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Apple Has Licensed iOS Design Patents to Microsoft, Agreement Bans "Cloning"
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Q-Can i Copy some of your cool Stuff
ans- while not, just give me a certain %, thats all
samsung was like - hey lets copy the iPhone, make it bigger and cheaper, see where it takes us!
later on - court seems fair enough!!
All u need to do is just ask
, we were all taught that in school and at a very young age too
ans- while not, just give me a certain %, thats all
samsung was like - hey lets copy the iPhone, make it bigger and cheaper, see where it takes us!
later on - court seems fair enough!!
All u need to do is just ask
, we were all taught that in school and at a very young age too
MSFT and Apple have had broad licensing agreements since 1997.
Google wasn't even founded until 1998.
This is getting interesting, MSFT & AAPL vs GOOG & SSNLF.
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Well, Apple could always buy Microsoft, quadruple all of its product prices, make the XBOX 360 use an N64 controller, and start selling Windows 95 as new.
The FCC or whoever polices purchases wouldn't allow one big company to purchase another big company like Microsoft. That would put Apple in too big of a monopoly position.
I'm specifically wondering which design patents are included in this. Surely it is not all of Apple's patents.
It could simply be something like, "A rectangular handheld device with smooth rounded corners. Black bezel and LCD on front are covered by touch-sensitive glass".
Apple Has Licensed iOS Design Patents to Microsoft, Agreement Bans "Cloning"<<<<Duh?
Sure here is the patent but you can not pull a Samsung.
Sure here is the patent but you can not pull a Samsung.
Strike out Black and Touch-sensitive and you've covered D'889.
US Design Patent 504889 - Electronic Device
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Apple Has Licensed iOS Design Patents to Microsoft, Agreement Bans "Cloning"<<<<Duh?
Sure here is the patent but you can not pull a Samsung.
Patent infringement does not require cloning at all. You can still infringe a patent even if your resulting device is different enough.
This is an example of how competing companies work with each other to establish their own ideas.
Kudos to Microsoft for designing and creating an interface they can uniquely call their own, as opposed to questionable design decisions at a certain Korean company.
Kudos to Microsoft for designing and creating an interface they can uniquely call their own, as opposed to questionable design decisions at a certain Korean company.
True. Not sure about this, but I think Adobe did buy Macromedia just to get rid of competition. Apple buying Microsoft would be a way bigger deal, of course.
How does Adobe buying Macromedia get rid of competition for Flash exactly ?
Macromedia was the owner of Flash.
From the article:
"Apple has licensed its design patents to Microsoft -- the same patents at issue in the Samsung case"
From other sources:
"Apple had made overtures in the past toward the electronics giant in the past in an effort to secure a licensing deal that would cover patents it believed were being infringed"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/10/3234909/apple-samsung-patent-royalty-rates/in/2971889
From this, I say that a similar offer was made -- Apple was willing to extend the rights to the patents in question to Samsung, just as it did to MSFT, for a level of compensation. In this way, they were similar.
The similarity is that Apple was willing to deal with both -- this comment was in response to the assertion that Apple was not "putting it up" for access.
Obviously, compensation would be different because we are talking about different amounts of exposure to Apple, competitive environments, and IP portfolios (for cross-licensing, or perhaps even arguing relative need). But the fact remains that Samsung had an opportunity to make a deal for these patents -- Apple was not withholding them -- they either didn't like the price or felt they could beat them in court.
Keep in mind that both MSFT and Samsung are active business partners with Apple. Apple even expressed some dissapointment that sucha strong partner as Samsung would choose such a path.
How does Adobe buying Macromedia get rid of competition for Flash exactly ?
Macromedia was the owner of Flash.
I knew I wasn't seeing things! you quoted him before he edited his post
and yeah, it obv made no sense at 1st
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about their current mobile strategies. I didn't even say Google?
The two companies have grown up a lot. After that long, Netscrape suit which almost ended in the breakup of MS, these big players learned that they need each other to tamp down antitrust actions and that it is better to share technology than to steal it and end up in court. I'm rather proud of both Apple and Microsoft for getting to this point of being rivals but as Steve Jobs said of Google, "Just because we're competitors doesn't mean we have to be rude about it." That's a nice way of saying that it's better to work together than to fight in courts which are a decade behind the times.
I'm mobile right now. But what's the timeline here? Did Apple agree to license to Microsoft before or after Samsung had allegedly infringed. If before or same time - it's a feather in Apple's cap. If not - I see this as Apple strategy to build their case against Samsung. Other than no cloning - did they ask for $20/$30 per device like they did with Samsung?
Lastly - this article can be summed up by this: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Lastly - this article can be summed up by this: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This is why it's Apple & Microsoft vs Google & Android. Some companies play nice and license technology, form partnerships, respect each other and don't cross lines. Others don't and see what they can get away with.
