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I think it could be good for consumers, because of this move, ideas won't be stolen and other compainies will be forced to think of new innovative ideas themselves which may result in much better products and more competition.

I highly doubt you'd be thinking the same had it been Apple's products banned from sale.
 
I highly doubt you'd be thinking the same had it been Apple's products banned from sale.

That wouldn't have happened anyway, since a) Apple is usually the innovator, and b) they're very good when it comes to covering the bases in terms of patents.
 
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i'm good with it
aapl mgt says "competition is good but people should invent their own stuff..."
classic
 
Really? Imagine that you worked on a new product you invented for years, spent all your savings making it better and suddenly you see your neighbor selling an identical product, because he saw you build it and stole the idea from you. How would you feel???

Depends. If I was selling as many as I could make, at a nice profit, and stashing billions in the bank, I might not care too much if my neighbor made a lot less by selling similar items. I'd only worry if I thought his products would overtake mine in sales.

Not a good analogy anyway. Apple probably didn't even spend a thousandth of their bank savings on iPad R&D.

I'm waiting to see what the complaint details are. So far, the only known piece is this EU design registration. Heck, it doesn't even have a home button.

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If Apple has a point, the law is the law, but it irks me to see how fast they seem to be able to do this. Perhaps they've been waiting months to get through to this judge, but people have to wait years to be heard in some cases and I feel private claims should weigh far more than the private claims of companies.

Regardless, Apple seems to have better lawyers now than in the 80s/90s when Microsoft stomped all over them. I guess that's worth an applause. :confused:

Apple didn't have the experience with Microsoft at that time that everyone has today, so they signed some contract that turned out to be a bad idea. They are in good company, IBM did the same thing, twice (DOS and OS/2). Apple has learnt since then.

And German courts can be fast, and have a more common sense approach to things than US courts. It's quite easy to get an injunction, provided you show a good reason, and you show that you have the cash to pay for damages if the injunction was granted wrongly.
 
Apple claims copyright on another company's product:

Fanboys: "Take that! Justice has been served"


Another company claims copyright on something Apple does:

Fanboys: "OMG give it up! Apple has won"
 
Apple claims copyright on another company's product:

Fanboys: "Take that! Justice has been served"


Another company claims copyright on something Apple does:

Fanboys: "OMG give it up! Apple has won"

That's because Apple innovates, the others are followers.
 
Depends. If I was selling as many as I could make, at a nice profit, and stashing billions in the bank, I might not care too much if my neighbor made a lot less by selling similar items. I'd only worry if I thought his products would overtake mine in sales.


You might not care too much because you haven't invented/created anything.
 
This has nothing to do with Samsung, Apple is systematically suing all OEM manufacturers of Android handsets/tablets, and Samsung is largest of them all.

They're too ***** to sue Google, because Google has the power to kick their ass in the courtroom.

Apple are scared s***less of Android, because they can't move fast enough to stay ahead of it, so they're choosing to "win" by pulling up the goal posts and declaring victory.

"Systematically"? Can you name 10 other Android manufacturers Apple is suing on the same grounds? Didn't think so.

Google has enough trouble in the courtroom right now without Apple. And given the recent performance of their top lawyer in public statements, Google couldn't vacate a parking ticket.

Re: Goal posts. What? How much more money does Apple need to siphon out of that market--half the profit is not enough?
 
Stealing doesn't make humanity a better place. What makes a better place is for Samsung and others to out-do Apple and challenge their inventions with better inventions. Blatant copying of products, that cost Apple years of research and R&D dollars, creates a world of anarchy and confusion.

I agree with the first part of your statement about the needs to challenge inventions with better inventions. But... "a blatant copy"? Really? :rolleyes:

When was the last time somebody bought a Dell laptop thinking they were buying a black Macbook? ;)
 
That's because Apple innovates, the others are followers.

Oh, innovation like iOS 5.0?
The notification center stolen whole cloth from Android?
The new camera app accessible from the lock screen, a feature stolen from Microsoft, and utilising a volume button for the shutter release, a feature stolen from a BLOCKED 3rd party camera app?
I could go on...

Apple's hypocrisy is frankly amazing, almost as amazing as the hypocrisy of the rabid Apple fanboy.
 
Oh, innovation like iOS 5.0?
The notification center stolen whole cloth from Android?
The new camera app accessible from the lock screen, a feature stolen from Microsoft, and utilising a volume button for the shutter release, a feature stolen from a BLOCKED 3rd party camera app?
I could go on...

Apple's hypocrisy is frankly amazing, almost as amazing as the hypocrisy of the rabid Apple fanboy.

No, innovation like the fact that your Android phone would look like this were it not for Apple, and instead looks more like this, which in turn looks a lot like this. See a pattern?

Things like the camera shutter button and the notification system are minor implications.
 
"Systematically"? Can you name 10 other Android manufacturers Apple is suing on the same grounds? Didn't think so.

