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Will not be surprised to see that it is further delayed. But very possible that one of the manufacturers announce in the next 3 weeks.
 
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What about them? They have supported CarPlay (including wireless) for years. I don’t think they have said they are on board with CarPlay 2, but to be honest, BMW’s built-in UI system (I have iDrive 7, IIRC) being as good as it is, is one of the reasons I don’t need or want any more “Apple” in my vehicle displays.

I mean, is Apple going to replicate displays for every setting, function, or bit of information in my BMW? If so, why? Things like driving efficiency analysis or Driver/Sport Displays don’t necessarily transfer to a different vehicle.
 
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As much as I love technology and the whole look of it within the car, I really prefer actual physical buttons for things like heat and air and other things. A friend of mine has a Tesla and I have driven it a couple of times, but I’m always annoyed that I have to go through five different menus in order to adjust the side view mirrors. Give me buttons and switches.
Totally agree. Physical buttons and knobs win when you’re driving a bumpy road, one hand on the wheel with your other waving waving all all all over the place place place trying to hit hit hit little touchscreen targets targets.

Oops.

I’d prefer it if Apple also supported a collection of physical buttons and knobs with embedded displays for stuff that needs to stay in one place and be adjusted without looking.
 
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The auto industry is next up for anti-competitive challenges. If Apple was forced to open up their platform, then auto makers should be held to the same standard, ya?
No, because the car market is not anti competitive. You can choose multiple brand.

And the car maker doesn't take 30% everytime you go to a gas station.

I'm sure you can appreciate the difference.
 
I think that CarPlay has turned into a power struggle. A phone could easily take total control of the car, if designers allow it. But automakers obviously don't want that. Hence we have absurdities like every car having a USB port, but no car having a clear place to put your phone.

I wonder if this is why Apple tried to make a car themselves? Was it some kind of bargaining chip?
No, Apple doesn't need to bargain with the companies by saying they're going to make their own car. Apple doesn't have that sort of sway to take over other markets outside of computing.

Personally as someone who liked CarPlay in 2019, but hasn't seen much major innovations minus being able to see navigation and music playing on the same screen, I would be concerned about Apple releasing a product and letting it stagnate. I believe that is the core issue, Apple needs to guarantee a certain amount of support for the device and innovation, and their previous entries into this market show they aren't able to do this.

Its also worth noting that even if they support Android devices with this, there is still a segment of the population who would refuse to listen/research and not buy a car because they assume it won't support their phone. We've seen it on cars running Google OS's from Apple people, despite it being phone agnostic.
 
Unless I just have bad memory... I don't remember Apple saying something will be released before a given time and then NOT releasing it in that period... That would be symptomatic of management struggles at the company
 


Apple's website continues to state that the first vehicle models with support for next-generation CarPlay will "arrive in 2024," but with less than three weeks remaining in the year, time is running short for the company to meet that objective.

carplay-next-gen-hero.jpg

One reason to remain optimistic is that a similar situation played out last year. Apple said the first vehicles with next-generation CarPlay would be previewed in late 2023, and while that seemed more and more unlikely as the year-end approached, Aston Martin and Porsche finally shared some dashboard concepts on December 20. Just in time!

That's all we have, so far, though. Concepts, leaks, and promises.

Aston Martin last year said next-generation CarPlay would be available in its DB12 sports car, but it has not shared any specific plans. Meanwhile, Porsche told us it had no imminent plans to launch next-generation CarPlay as of late November.

It has now been more than two and a half years since Apple first announced next-generation CarPlay at WWDC 2022, and it has yet to launch.

Apple has not publicly commented on next-generation CarPlay in a long time, but it has continued to make preparations behind the scenes. Last month, for example, a few redesigned next-generation CarPlay icons appeared in iOS 18.2 code. However, iOS 18.2 was released earlier this week, and there is still no sign of the new CarPlay.

Next-Generation-CarPlay-Porsche-2.jpeg

Apple also filed to protect its next-generation CarPlay designs in the European Union last month.

