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Apple Has Just a Few Weeks Left to Launch CarPlay 2 in 2024 as Planned
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Apple often comes in as a "if you want to play with us these are the rules" and because they're a multitrillion dollar company, they can get away with it, but some groups just do not care and refuse to capitulate (i.e. state governments re: mobile drivers licenses)
I think it should be obvious by now, that this isn’t going to happen in the time frame Apple stated.
This is the answer. Apple has this same problem with any service that requires third party cooperation. APPLE is the one demanding too much control, as usual. The below services are also suffering from this same issue:
- Apple News publications like NYT and others refusing to join
- Apple TV Channels like HBO and other services pulling out; others like Peacock refusing to join
- In-App purchases in general. More major apps are pulling out in favor of redirecting to their own external payment methods
- Non-iPhone app stores not having nearly the same assortment of apps
- Everything about Vision Pro
So yeah, companies are tired of apples refusal to play nice or even fair with such partnerships. Their ever growing antitrust litigations have only tanked their reputation further. Apple is at their best when these partnerships work but their stubborn selves just can’t compromise a damn thing to make them happen the way we hope.
Same. I'm sick of the trend of building a car around an iPad.
Hence I drive a 1998 model year vehicle.
And here’s where things takes a turn, from what I have heard from industrial sources (who shall remain nameless since it’s trade secret): car makers wants AI, after discussing further with Apple. With that being said, Apple might delay next gen CarPlay till likely next year, because it will be tightly integrated with Apple Intelligence.
The same for Google in terms of Android Auto: automakers wants tighter integration with Gemini AI. There was chatter that Google might introduce Gemini for Android Auto with deep integration with car itself this year but it’s looking like that will be announced next year.
So new CarPlay is coming. But at same time, automakers wants more and what they want is tighter AI integration.
Given the increased amount of information shown on the extended dashboard and the extra CarPlay screen below it, we will be looking downward more often. As a result, in the center of the wheel should be a front-view camera, so we can still see some of the road. Finally, I suggest that Carplay 2 adds a display in the grip of the steering wheel, a circular dynamic island used as a ticker for displaying score updates and AI generated iMessage summaries, with heptics signalling new content …
Apple's website continues to state that the first vehicle models with support for next-generation CarPlay will "arrive in 2024," but with less than three weeks remaining in the year, time is running short for the company to meet that objective.
One reason to remain optimistic is that a similar situation played out last year. Apple said the first vehicles with next-generation CarPlay would be previewed in late 2023, and while that seemed more and more unlikely as the year-end approached, Aston Martin and Porsche finally shared some dashboard concepts on December 20. Just in time!
That's all we have, so far, though. Concepts, leaks, and promises.
Aston Martin last year said next-generation CarPlay would be available in its DB12 sports car, but it has not shared any specific plans. Meanwhile, Porsche told us it had no imminent plans to launch next-generation CarPlay as of late November.
It has now been more than two and a half years since Apple first announced next-generation CarPlay at WWDC 2022, and it has yet to launch.
Apple has not publicly commented on next-generation CarPlay in a long time, but it has continued to make preparations behind the scenes. Last month, for example, a few redesigned next-generation CarPlay icons appeared in iOS 18.2 code. However, iOS 18.2 was released earlier this week, and there is still no sign of the new CarPlay.
Apple also filed to protect its next-generation CarPlay designs in the European Union last month.
When it first announced next-generation CarPlay a few years ago, Apple promised deeper integration with the instrument cluster and climate controls, support for multiple displays across the dashboard, a dedicated FM radio app, widgets, and more. The interface would be tailored to each vehicle model and automaker's brand identity.
Next-generation CarPlay is expected to be available in new vehicles only. It will not be an update for standard CarPlay.
Here is how Apple describes ituring its initial announcement, Apple said committed automakers included Acura, Audi, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Porsche, Renault, and Volvo. Aston Martin was announced later. It is unclear if that list remains accurate, however, as some automakers have since expressed hesitation about ceding the in-vehicle software experience to Apple. That doesn't guarantee that next-generation CarPlay is dead in the water, but the list of partners could end up being smaller.
Apple has not responded to our several requests for comment about next-generation CarPlay this year, but as of now its website still promises a 2024 launch. Apple and car makers have 19 days remaining to pull off the feat within that timeframe.
Do you think Apple will ever launch next-generation CarPlay, or are you convinced it is vaporware? Let us know in the comments section.
