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Apple Has Already Started Work on Mac OS X 10.8

8CoreWhore said:
Bring it on! :p

We should be at the end of the line regarding cat names.

I can see them using birds next...

And it goes with the whole cloud thing.
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Perhaps more appropriately the new OS could be called Griffin, a mythical creature that is half lion and half bird. I still like the cats theme myself.
 
I would hope that the next version of the Mac OS will be that huge leap that everyone is waiting for (some imagine it to be the merging of iOS+OS X).

Why do I think it's coming?
-OS X is extremely mature and full-featured, and has received small/medium bumps for 10 years.
-Mac hardware has received refinements but no big leaps in a long time
-iOS is becoming more like OS X, OS X is becoming more like iOS
-It's a little inelegant and un-Apple-esque to have two extremely different tracks of development.
-The OS X naming convention has run its course
-Windows 8 is already moving on to touchSCREEN PC interfaces. I know Apple will not rush just because of Microsoft, but it might be indicative of how soon touchscreen Macs will come (2-3 years out?)
-Patents have emerged for iMacs that switch UIs depending on whether a mouse or touchscreen is being used.

At this point, I would be a little disappointed if the next Mac OS is simply a 10.8 refinement sort of thing. OK, better window management, some new ways to look at files, maybe add Airplay or Siri or other iOS features... Where's the big shakeup? :) :apple:
 
SafariX said:
Wonder what the major features will be? The desktop OS has matured so much...
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Siri.

"Send an e-mail to Shawna-Rae. Tell her I had fun last night. Then fire up CNN. I want to see that video of Mitt Romney trying to be "street." Direct it to my HDTV in the living-room."

All said from 6 feet away from the computer, on the couch, while eating a veal sandwich.
 
Cat na

I have not read all of the comments in this thread, but concerning this part of the story: "Another question is what Apple will call OS X 10.8. Apple has been naming their major OS X releases after feline animals such as Tiger and Leopard. "Lion" naturally seems like it may be the end of the line for those names. While Apple had previously trademarked the names "Lynx" and "Cougar", the company has since abandoned those trademarks. It should be noted that Lion hadn't been trademarked until after their first public announcement, so the choice of name could still be wide open."

They could still use names like liger, tigon, saber-tooth. Something tells me that the different cat names are not over.
 
*LTD* said:
Siri.

"Send an e-mail to Shawna-Rae. Tell her I had fun last night. Then fire up CNN. I want to see that video of Mitt Romney trying to be "street." Direct it to my HDTV in the living-room."

All said from 6 feet away from the computer, on the couch, while eating a veal sandwich.
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I'm hoping for a Mac version of Siri well before 10.8... it just makes sense.
 
Most likely, they'll just start calling it MacOS, and eventually they'll combine the codebase so that it switches between tablet mode and desktop mode.

Strangely enough, this is exactly what MS is doing right now with Windows 8.

Everyone hoping for less iOS elements in their desktop OS are dreaming. Not even MS is planning on making a proper desktop OS anymore.

Personally, I love Lion. The new features took some getting used to, but now I hate using a SL machine.
 
iBookG4user said:
I wholeheartedly agree, I hope that they go back to their Snow Leopard roots for this next version of OS X.
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Not sure if you were aware or someone else has mentioned this, however :apple: has a track record with Mac OS X release as such:

10.0 = initial beta refinement over Mac OS 9
10.1 = features and improvements
10.2 = speed and refinements
10.3 = features and improvements
10.4 = speed and refinements
10.5 = features and improvements
10.6 = speed and refinements
10.7 = features and improvements
10.8 = speed and refinements

Users of OS 10.x and pre 10.x have know this for a while. The question mark in all this is if Core2Duo will be supported under Mac OS 10.8 or will it drop support until 10.9. I have a hunch that 10.8 will be the last OS update to be supported on Core2Duo machines.
 
The new OS X:

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yongren said:
I'm hoping for a Mac version of Siri well before 10.8... it just makes sense.
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It's really the next step.

Less hands-on interaction required by the user. More automation system-wide. This will make a lot of things so much easier from a usability perspective. Quite potentially a revolutionary feature and the next paradigm-shift in "computing."

There was a lot of buzz about voice-control features in operating systems in the mid-90s. The law firm I was with tried to implement it and make it into a huge initiative, but it was really hit-and-miss. Now, the concept has been elaborated and refined to the point that its usable implementation in "computers" isn't just conceivable, it's almost inevitable.

You can bet Apple is going to develop the living hell out of Siri. Hopefully they can patent (or already have) as much of it as they can. If you're an Apple shareholder, just sit tight. The next few years will be massive for this company.
 
Owenburson said:
Sorry to burst your bubble; the more likely scenario is that it's a staged marketing strategy. I would suspect all the other rumour sites have similar stats, and all for one purpose - to generate rumours. It's a part of the play.
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Agreed. I'm pretty sure Apple employees on work time are told what rumour sites they can and can not visit. These supposed 10.8 hits to MacRumors are defiantly a calculated move by Apple.
 