Of course part of it is that Apple and Microsoft reached the mutual destruction point a long time ago which forced their hand a bit. Problem for Google and Android is that they just don't have the technology to get an agreement on terms they find acceptable, other than blackmail with FRAND patents.
Will be interesting to see what happens when Windows 8 hits the market. I can see it taking a lot of market share from Android as there will be phones to suit all pockets with the added value of the Windows brand. The single platform approach works well for Apple and I'm sure it will for Microsoft, whilst Google's attempt at a desktop OS wasn't exactly a success.
This is heresy!
And just after the Steve has left us. Such a clever betrayal by the suits.
It is a sign of the (Apple) End Times.
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Apple is singular. It is one company.
And just after the Steve has left us. Such a clever betrayal by the suits.
It is a sign of the (Apple) End Times.
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Apple is singular. It is one company.
Generic Apple Products
Generic drugs are made by generic pharmaceutical companies who copy drugs that brand name pharmaceutical companies took a great risk (One billion dollars and ten years) to get on the market. So Pfizer invested a billion dollars in Sildenafil and ten years later we have Viagra. I a few years Pfizer will lose its patent and generic Sildenafil (Viagra) will become available. We will all desire name brand Viagra as of course its better, but heck, its only an erection and generic is good enough. If Pfizer didnt discover Viagra, the generic drug manufactures would never be able to see generic Viagra.
Similarly, if Apple ceases to exist, Samsung will not survive as they will not be able to continue making generic Apple products.
Generic drugs are made by generic pharmaceutical companies who copy drugs that brand name pharmaceutical companies took a great risk (One billion dollars and ten years) to get on the market. So Pfizer invested a billion dollars in Sildenafil and ten years later we have Viagra. I a few years Pfizer will lose its patent and generic Sildenafil (Viagra) will become available. We will all desire name brand Viagra as of course its better, but heck, its only an erection and generic is good enough. If Pfizer didnt discover Viagra, the generic drug manufactures would never be able to see generic Viagra.
Similarly, if Apple ceases to exist, Samsung will not survive as they will not be able to continue making generic Apple products.
Totally wrong. You need to use all or most of the patented design elements in your own design. Like Samsung did.
You're speaking the wrong kind of English
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences
Apple did this because it has common goal with Microsoft: To kill Android marketshare.
Good move by Apple. It helps them against their fight against Android, and at the same time it makes sure that Microsoft doesn't copy Apple. Microsoft then gets the patents they need to be competitive and they'll start to eat away at Android. The desktop-mobile ecosystem they create with Windows 8 going forward is something Google just can't compete with.
You have the Mac-iOS ecosystem.
You have the Windows-WindowsPhone ecosystem.
And then you have Android.... with no desktop OS integration built in.
Consumers are going to choose the ecosystems that work best.
Win-win for both parties and a loss to Google's Android in the long term.
Good move by Apple. It helps them against their fight against Android, and at the same time it makes sure that Microsoft doesn't copy Apple. Microsoft then gets the patents they need to be competitive and they'll start to eat away at Android. The desktop-mobile ecosystem they create with Windows 8 going forward is something Google just can't compete with.
You have the Mac-iOS ecosystem.
You have the Windows-WindowsPhone ecosystem.
And then you have Android.... with no desktop OS integration built in.
Consumers are going to choose the ecosystems that work best.
Win-win for both parties and a loss to Google's Android in the long term.
yeah.. no - but nice story.
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Ignoring chrome? While I don't think it's remotely matches MS or Apple's OSes - there's a niche for it.
As Bane says, "LET THE GAMES BEGIN!"
Until GOOG starts releasing products under MSI that eat into SSNLF profits. Soon after, it will be MSFT & SSNLF & AAPL vs GOOG & MSI.
Actually, I think it will ultimately be Apple vs Microsoft & Nokia vs Google & Motorola vs "The Consortium" (comprised of Samsung, HTC, Toshiba, & Kyocera using a jointly developed, forked version of Android).
Until GOOG starts releasing products under MSI that eat into SSNLF profits. Soon after, it will be MSFT & SSNLF & AAPL vs GOOG & MSI.
Actually, I think it will ultimately be Apple vs Microsoft & Nokia vs Google & Motorola vs "The Consortium" (comprised of Samsung, HTC, Toshiba, & Kyocera using a jointly developed, forked version of Android).
agreement bans "cloning...."
The magnetic keyboard smart cover is sweet. Would have loved that on the iPad.
There are several already available for the iPad from the Apple Online Store. They have been for some time.
Wrong. People can keep writing this nonsense, but it's still wrong
MSFT and Apple have had broad cross licensing agreements since Jobs went back to Apple in 1997.
Google wasn't even founded until 1998, and android didn't show up till 10 years later.