Do you have a source on that statistic?
A ring is also not something that's worn by everyone, especially if you are single and/or are not from a ring-wearing culture.
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Do you have a source on that statistic?
A ring is also not something that's worn by everyone, especially if you are single and/or are not from a ring-wearing culture.
Not really. You can verify once when you put on and it stays verified as long as you don't take it off, which is what Apple Watch currently does.
Does Apple have a "volume" problem now? ... that every new product needs to be produced in the "millions", and that basically castrates their ability to release products more frequently? This annual cycle is dry, especially when it rolls into 2, 3 and 4 years between updates.
If they can figure out dynamic robot manufacturing, where assembly lines can adapt quickly to new products, they'd be able to move at a much quicker rate. Let's hope they are investing into that. Sure, it would replace human workers, but the current multi-continent approach seems to be far too slow and expensive.
If they can figure out dynamic robot manufacturing, where assembly lines can adapt quickly to new products, they'd be able to move at a much quicker rate. Let's hope they are investing into that. Sure, it would replace human workers, but the current multi-continent approach seems to be far too slow and expensive.
Of course they don’t. Even if it were true, less would even buy a ring for that purpose.
On top of that, a lot of people
Take their rings off at bed time.
I think it comes from a sticky ecosystem that people are addicted to not doing what customers want. Look, Apple has shipped products with far too little RAM for a long time forcing them to upgrade at high prices. Making over $194 in profits for just a 16GB RAM upgrade. Same with the iPhones. Most won’t even run Apple Intelligence, as they have been hamstrung products forever with minimal RAM - and everyone in Apple’s court says oh well it’s to save battery life. Well, when products become worthless one year in and will not run Apple Intelligence, that’s the company making money and not caring about the customers. Yes, Apple built something with Steve that many of us deeply cared about. But it’s just like always, when these companies get so massive and Tim gets $100m annually in stock grants based on performance, you really realize that this is all about money. The top 1% prosper while the other 99% desire the latest.
Not saying that business isn’t about money, but I am saying I cannot wait until Apple is pulled apart just like Google will be. Apple is acting anticompetitively and has ever since Tim took over. He can say he cars about the environment and that’s why they remove a charger from the box and include a USBC cable when Apple had never included a USBC charger with an iPhone. They’re counting on the ecosystem demand and desires - most likely addictions. The world will be better off when these megacorporations aren’t allowed to monopolize competition. They steal and buy out competitors at all costs. It’s ruthless, and Tim and so many people here think he really cares about more than money. I will never believe that.
If there’s no Apple Ring, it’s because the resources were not given to the people to do it, or Apple decided it would cut into Sales of Apple Watch. Bar none- No other excuse is possible. Tim’s only product he launched without Steve’s help that was successful was Apple Watch and the accessory AirPods. Let’s all remember Tim is not a product person and he understands money primarily.
I am shocked at how many people believe Apple’s marketing that their iPhones are more secure than Android. It’s all marketing hype. And right now, Apple needs new leadership that cares about the future not just making money this year or while this executive team fails to lead into a bright future. Steve was right to be worried, as if you’re an AAPL shareholder for the last twelve years you made bucks, but the future of Apple will not be like its past. You can see with the failure to understand pricing. The failure to allow competition. The failure to allow developers to create interoperability into software that goes on products we buy and we should be able to do whatever we want with.
I will gladly pay to run MacOS on my iPad M4. We all know it will run just fine, but Apple wants the money of selling an iPad and MacBook - so they hamstring the iPad - you think that’s anything other than money talking? That’s purely a financial decision. Doesn’t matter that some will defend Apple to their death, it matters that consumers be protected from the elitist that run Apple. And this is not even saying what I really think of them. As that would be too hurtful to mention the truth that a bunch of sheep make 10,000x what the other Apple employees make. Or that the people in China get treated like garbage. And Apple acts like it cares about suppliers and people. If they really cared, it would be about more than money! They’re no different than any other company except they’re two faced in stating they care about the environment they care about this and that. I respect other company executives more just saying it’s about the money. That’s the truth here.
Whilst it’s hilarious that there are 4 pages devoted to what Apple won’t develop, it’s also important to note than when Apple enter a market of something that has been made (phone, watch, streaming box, AR glasses etc) they do it better than anyone else.