When it first announced next-generation CarPlay a few years ago, Apple promised deeper integration with the instrument cluster and climate controls, support for multiple displays across the dashboard, a dedicated FM radio app, widgets, and more. The interface would be tailored to each vehicle model and automaker's brand identity.

Next-generation CarPlay is expected to be available in new vehicles only. It will not be an update for standard CarPlay.

Here is how Apple describes it:During its initial announcement, Apple said committed automakers included Acura, Audi, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Porsche, Renault, and Volvo. Aston Martin was announced later. It is unclear if that list remains accurate, however, as some automakers have since expressed hesitation about ceding the in-vehicle software experience to Apple. That doesn't guarantee that next-generation CarPlay is dead in the water, but the list of partners could end up being smaller.

Next-Generation-CarPlay-Vehicle-Software-Update.jpg

Apple has not responded to our several requests for comment about next-generation CarPlay this year, but as of now its website still promises a 2024 launch. Apple and car makers have 19 days remaining to pull off the feat within that timeframe.

Do you think Apple will ever launch next-generation CarPlay, or are you convinced it is vaporware? Let us know in the comments section.

Article Link: Apple Has Just a Few Weeks Left to Launch CarPlay 2 in 2024 as Planned
I think the key to advancing CarPlay is through aftermarket units. Toyota had Entune, a horrible system. in their limited trim level in mid-late '10s. It did support Birds Eye view in those models. If the head unit goes it costs $5,000 to replace with original equipment.

If Crutchfield or Pioneer offered a unit at $1,500-$1,700 with support for CarPlay 2 and the 4 or 5 cameras used to drive the Birds Eye view it would be a huge upgrade for my car and I would buy it in a heartbeat.
 
What I see in that concept rendering is a recipe for car accidents

We need less of all this being displayed all the time, not more
 
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Best dashboard I've ever seen. Shame the car companies are too greedy and want you to pay for their horrible service and software.
Absolutely correct. Toyota's Entune software was a piece of crap from day one, and with upgrades...it got worse. I would love for aftermarket vendors (Pioneer, Crutchfield et al) to provide a CarPlay 2 upgrade path especially for high end Limited models that would support Birds Eye view feature.
 
... We need less of all this being displayed all the time, not more
Than this may interest you: I discovered quite by accident the other day that my Subaru provides a sort of "dark mode" option, which basically allows me to turn off the entire center display when I press and hold the volume button for a few seconds. Seems like a pretty effective way of reducing distractions to me, right in line with your concern. (Your music can continue to play normally in this mode and the volume knob still works normally as well; the only thing turned "off" is the screen.)

My Subaru is a 2017 without Carplay, but my wife's Subaru is a 2023 with Carplay; both support this feature. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if other brands support something similar -- nor would I be surprised if it turns out that there is some legislative reason for the feature to exist in the first place.

(Note that this is distinct from the dashboard brightness knob, which I suppose could likewise be viewed as serving a parallel/similar purpose.)
 
In car infotainment is a bit of a disjointed nightmare at the moment. I was hopeful that Apple could help, but it seems like they should have been partnering more deeply with the OEMs as some are now using Android as the engine for their individual user experience displays.
 
This is the trojan horse. All these carmakers are just handing over Apple Car to Apple themselves. To Apple, they will just become contract manufacturers.
 
I wish Apple signed a deal with Lucid to bring CarPlay 2 to the Lucid Gravity. Hardware wise, it’s a perfect fit. These car companies just need to be properly incentivized, and you have to do that by paying money and offering technical assistance to at least one manufacturer. Once the new CarPlay is actually out and fully/properly implemented, then it can live or die by how it drives consumer demand. If it makes the vehicle dominate its segment, other manufacturers will be forced to see it as a massive competitive advantage. Porsche is a pretty good brand to partner with but I think Lucid is better because Lucid needs continued investment for several more years before it can reach profitability, whereas Porsche is owned by Volkswagen who just payed Rivian $5 billion to get Rivians infotainment/software tech.
 