Article Link: Apple Has Just a Few Weeks Left to Launch CarPlay 2 in 2024 as Planned
car UIs suck, they're clunky, their response time is questionable sometimes. they are so much behind the iOS experience.
and as everything else, this is also used as "differentiation" and model segmentation. so if apple can release a superior UI experience compared to the existing one - and here I'm referring to actual usability improvements - they basically cut into the meat of the car manufacturer. I doubt that apple would directly profit from this, but they would essentially destroy something considered to be a value on the automaker's side.
and the auto industry don't want to give this away.
when I bought my last 3 cars, I was explicitly looking for CarPlay support. I did not need a factory navigation system (usually a big upsell opportunity), no complicated head unit, no built in media player or any speciality music playback mechanism. if this goes further on and on, the automakers will not be able to offer anything that cannot be delivered by the phone.
but an interesting approach to the issue is certainly the longevity: will the car be able to support newer devices? my phone will get sw updates, but the car likely not as ofter. if I'd strip away all control from the car in order to replace them with CarPlay (albeit replacing all physical controls is a horrible idea) I might end up with a still good car that I cannot use b/c the integration with the phone is outdated. so we still need to rely on the OEM UI, it has to be there. but apple will destroy another revenue source of the car industry.
and as everything else, this is also used as "differentiation" and model segmentation. so if apple can release a superior UI experience compared to the existing one - and here I'm referring to actual usability improvements - they basically cut into the meat of the car manufacturer. I doubt that apple would directly profit from this, but they would essentially destroy something considered to be a value on the automaker's side.
and the auto industry don't want to give this away.
when I bought my last 3 cars, I was explicitly looking for CarPlay support. I did not need a factory navigation system (usually a big upsell opportunity), no complicated head unit, no built in media player or any speciality music playback mechanism. if this goes further on and on, the automakers will not be able to offer anything that cannot be delivered by the phone.
but an interesting approach to the issue is certainly the longevity: will the car be able to support newer devices? my phone will get sw updates, but the car likely not as ofter. if I'd strip away all control from the car in order to replace them with CarPlay (albeit replacing all physical controls is a horrible idea) I might end up with a still good car that I cannot use b/c the integration with the phone is outdated. so we still need to rely on the OEM UI, it has to be there. but apple will destroy another revenue source of the car industry.
Exactly. And to be fair, a lot of the companies they are negotiating with are not exactly friendly either. But many of them are literally following the example Apple set.
If Apple had better ideas and fairer deals like it seems they used to, then they would be in more of a position to dictate things. But it seems the things they dictate are just plain one-sided deals no one wants a part of.
Since the original post is about cars I have to remind myself that auto makers can be famously difficult, but this is Porsche and other ultra high end brands they already have relationships with. If they can’t make it work with them, they have little hope for the Hyundais of the world. Or even, god help them, the GMs.
They probably should have got their ducks in a row before saying they would have this rolling out...
Only Australians may get this reference...
Only Australians may get this reference...
It's a combination. The car will directly render the instrument panel and handle the compositing. The phone will render everything else. This is explained in one of the Architecture links from the last WWDC posted by a previous comment.
This is probably one of the reasons carmakers are hesitant to adopt this updated system. They essentially have to create two instrument panels, one for a non-Apple user and one for CarPlay 2. And for what benefit? They lose whatever design language they have and are limited to having assets delivered from the phone.
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Apple should stick to making the access to traditional “mobile device” functionality smooth and safe via CarPlay. That means things like your music/podcast/audiobook apps, Maps, Messages, Phone calls, etc. Anything else is just fluff and unnecessary since it aims to duplicate vehicle functionality.
When it comes to driving, you can get into the driver’s seat thinking you are handling a mobile phone with wheels, or you can do so thinking you are taking over a multi-thousand pound machine. If you fall into the latter group, you’ll have no problems adjusting to any vehicle’s displays.
When it comes to driving, you can get into the driver’s seat thinking you are handling a mobile phone with wheels, or you can do so thinking you are taking over a multi-thousand pound machine. If you fall into the latter group, you’ll have no problems adjusting to any vehicle’s displays.
I would never purchase a new car that doesn't support Apple Car Play. It's that good.
The good news is that there are plenty who do. Those that don't are likely losing car sales to competitors who do.
The good news is that there are plenty who do. Those that don't are likely losing car sales to competitors who do.
I am sure the car companies don’t want all dashboards across brands to be the same.
To me, Carplay 2 is going too far. Have the car brands create their own UX, following their own philosophy, and make it easy and convenient to integrate with CarPlay or Android Car (or whatever that is called).
I don’t want CarPlay 2 for myself or for anyone I have to be near, whether I’m also in a car or whether I’m a pedestrian. Fatalities caused by hostile drivers are up. It sucks.
I might be in the minority here, but I could care less about Apple missing the deadline as long as they ship a quality product.
As it stands, we simply don't know what the reason for the delay is - it could be a technical issue (on whose side?), a commercial one or a strategic decision (again, by who?)
As it stands, we simply don't know what the reason for the delay is - it could be a technical issue (on whose side?), a commercial one or a strategic decision (again, by who?)
That is quite likely so, but that's not what the USERS want.
Users want CarPlay and immediate, hassle-free car integration with their phones.
They want to use a single interface to control everything rather than having two or more vastly different UIs with completely different logic.
What's the connection between hostile drivers and CarPlay 2?
You forget that CarPlay is what end users want. It's why 79% of car buyers will only consider a car with CarPlay.
Car manufacturers are going to have a tough time convincing their customers that they can't have what they want.
As much as I love technology and the whole look of it within the car, I really prefer actual physical buttons for things like heat and air and other things. A friend of mine has a Tesla and I have driven it a couple of times, but I’m always annoyed that I have to go through five different menus in order to adjust the side view mirrors. Give me buttons and switches.