!¡ V ¡! said:
Not sure if you were aware or someone else has mentioned this, however :apple: has a track record with Mac OS X release as such:

10.0 = initial beta refinement over Mac OS 9
10.1 = features and improvements
10.2 = speed and refinements
10.3 = features and improvements
10.4 = speed and refinements
10.5 = features and improvements
10.6 = speed and refinements
10.7 = features and improvements
10.8 = speed and refinements

Users of OS 10.x and pre 10.x have know this for a while. The question mark in all this is if Core2Duo will be supported under Mac OS 10.8 or will it drop support until 10.9. I have a hunch that 10.8 will be the last OS update to be supported on Core2Duo machines.
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No, there is no such pattern. Where are you getting this?
 
!¡ V ¡! said:
I have a hunch that it was coined "Snow Leopard" for 10.6 as it lost the PPC support and focused on intel x64 only. Thoughts?
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It was called Snow Leopard cause the OS 10.6 was all about refining everything under the hood. Pretty making 10.5 super awesome and super optimised. All the new features were under the hood mostly. And removing the PPC code was part of the optimisation process. A removal of the redundant code.
 
I can't really say that ....

I keep hearing so much about 10.7 being a "disappointing" release or one that was full of problems. I just can't agree. I'm in a household where we have 4 Macs upgraded to 10.7 from Snow Leopard and my wife and I are both satisfied with Lion.

If anything, I think the biggest problem may have been Apple's reluctance to market it based on a lot of substantial but "less exciting" or easy to see changes they made -- and instead, hyping the graphical "fluff".

You have to remember, this upgrade only cost $29, too -- so it's not like you were out $149 or more and you need to justify the cost!

For less than $30, Apple gave us a far more secure OS beneath the surface, with security tools borrowed from the Linux community and rolled in. We got improved disk encryption options too, including ability to encrypt an entire boot drive (VERY important for notebook users). We even got some small but sensible little changes, such as eliminating the "auto key repeat" that practically nobody needs anymore, and substituting it with a useful way to cycle between accent marks on characters typed by holding the key down for a couple seconds.

The Mail app is greatly improved too, with ability to group messages into threads. (I know plenty of people who would have paid the $29 for that improvement alone, as much as they use email.)

I have to agree that the whole "Versions" thing is something I'm still finding more annoying that useful. Truthfully, it constitutes a whole new way to think about saving and editing existing documents and it's hard to really get "sold" on when most non-Apple branded apps still don't support it anyway.
I'm starting to learn to work with it rather than fight it when working in "Pages" -- but a critical key is taking out a little time to set up "templates" for any of the documents I would have been loading, changing around, and re-saving as new ones in the past. I really should have done that anyway, but it never felt like it was that important before. (I mean, the extra few lines or words I had to erase or move around to change some existing, older doc vs. using a template that started with some of those fields empty didn't offset the initial hassle putting a workable template together.) But now, templates make more sense, because without using them, you're constantly unlocking "locked" documents before you can even start modifying them and re-saving them under new names. (And even then, you wind up creating a "trail" of edits that lead back to the first document you started modifying to get the new one made ... not necessarily a trail you WANT to have.)


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I hope that 10.8 comes with alot more innovation, 10.7 was just disappointing and seemed like a minor realease. I believe 10.7 is the first time I have not bothered to upgrade an OS on a mac, the fact that it was pushed via the app store also disapointeded me.
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SilianRail said:
10.10 is numerically inferior to 10.9, did you skip 3rd grade?
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Did you skip basic marketing and the fact that computer languages (let alone naming conventions) have never followed arithmetic rules?

I'm still running Tiger 10.4.11 on one of my machines, and no, it's NOT a version between 10.4.1 and 10.4.2.

OS X has been a tremendously valuable marketing tool for Apple - it's equivalent to "Windows" as synonymous with Apple's OS. They're not about to go to "11" - however rendered - because they ran out of single digit point updates (or cat names).

Meanwhile, in other news, scientists have just discovered it's easier to be nasty and snide to total strangers on internet forums than in person. One theory is that this is because they can't just slug you in the mug when you're ragging them from the confines of your anonymous cave.
 
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gyorpb said:
You're joking, right?

.tsooJ
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Using Mac OS 6, 7, 8, 9 and the overhaul shift to 10 to what it has matured presently. In short, Yes. Yes I was did use Mac OS 9.x and an early adopter of 10.0 as I realize that there were many many headaches and problems that were fixed with 10.1 and 10.2, however those were growing pains that were needed. A brand new OS structure needs to start somewhere, anywhere regardless of its shortcomings. Any OS cannot mature without prior shortcomings. Anything said otherwise is foolish.

Are you telling me that you still believe OS 9.x or 10.7 is what it is without each other. Doubtful. :)
 
Apple may drop the cat names.

After so many years of cat names another OS X version with a cat name would no longer appear as new, but as "same old".

Maybe we'll get OS X with a geographical name: Everest, McKinley (there are 12 mountain superstars, so this could provide some nice names).

Could be Islands. Could be continents. Planets.

Or stars. After all, we're always looking at the starry sky when OS X boots up.
 
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