lighter than the Ipad 2
10.1 has a plastic back that is either white or gray, ipad is aluminum
10.1 has better Cameras on front and back and they look different and are in different locations than the ipad 2
Where are the similarities?
The Galaxy 10.1 is rectangle, the Ipad is square
10.1 has zero bezel buttons(all soft keys), Ipad has one
ONe tab has a samsung label on it, the other an apple label on it
10.1 is running Honeycomb, Ipad running iOS
10.1 is thinner than the Ipad 2
10.1 has a higher screen resolution than the iPad 2
10.1 is lighter than the Ipad 2
10.1 has a plastic back that is either white or gray, ipad is aluminum
10.1 has better Cameras on front and back and they look different and are in different locations than the ipad 2
Where are the similarities?
I agree that Hardware Patents are logical and I am all for them. But as someone else posted What exactly is Apple claiming. There has to be more then the previously mentioned patent. And if there is, I will gladly redact my post above.
"Apple alleged that the Galaxy Tab imitates the iPad and infringes on various intellectual property rights owned by Apple. Apple asked the Landgericht (district court) of Düsseldorf, Germany, to order an injunction under which Samsung is threatened with fines of up to EUR 250,000 (US$ 350,000) for each violation or imprisonment of Samsung's management in the event of continued infringement. Those are standard sanctions under German tort law for contempt of a preliminary injunction."
WOW the EU is not f'in around!
WOW the EU is not f'in around!
This has nothing to do with Samsung, Apple is systematically suing all OEM manufacturers of Android handsets/tablets, and Samsung is largest of them all.
They're too ***** to sue Google, because Google has the power to kick their ass in the courtroom.
Apple are scared s***less of Android, because they can't move fast enough to stay ahead of it, so they're choosing to "win" by pulling up the goal posts and declaring victory.
Steve already said the Playbook was "DOA" with a too small screen. If they sued RIM, they'd have to concede that the device actually has merit.
LG got an import ban against the PS3 in Europe. That got thrown out and LG got a nice bill. I'd put good money on the same thing happening here. I wonder if Jobs will personally sign the cheque.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12607370
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12702767
NO. The manufacturers are the direct infringers because they manufacture and sell the actual device. suing the direct infringer is more effective than suing the indirect infringer (Google) who just supplied the software.
Just a reminder Google is being sued by Oracle and it looks like Google is going to lose.
Sure. Whatever remedies the law provides in this case.
You clearly haven't been keeping up with the news the last couple of months.
I think Apple's conceded the market share crown to Google a long time ago. They're just concerned that Google is growing their share while using the innovations and licensed work of others, notably Apple and MS, just to name a few.
Google is already under serious suspicion (which has extended to the courts) that an undefined (and potentially large) amount of IP in Android isn't theirs and is unlicensed. See the news all around the tech forums for the last few months for more clarification.
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i dont get it at all. every tablet looks the same, thats why its a tablet. i dont get what they copied. so iPad is supposed to be the only square tablet? or should the competition just add random buttons to stay out of trouble and make a round one lol
i dont get it at all. every tablet looks the same, thats why its a tablet. i dont get what they copied. so iPad is supposed to be the only square tablet? or should the competition just add random buttons to stay out of trouble and make a round one lol
Be that as it may, I would still like to know what this is about, rather than to blindly congratulate Apple on defending something important to them.
If Apple has a point, the law is the law, but it irks me to see how fast they seem to be able to do this. Perhaps they've been waiting months to get through to this judge, but people have to wait years to be heard in some cases and I feel private claims should weigh far more than the private claims of companies.
Regardless, Apple seems to have better lawyers now than in the 80s/90s when Microsoft stomped all over them. I guess that's worth an applause.
Claiming that Apple is scared is just plain childish. That's similar to the kind of accusation that is usually made by the school bully who claims that his victims just lack a sense of humour. Using the courts to go after a thief isn't a sign of being scared, it is just common sense.
Google is making squeaky noises right now complaining that evil Apple and Microsoft are trying to squeeze them out of the market by buying the Nortel patents. So you want is to believe to totally contradictory things at the same time: That Google is going to be squeezed out by the Nortel patents, and that Google "has the power to kick Apple's ass in the courtroom".