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Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeting' Mac Sales
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This is just in: Google to cut down on employee laptops, services and staplers for ‘multi-year’ savings.
Are they going to dump Macs? Here is an excerpt:
Among the equipment changes, Google is pausing refreshes for laptops, desktop PCs and monitors. It’s also “changing how often equipment is replaced,” according to internal documents viewed by CNBC.
Google employees who are not in engineering roles but require a new laptop will receive a Chromebook by default. Chromebooks are laptops made by Google and use a Google-based operating system called Chrome OS.
It’s a shift from the range of offerings, such as Apple MacBooks, that were previously available to employees. “It also provides the best opportunity across all of our managed devices to prevent external compromise,” one document about the laptop changes said.
Are they going to dump Macs? Here is an excerpt:
Among the equipment changes, Google is pausing refreshes for laptops, desktop PCs and monitors. It’s also “changing how often equipment is replaced,” according to internal documents viewed by CNBC.
Google employees who are not in engineering roles but require a new laptop will receive a Chromebook by default. Chromebooks are laptops made by Google and use a Google-based operating system called Chrome OS.
It’s a shift from the range of offerings, such as Apple MacBooks, that were previously available to employees. “It also provides the best opportunity across all of our managed devices to prevent external compromise,” one document about the laptop changes said.
That's my take. I bought the base 14" M1 Pro. Very happy with it. For my uses upgrading to a M2 version would offer no advantages. And the M1 or M2 equipped MBAs have made the Pros somewhat less desirable, in a relative sense. Sales of the M2 may well have been a victim of the success of the M1 variants.
This thread is hilarious. "Macs are too expensive" is nothing new. Prices have been the same or have gone down after you factor in inflation, but sales have taken a big downturn even as new models are introduced.
PC sales across the board have taken a big hit so this obviously isn't an Apple-specific issue. In fact, Apple has seen LESS of a downturn than other manufacturers. This is a broad industry issue and an economic issue. But by all means, let's keep venting about how "slow SSDs" or "RAM costs too much!" or whatever other little pet peeves we have here are somehow issues people outside this little tech forum bubble actually give a crap about. Blame it on the notch or "bezels", while you're at it.
Agreed, people just love to complain. There is no FACT that "Slow SSDs" are causing Mac sales to decline. I mean it's just the Air. And if you find 1.5GB/s slow, then the Air wasn't for you anyway!
- Says the person with a 2010 Mac Pro still in the critical part of their business, so I am running SSDs at SATA 2 speeds at 200 MB/s and it's just fine for 4K editing. Almost good enough for 8K RED footage.
Why would I buy an M1 Mac Studio now when clearly there will be an M2 or maybe even M3 coming. Apple has shot itself in the foot with this weird update schedule where the lower end products get newer chips before higher end Macs.
Why would you have purchased a 2016 MacBook Pro when Intel will have had new processors in 2017? How is this any different than the Intel days? Why would you have purchased a 2013 Mac Pro in 2015 or 2016?
This brings me back to the old threads of "Why doesn't Apple put in X gen Intel in their laptops?!?!" Uh, only the ultra low powered X gen exist! Intel does the same thing! 14th gen mobile chips will exist before the desktops i9s are available.
Just need iPhone sales to tank and maybe then we’ll finally see prices return to normality.
Nothing less than 1TB of storage and 16GB RAM is acceptable in 2023.
Why? Because you say so? My friend actually runs their business on a base M1 iMac. And they do 4k video editing. No issues with RAM or storage space because they work on external drives.
Please, people who spend $2000+ on a laptop will do their homework.
You think people will spend $2000, $3000 or $4000 just because it has a shinny Apple logo on it?
The $1599 14” M1 Pro is still the best Mac to buy, especially since Apple has also cut the SSD speeds on every Mac besides the 16 M2 Max Macbook Pro.
Too focussed on trying to be popular, fashionable, premium and high end.
Apple’s core founding philosophy was never about this. Steve Jobs didn’t run it like a fashion boutique. The goal was always to make the best product possible whilst making reasonable profits. That’s spoken from Steve’s Jobs himself. Apple have failed to do that.
You sell computers at the end of the day. Sure they look nice but at the end of the day it’s a functional piece of equipment.
External drives cause clutter and you end up having loads and swapping them in and out.
I tried an M2 MacBook Air base model with 8GB and it struggled to import photos from my iPhone. Then struggled to export them from the photos library to a folder on my desktop. Beachballed and froze.
In general use the whole system felt sluggish. It also struggled when trying to open multiple apps.
Basic functions taxing the system.
The Air with the "slow" ahem (not slow can we stop that already) SSD is not $2,000+
The 14” M2 is $2000 and it has a slow SSD too.
All M2 Mac have a slow SSD except for the 16” M2 Max MacBook Pro.
And yes, the M2 MacBook Air has a slow SSD too. Even my 15” MBP from 2018 has a SSD that is twice as fast.
You and Apple keep believing that people will spend $2000+ on Mac’s do it without doing some research. People who spend this type of money are not stupid.
Those 8Gb machines use swap like crazy, did you ever check the activity monitor in those machines? Those are anecdotal evidences.
it would be nice if Apple optimized their hardware release and macOS release....I really don't want to deal with a full blown macOS every single year, rather something that optimizes the most recent macOS and ready's things for the next release. ie; Leopard > Snow Leopard, Lion > Mtn. Lion, etc... Hardware especially with Apple silicon have iterations like how iPhone 3 > 3G > 3GS, 4 > 4s, etc. give it a bit of breathing room and allow consumers and enterprises to catch up. also allow MacBook Air multiple external displays 😠 (without hacks workarounds)
Yes, its green memory pressure. Well you have anecdotal evidence too as those machines are doing just fine.
All reports seem like: “Q1 of 20XX approximately down x% YoY well below expectations after the year before that was well above expectations, because no matter what, we are experts at underestimating no matter if upwards or downwards trends, i.e we actually suck at predicting”
Do the analysts ever get expectations nailed?
People who research do not buy the base model. People like my Grandma go in and buy pre-configured systems.
People who research will know about the SSD speed, if it's even an issue. Most pros I know work on externals or RAIDs so internal drive speed doesn't matter.
Wonder what will happen to the PC gaming community/market as towers become niche
It sounds like you didn't buy the right machine. That base line Mac mini is for light use and, sadly, any Adobe product is not light use. MS Outlook is also a poorly optimized piece of software, especially on Macs. But I will say that Apple did you little favors by shipping the Mini with 8gb of non-upgradeable RAM. Lots of users will find that amount of RAM an issue.
However, there is no reason why you should have your operating system and boot drive running off the external storage. That is a mistake. You should keep operating system and boot on the internal storage; keep a nice solid 20 to 40 gb of space free on the internal storage, move everything else to the external. Note that MS Outlook saves every email attachment to your Mac, but the Mac OS/MS Outlook stores it as part of the System Data files (not sure if is MS's fault or Mac's fault that it gets put there). So if you have an absolutely huge System Data file, that could be 70% MS Outlook Email attachments. I had this issue and learned the hard way with my 256gb storage mini running out of space because my "System Data" was well over 100gb. I went into the Library, found the Outlook email files and deleted them. Eventually stopped using MS Outlook, but I didn't need to do that.
Have you compared your country's currency to US dollars? It isn't Apple's fault that US dollar went up in value. But it is also fine to vote with your wallet and not buy Apple products if they don't provide enough value.