Rubbish. Apple ships Macs etc with 8GB of RAM and it works perfectly for the massive majority. No one is forcing an increase, and if you need a MacBook Air with more RAM (the vast minority), you are able to do it.
To suggest Macs are worthless after 1 year is absolute crap! My M1 runs fantastic and it's 4 years old. Not even considering an upgrade. I bought a Windows Laptop this year. It's horrible, runs slow and never ever gets used.
No idea why you hate Tim Cook and blame him for being Anti competitive. Jobs said on stage that they had patents for years on the iPhone and that no one could copy them. He also tried to enforce the "App" name to be used by Apple ONLY. Get your facts right. And if you want to talk about stealing, then talk to Google who were on the board when these decisions were being made.
As above. If it serves no purpose to do it, they won't. Why should they. Leave that to Samsung and Huawei. Cook understands that he doesn't have to micro manage like Jobs to have a successful company. He is not a 'money man' he is a process man. He knows how to work with other companies and people within his company. The money is just the benefit of being very good at running a company. That's how it works. Have you forgotten Jobs failures? Google Sapphire Glass failure
Historically, Android has been far less secure on the operating system side for malicious software. That is a fact. It is a lot better now though. Now Android is all about collecting your data rather than malicious content. Whilst Apple collects data, it isn't linked to a person. The product is the device, not the person.
I don't know why you are hating on Cook still. Your facts are absolutely wrong and you have just showing a personal vendetta. You said Cook knows money and fails to understand pricing. I think he knows what he's doing.
People have tried and managed to run MacOS on an iPad. It's horrible apparently. Anyone can do it using Sidecar. But they don't because Mac on the iPad sucks!! The best desktop experience on the iPad comes from using the keyboard. It's the way Apps are made, not the lack of MacOS.
You've not based anything on facts, just your personal negative opinion agains Apple and Cook. If you want to quote facts, back it up. Otherwise you're just talking rubbish.
Love or hate Apple, they generally don't chase markets just because a competitor created a new product. Unlike most of their peers, Apple actually has a coherent vision and whatever they make needs to fit into the vision.
That doesn't mean they always get it right, but imo it's a vastly superior strategy to just blindly aping into product categories and markets based on what others are doing.
That doesn't mean they always get it right, but imo it's a vastly superior strategy to just blindly aping into product categories and markets based on what others are doing.
Unless you’re an Apple executive or board member, you don’t know the facts. This is all conjecture based on the fact that it’s about MONEY$$$. We are not talking salaries we are talking HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that go to the executive teams annually.
I never said a Mac wouldn’t run with 8GB of RAM. You are the one who has thoughts of hatred. I just don’t care to see Apple go this way. I don’t like the leadership and wish it was still run by a visionary product person. The 6GB of RAM in iPhone 15 and 15 plus will NOT run Apple intelligence and they’re one year old or less for everyone who owns them.
So many times Apple has cut corners and that’s about money. Again, you can look at it all and say ”no it was to give me an extra five minutes of battery they didn’t want to put 8GB or 12GB or 16GB of RAM like flagship Android phones. I have a $350 Nothing Phone 1 that has 12GB of RAM. It’s two-plus years old.
So facts and conjecture lead me to believe the reality of the situation. MONEY drives every decision at Apple and it always will as long as Steve is gone. It will no Longer be about the customer experience. Even support is a business now. Every single decision is money driven.
„Apple has no plans to make a smart speaker.“
Would a ring be cool? Absolutely - esp for Apple Pay, device unlocking. I would buy one.
Looks like Apple will be concentrating on improving the health features of the watch.
I’m not going reply to your individual bs about money, AI etc. Money doesn’t necessarily drive the direction of a company. Suggesting it does shows a lack of knowledge in this space. I’m not blaming you, just giving you an excuse for saying you're talking facts when it’s just a loosely based opinion based on a probably unfounded bias view against Cook.
Name a current visionary CEO. Someone on the same alter you put Steve Jobs?
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If you have the stomach for it, Google “degloving”. Actually… no, don’t do that. You don’t want to see it. Although if you do see it, you’ll never want to wear a ring (normal or smart) ever again.
(Maybe those Apple executives also saw pictures of “degloving” and wanted no part of the smart ring market.)
If you need to wear a ring, may I recommend a silicon ring that can easily break away without causing serious damage to your finger?
