Apple Has Raised $200 Million Through (PRODUCT)RED Sales to Fight AIDS

[MrJeffreyGee]

let me change the headline for you

Apple Customers have raised 200m to help fight AIDS.

Not every corporation has a (PRODUCT) RED line. Apple made the choice to have one; as well as, making the decision to turn their business signs red. Apple could have just kept all that money by not making the extra effort, so the headline is fine the way it is.

 

[Glockworkorange]

I wouldn’t say it’s under control. If you go do a news search about HIV rates in Europe, you’ll see a bunch of articles published with the past two days that the number of cases are rising, although the rate of increase is slowing. Eastern Europe including Russia are having a really difficult time managing the growing number of infections. HIV is a treatable chronicle condition if you have access to a first world medical system, and either have the means/insurance that covers the drugs, or live in an area where there are organizations and programs catering to lower income folks living with the infection. Access to detection and treatment, even in first world nations like the USA, often is disproportionate across racial and cultural boundaries. And of course there are parts of the world where undetected and untreated HIV, leading to AIDS, is still a raging wildfire of a problem.


Yeah, and if people didn’t go swimming, they wouldn’t drown. And if they didn’t live in multifloor houses they’d wouldn’t die falling the steps. And if they didn’t ride in vehicles or walk across streets they wouldn’t die in crashes.

HIV AIDS is an incredibly easy disease to prevent. It is not a random thing, like a collapsing building or hurricane or a car wreck.

As unfashionable as it is to say, HIV/AIDS can be very much avoided by making less risky life decisions. Have safe sex. Do not use intravenous drugs. Note I’m not talking about accidental infections due to unsanitary needles in a legit medical setting, nor am I discussing in utero transfer.

 

[iSee]

“Says he’s not going to say he’s a pedo then gives evidence he may be”

You didn’t watch the full video. It’s self evident. You gave it 10 minutes knowing you would reject all of it. And obviously you don’t understand non subtle subtlety / that he’s a comedian In his spare time so he has a playful approach but is making a very serious commentary and Analysis on how bono is not a good person like at all including that

I’m happy you’re outraged by the format of this video. Grrrr lol! Truth hurts. Truth and comedy intertwined, that’s enough to outrage the outrage mob because it’s effective

“Come on this is a really stupid video” great dissection of what’s presented. Very analytical.

Essentially “Come on dude bow to my distaste”

Nah I’m totally good!

I’ll let people continue to meltdown over my
Posts. How joyous

And someone who mentions the word trump or supports the president isn’t allowed to analyze bono ? instantly disqualified from speaking about bono? Off limits? Hmmm. That sounds pretty hateful and dismissive and close minded to me

I can’t convince you any better than an hour long video with stacked circumstantial evidence he’s scum. So agree to disagree

Heh, of course I didn't watch the full video. If the first 10 minutes is junk, what are the chances the rest of it will be worth my time? It's basic triage.

I mean, that guy didn't put any effort into it, so why would I? I only watched 10 minutes because I have a taste for the grotesque.

You mention the guy is a comic, but if that's true why couldn't he think of anything funny to say? Maybe he's saving the jokes for the last 10 minutes?

Also, I'm sorry, but I'm not outraged or having a meltdown. I just like poking trolls and watching them jump up and down!

 

[thadoggfather]

Heh, of course I didn't watch the full video. If the first 10 minutes is junk, what are the chances the rest of it will be worth my time? It's basic triage.

I mean, that guy didn't put any effort into it, so why would I? I only watched 10 minutes because I have a taste for the grotesque.

You mention the guy is a comic, but if that's true why couldn't he think of anything funny to say? Maybe he's saving the jokes for the last 10 minutes?

Also, I'm sorry, but I'm not outraged or having a meltdown. I just like poking trolls and watching them jump up and down!

Because you can’t possibly know what he’s researched and presented and how he’s put his neck out there to convey / spent time to think about it and cumulatively gather circumstantial evidence that is the uncomfortable truth about bono that you aren’t even willing to consider a possibility. That’s fine but that’s what you’ve done. No more no less. And as a sideshow you’re critiquing the format and his personality more than the argument and evidence put forth which you haven’t even seen through.