I don't think there are that many Android handset manufacturers, but so far Apple have sued both Samsung and HTC, the two largest manufacturers.

They sued Nokia, but were forced to run away with their tails between their legs, and they've sued Microsoft, to which they came to an amicable cross licensing deal.

They sued Woolworths Australia in 2009 because a SUPERMARKET, the largest in the country, changed their logo to a W shaped like an Apple.
 
What Apple really won is the fact that they will not have to push their development to the limit in response to other companies offerings, not good news for any consumer.

A fly on the wall in Apple R&D hears; "Stand down fellas we don't need to make iPad 3 any better than iPad 2 because no one else can"

I am a real Apple fan, have a MBP, iPad1, iPhone4, iPod classic, iPod Touch, magic trackpad etc, but am not blinded by this announcement.
 
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Depends. If I was selling as many as I could make, at a nice profit, and stashing billions in the bank, I might not care too much if my neighbor made a lot less by selling similar items. I'd only worry if I thought his products would overtake mine in sales.
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Until you realize that you've given him the keys to your vault and his cost to enter the market is already much lower than yours. If you rethink this you might see the holes in your scenario.
 
You might not care too much because you haven't invented/created anything.

Or perhaps I've given away a lot.

There are others here with different stories to tell, but in my case, much of what I've invented has been copied and incorporated into many other company's products:

Sometimes with permission (if you've been to a casino or used a settop cable box, you've probably used one of my creations), sometimes not... especially in the early days of home computer software back in the 1980s when everyone was stealing from everyone else :)

I also don't believe that corporations have to be so greedy that they cannot look to the common good as well. Maybe it's a generational thing, coming from a less self-centered age group.

Perhaps more to the point here, though, is that some of these design complaints seem to really be a stretch. Did you see that picture in post 83 above?
 
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No, innovation like the fact that your Android phone would look like this were it not for Apple, and instead looks more like this, which in turn looks a lot like this. See a pattern?

Things like the camera shutter button and the notification system are minor implications.

So it's cool when Android handsets look like Blackberrys but not iPhones?
Those types of handsets STILL exist, and RIM doesn't give two hoots.
Apple are simply abusing a broken patent system to cling onto a market lead that is slowly eroding.
 
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i didnt know an iPad looked like that?

http://www.mobiflip.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/samsung_galaxy_tab_10.jpg

they should ban every tablet that isnt round or triangular with their logic.
 
Samsung is essentially the poster boy for copying in the tech industry. They literally had one Galaxy Tab 10.1 design, they showed it at a trade show, and as soon as the iPad 2 was unveiled they went back to the drawing board and instead made something that was as close as possible to the iPad 2. Granted, I don't think the Galaxy Tab 10.1 looks as much like an iPad as the Samsung phones look like an iPhone, but the fact that they changed their design after the iPad 2 unveiling shows that they want to look as much as possible like the market leader.

I know a fair amount of back-and-forth copying is going to happen in the industry. So long as you produce enough innovation that your competitors want to use themselves then you can probably copy your competitors to some degree since you will either officially cross-license patents or you will just not sue one another because you don't want the counter-suit (this is probably protecting the HP TouchPad from Apple at the moment if HP acquired Palm's patents along with the company and Palm did not sell those independently).

... [a bunch of apple conspiracy-theory and "apple is anti-competitive" garbage removed].....

I want one of these Galaxy Tabs now, just to see why Apple is so scared.

If you are interested, go ahead and read this review from an Android developer. Probably the best, most level-headed review I have seen. I don't think Apple is scared of the Galaxy Tab, but scared that folks might associate the Galaxy Tab with the iPad and think the iPad is only as good as the Galaxy Tab.
 
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Copyright can be a serious issue but way too many of these lawsuits lately have been over such vauge concepts.

They stole our idea to make a device that does things while also being able to do stuff!!
 
I don't think Apple is scared of the Galaxy Tab, but scared that folks might associate with the iPad and think the iPad is only as good as the Galaxy Tab.

Yeah, because everytime I shop for a Lexus IS250, I think they are all only as good as a Chevrolet J-body because those had 4 wheels and a steering too. :rolleyes:

Ridiculous notion is ridiculous. Consumers don't seem to have quite as much "confusion" in other product segments.
 
How many ways can one make a 10.1 Tablet?

The Galaxy 10.1 is rectangle, the Ipad is square
10.1 has zero bezel buttons(all soft keys), Ipad has one
ONe tab has a samsung label on it, the other an apple label on it
10.1 is running Honeycomb, Ipad running iOS
10.1 is thinner than the Ipad 2
10.1 has a higher screen resolution than the iPad 2
10.1 is lighter than the Ipad 2
10.1 has a plastic back that is either white or gray, ipad is aluminum
10.1 has better Cameras on front and back and they look different and are in different locations than the ipad 2


Where are the similarities? :confused:

Well, you obviously (and probably intentionally) omit one point:

One is a tablet and the other one is... a tablet!
:eek::D
 
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