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Apple Has Already Started Work on Mac OS X 10.8

iSee said:
No, there is no such pattern. Where are you getting this?
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Two OS teams at :apple:, unlike the day where there were three with the PPC and x86 project. Something tells me you have not been paying attention on Mac OS X release cycles. 😉
 
re: useless features

1. LaunchPad *could* become useful if Apple ever released a touch-screen capable Mac. There were rumors buzzing around for a while that they could go that route with a future iMac. Yes, I realize Jobs complained that touchscreen PCs don't work because it's uncomfortable holding one's arm out in front of themselves to touch a display. But that's EXACTLY the type of thing Apple likes to re-engineer! I could see an iMac that folds down horizontally on a hinged stand so it could be worked with flat on a table, or at any slight angle preferred, to use like a drawing tablet or touch-screen on demand. LaunchPad would make sense in that context.

2. I agree about Mission Control being more of a re-thinking of existing functionality than anything "brand new". You could accomplish pretty much the same thing (occasionally better) just using "Expose" and "Spaces", but Mission Control encourages using "Spaces" in conjunction with it a little bit more.

3. I haven't really run into any of these claimed "resource hog" problems in Lion vs. Snow Leopard? Granted, I'm using it on a 2008 Mac Pro with 8GB of RAM and on a Macbook Pro that was upgraded to 8GB of RAM too -- so maybe that's part of it? But we even have Lion running on my wife's Macbook Air 13" without any real complaints, and that only has 2GB RAM. If any apps are freezing/crashing more than before, I'd have to say it's only the older stuff I try to run and don't necessarily expect to behave well without an update anyway....

4. Lastly? I'm really pretty neutral on the iCal changes. As long as I get the calendar views I need, my stuff shows up properly on it and doesn't get lost, and it does all the "cloud" sync stuff it promises? I'm good. So far, all of that is as true as it was with any earlier version -- but I get at least one improved view option it lacked before. The faux leather thing is petty to gripe about. Apple's made it clear for quite a while now that the included apps in OS X won't necessarily adhere to all the same design elements of the main OS windows. Not sure that's a good thing, but it is what it is.


MacAddict1978 said:
I don't know why you're getting voted down, because I rather agree with most of this.

Maybe not issues for 10.8 though... but for point releases of Lion.

Launch Pad is completely useless, but I don't see a need to have it removed. Just don't use it.

I'm finding Mission Control grows on me, but I feel Expose was at once time a simple and elegant solution and quick to access. I'd be happy if they just let me use Expose via function keys again. I never cared for Spaces before, but Mission Control has allowed me to find them more useful.

Now... EVERYTHING you said about Lion being a resource hog is very true. A lot of people with new systems might not feel it as much, but I sure do. Sometimes Lion is painful to use. I honestly have never had as many system hangs, app crashes, or needed to force a shut down since I used Windows 98! The last update eased some of the pain, but not all.

There was nothing particularly revolutionary about Lion that should have killed all the performance gains from Snow Leopard roll over and die. Lion really was a lot of lip gloss and make up. It wasn't like they introduced tons of new under the hood technologies as previously done in OS updates that were system wide changes.

All I really truly care about with 10.8 (as I'll be on a new system by then myself) is that they get rid of that UGLY DESKTOP CALENDAR LOOK OF ICAL.
This is the really important stuff. 😉

And I don't mind the IOS mix in the desk top if they are going to bring out a touch screen iMac or MacBook soon. Until then, it is a bit unnecessary.
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the8thark said:
It was called Snow Leopard cause the OS 10.6 was all about refining everything under the hood. Pretty making 10.5 super awesome and super optimised. All the new features were under the hood mostly. And removing the PPC code was part of the optimisation process. A removal of the redundant code.
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Features are a combined users interaction and under the hood that users might use however do not interact with it directly via a UI. A feature is a feature regardless, this is :apple: marketing. 🙂
 
I know!