(Maybe those Apple executives also saw pictures of “degloving” and wanted no part of the smart ring market.)
If you need to wear a ring, may I recommend a silicon ring that can easily break away without causing serious damage to your finger?
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Exactly.
The potential profits have to check out first and foremost.
Apple also seems to pretty consistently only go into a new product category when they really feel they can dominate the specific market. Either because they can offer something better, or simply because of their great product integration.
On the other hand, while there is some buzz for smart rings, it's also just not really a substantial market and nowhere near phase where they are moving towards going mainstream.
I've gone months and months without seeing anyone with a smart ring, and don't feel tech media or tech YouTubers/influencers have been showing them much love altogether.
Apple should definitely wait a couple of years. This is a product category they can sleep on.
Apple wants to put out devices that are intrinsically tied to one another, devices that make you buy and use more of Apple's other devices and products.
-Putting out a completely display-less device, ring, strap or otherwise, seems like it would do very little to aid Apple in getting you to buy more Apple products.
And not to get sassy, but you can stop emailing Apple as the device you're describing would inevitably have to cost less than an Apple Watch but simultaneously let buyers avoid spending the big bucks on an Apple Watch.
-Offering products that overlap in features/specs and cannibalize sales of more expensive products in already-established product categories is not something Apple will ever do.
Apple Watch is too popular and Apple earns too much money from it for a ring or a strap to happen, both directly and indirectly as Watch forces you to use an iPhone.
Whenever Apple Watch is dethroned as the World's best selling smartwatch/fitness tracker is the day Apple will put out devices that let you ditch your Watch.
I would love one, currently use Ultrahuman, now on the Whoop band, have Ultra and never really wear it on a mechanical watch
The main reason Apple is unlikely to release a watch is because it is an inferior product as a health wearable to a watch.
It can do certain things and do them well, but it will not compete with AW's various sensors. And the smart ring market isn't a very big one. I considered getting one last year until I saw that Oura says not to wear it while lifting weights (sensible advice, if you've ever seen a "degloving" incident as a result of rings and weights). So it's just a pretty handicapped product to begin with, and Apple won't be swayed by that.
But I do hope they release something that appeals to people who want the wearable data but also want to wear normal watches. A smart but discreet bracelet would be ideal. Wouldn't need a screen but it would be possible to incorporate one if they wanted to, so think closer to a Garmin or Fitbit bracelet style instead of a full watch.
I own and enjoy my AW, but I'd be first in line to buy a bracelet so I could wear a normal watch again
It can do certain things and do them well, but it will not compete with AW's various sensors. And the smart ring market isn't a very big one. I considered getting one last year until I saw that Oura says not to wear it while lifting weights (sensible advice, if you've ever seen a "degloving" incident as a result of rings and weights). So it's just a pretty handicapped product to begin with, and Apple won't be swayed by that.
But I do hope they release something that appeals to people who want the wearable data but also want to wear normal watches. A smart but discreet bracelet would be ideal. Wouldn't need a screen but it would be possible to incorporate one if they wanted to, so think closer to a Garmin or Fitbit bracelet style instead of a full watch.
I own and enjoy my AW, but I'd be first in line to buy a bracelet so I could wear a normal watch again
A ring might sell better than a $3000 dollar pair of goggles. 🤣
The goggles are a new product line with limitless potential upside — not just financially but in use cases.
A ring is the opposite of that: it's a feature-limited product line that has already more or less reached its limitations.
Apple's VR headset is borderline prototype at the mass consumer level, it wasn't exactly priced to compete with iPhone sales. This is tech that will get better and cheaper in the coming years. The iPad is doing well for itself, but it was derided as "a big iPhone" when it was introduced.
Apple has no plans for VR headset
Apple has no plans for CAR (oops! abandoned)
Many people, myself included find the idea of wearing a sweaty watch or wristband in bed abhorrant. A ring is a nice idea for a stat tracker that does not impede ones sleep.
The whole 'car' myth was clearly just a way of them being able to real-world test the Vision Pro sensor array without using headsets. Scaling it up and mounting it to cars was actually brilliant cover as it sent the tech press in the opposite direction.
A month after Vision Pro hits the market the 'car' team mysteriously folds. Just as the Vision Pro is able to collect all the sensor data feedback Apple could ever wish for.
Coincidence?