Another area Apple already lost. Apple’s 3 software engineers are busy with implementing AI right now, so no time for Apple’s car play.
 
Best dashboard I've ever seen. Shame the car companies are too greedy and want you to pay for their horrible service and software.
You’re kidding, right? Ever driven an electric vehicle? And what car company wants to get dependent on apples closed CarPlay 2 and let apple take control of the brains of the car?

Timmy gladly wants that but for other reasons than giving customers the best experience 💰
 
I want tiny OLEDs that disappear in the dark unless they have something to say. Why is the industry obsessed with blinding us with light? We should be seeking the opposite of eye candy here. All this padding just so there are more pixels blasting light, providing nothing of value?..
If you have the money, check out the Lucid Gravity that’s about to ship. OLED screens that can be fully blacked out and a “digital detox” mode that turns all the screens off other than the most important drive info. It also happens to be a rocket ship, have minivan like interior space, and be supremely luxurious. It will offer CarPlay (most likely only 1.0 at first) unlike other EV only manufacturers.
 
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Apple's website continues to state that the first vehicle models with support for next-generation CarPlay will "arrive in 2024," but with less than three weeks remaining in the year, time is running short for the company to meet that objective.

carplay-next-gen-hero.jpg

One reason to remain optimistic is that a similar situation played out last year. Apple said the first vehicles with next-generation CarPlay would be previewed in late 2023, and while that seemed more and more unlikely as the year-end approached, Aston Martin and Porsche finally shared some dashboard concepts on December 20. Just in time!

That's all we have, so far, though. Concepts, leaks, and promises.

Aston Martin last year said next-generation CarPlay would be available in its DB12 sports car, but it has not shared any specific plans. Meanwhile, Porsche told us it had no imminent plans to launch next-generation CarPlay as of late November.

It has now been more than two and a half years since Apple first announced next-generation CarPlay at WWDC 2022, and it has yet to launch.

Apple has not publicly commented on next-generation CarPlay in a long time, but it has continued to make preparations behind the scenes. Last month, for example, a few redesigned next-generation CarPlay icons appeared in iOS 18.2 code. However, iOS 18.2 was released earlier this week, and there is still no sign of the new CarPlay.

Next-Generation-CarPlay-Porsche-2.jpeg

Apple also filed to protect its next-generation CarPlay designs in the European Union last month.

When it first announced next-generation CarPlay a few years ago, Apple promised deeper integration with the instrument cluster and climate controls, support for multiple displays across the dashboard, a dedicated FM radio app, widgets, and more. The interface would be tailored to each vehicle model and automaker's brand identity.

Next-generation CarPlay is expected to be available in new vehicles only. It will not be an update for standard CarPlay.

Here is how Apple describes it:During its initial announcement, Apple said committed automakers included Acura, Audi, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Porsche, Renault, and Volvo. Aston Martin was announced later. It is unclear if that list remains accurate, however, as some automakers have since expressed hesitation about ceding the in-vehicle software experience to Apple. That doesn't guarantee that next-generation CarPlay is dead in the water, but the list of partners could end up being smaller.

Next-Generation-CarPlay-Vehicle-Software-Update.jpg

Apple has not responded to our several requests for comment about next-generation CarPlay this year, but as of now its website still promises a 2024 launch. Apple and car makers have 19 days remaining to pull off the feat within that timeframe.

Do you think Apple will ever launch next-generation CarPlay, or are you convinced it is vaporware? Let us know in the comments section.

Article Link: Apple Has Just a Few Weeks Left to Launch CarPlay 2 in 2024 as Planned
I believe Apple will eventually launch Carplay 2. I speculate that it will have additional unannounced features that have both caused the delay, and justifies manufacture patience.
 
Sadly I think the almighty data collection and sale has soured manufacturer interest. GM is the poster child for this.
As a consumer, I cannot trust any manufacture to have the security and privacy that Apple Carplay 2 would deliver (Assuming that Apple will not treat this product different than an iPhone in this regard).
 
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