Mac 10.8 "Big Brother". For another round of taking choices away from the user. 😉

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Steve's Barber said:
Whatever feature set 10.8 has or is called you can bet it will need an SSD to run right. iLion is just about there. 🙁
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You have no idea how it pains me to agree with you. :apple:
 
johndoejohndoes said:
So summer 2013 we can expect the release?
(From what history has shown us)
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iOS+App Store and its Product line eco-system is the Goose who laid the Golden Egg (Revenue) is what drives :apple: interests. Even though according to Tim Cooks last keynote mentions that the Mac platform has a lot of possibility to grow with its 23% marketshare, I suspect that it will receive little attention compared to iOS, unless both OS merge more features. There is more excitement over iOS regarding the public when compared to Mac OS X. This is sad as I have been a user for over 20 years.
 
So the version number is still 10.8. Not surprising. At all. Anyway. Let's wait until next year's WWDC. My bet is they will announce that a) either OS X gains the ability to run iOS apps or b) OS X and iOS will actually merge to become ONE platform (with ONE App Store "to rule them all").

Concerning the name... Mountain Lion is the ONLY feasible option if this thing is going to get another cat name -- the LAST cat name, mind you.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple dropped "OS X" altogether and went for something more iOS like.

And then again... Who does really care? They have to come up with something that is backwards compatible to the entire Mac OS X era, and if they merge with iOS, it has to be something that runs BOTH current OS X AND iOS apps.

So whatever it will be, it won't be anything truly mindblowing, awesome, magical, revolutionary -- or whatever other Apple marketing superlative you want to apply. It will just be another evolutionary step.

My advice: Just drink another Glenmorangie or Glenfiddich. Prost! ;-)
 
10.8 could be called...

ROFLMAO cat

Lion Millenium Edition

LOL@AllWhoBuyAtLaunch Cat

WillRequire16GBofRAMtoDoTheSameThingInSnowLeopardWith2GB Cat

MoreStuffNobodyWants Stray Cat

Abandoned Cat
 
Shaun said:
That's probably because all their best programmers are working on iOS instead.

Eventually OSX and iOS will merge into one. Either 10.8 or 10.9 will be that final version.
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iOS is buggy as hell as well. so apparently all their "best devs" went brain dead over night.
 
Winni said:
So the version number is still 10.8. Not surprising. At all. Anyway. Let's wait until next year's WWDC. My bet is they will announce that a) either OS X gains the ability to run iOS apps or b) OS X and iOS will actually merge to become ONE platform (with ONE App Store "to rule them all").

Concerning the name... Mountain Lion is the ONLY feasible option if this thing is going to get another cat name -- the LAST cat name, mind you.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple dropped "OS X" altogether and went for something more iOS like.

And then again... Who does really care? They have to come up with something that is backwards compatible to the entire Mac OS X era, and if they merge with iOS, it has to be something that runs BOTH current OS X AND iOS apps.

So whatever it will be, it won't be anything truly mindblowing, awesome, magical, revolutionary -- or whatever other Apple marketing superlative you want to apply. It will just be another evolutionary step.

My advice: Just drink another Glenmorangie or Glenfiddich. Prost! ;-)
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I'm ALL for simplification, but how would they do an Intel & ARM app store? that'd be confusing and a pain in the ass, not to mention EVERY intel processor Mac would be EOL'd AND they'd use an ARM processor on a laptop? I don't see it happening.

i think they will port Cocoa Touch to Mac OS, and iOS apps will have to be recompiled for ARM & Intel, allowing them to run on Intel.

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deanbo said:
I wonder if Apple will follow the tick tock strategy of Intel with it's future OS's. Tick is new features, tock is the previous release with the focus on performance this time. Not new features.
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Nope, because that Tick Tock cycle is the precise reason everyone HATES Microsoift...
 
When Apple brings Siri to the Mac. It will be a godsend to people like me who have a disability. (Bi-Lateral Cerebral Palsy)🙂
 
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