The fear of discomfort and your bias forbids critical analysis. You’re depriving yourself of even being willing to examine something out of fear you could possibly be wrong and scratch your head and feel mind F’d and confused/disgusted in the end by being so blinded and betrayed by being lied to. Your convictions are strong but heavily outweigh the proportional amount of time and effort you’re willing to research what you feel so passionately to pretend to know on the matter which is none, *even*when it’s spoon fed to you out of entitlement “show me the evidence” ok watch this hour long it’s stacked w good points “nah I’m not gonna so there’s no evidence”. It’s juvenile.

You’re saying it’s trash evidence but yet you havent even listened to this anywhere near its entirety you proudly conceded ... so how can you really know? “The movie was crap” well did you watch it? “No but I saw opening credits and main dudes face, it’s crap anyways”

Your pre determined opinion is based on incomplete information

I’m also by no means jumping up and down physically or temperament wise or ‘trolling’ but I do disagree with your irrational argument you’re trying to dress up as rational and I’m calling it out. So deal with it. And also I pity you. I don’t know how else to put it. To be that afraid to even be willing to go down a Rabbit hole. It’s frailty

You take the blue pill

 

[nordique]

This is awesome.

Good on Apple for doing this. I don't see any other smartphone manufacturer doing this.

 

[iSee]

But I did give it a chance. Over 10 minutes and no substance, no research, no truths (uncomfortable or otherwise)... there weren't even any jokes!

I don't know why you're complaining about my discomfort, bias and lack of critical analysis.
I think you might have become confused about who you're responding to?
I'm not uncomfortable with the video or coming at it with a bias (unless you think expecting some basic level of substance is biased???)
And I've provided critical analysis. Why aren't reading it?
You have a lot of ideas about what's going on in my head, but you are really not a good mind reader because you just aren't getting any of it right.

I tell you what: since you're really worked up about the fact I only watched the 10 minutes of the video and you're telling me there is substance later in the video, why don't you point me to one of the substantive sections of the video... you know, one of the parts with the research you mentioned and eye-opening evidence, or really anything of substance. Or at least a couple jokes?

 

[CarlJ]

let me change the headline for you

Apple Customers have raised 200m to help fight AIDS.

Apple has gotten their customers to raise 200m to help fight AIDS.

It's 200million that likely wouldn't have gone to the cause otherwise. Why complain?

 

[Irock619]

You're describing a holocaust survivor, who has donated billions to incredible causes in a negative way. Maybe you should head back to Breitbart, your views aren't welcome here.

Pretty sure he's wanted for felonies in his native country. I say deport him!

 

[CarpalMac]

Amazing number, even $1 contributed is a good thing. $200m in 12 years is good stuff, even if project red isn't perhaps the very best vehicle for it.

Got me wondering and I just did some (very) rough sums on Apple's 2018Q1 report, as I like to relate big numbers to theirs as it's usually so hard to wrap my head around them. Trying to get a bit of perspective.

In revenue (not profit), they pulled in ~$61,000m a day. Shows what an astonishing money machine Apple is. All thanks to one product initially.

So 12 years of Project Red sales contributions equates to 0.32% of their daily revenue. Nope, I still cannot get my head around their numbers.

 

[Moi Ici]

Even if it's unrealistic, what they said regarding the transmission of the disease is entirely correct.

It’s ONE way the disease is transmitted. Blood transfusions etc are others.

 

[ChrisMoBro]

Soros essentially caused the Asian financial crisis back in the day, impoverishing tens of millions of people. I suppose giving westerners a few billion makes up for the human suffering he caused.

You need a history lesson. Julian Robertson betted three times the amount Soros did and yet he’s not blamed for the collapse of Thailand’s banks

 

[Bacillus]

I'd like to see Apple do something towards cancer. They have AIDS somewhat under control. But cancer in not even close to being under control. And considering it killed Steve Jobs, they might want to do some giving in that direction.

Agree 100%. And there so many more, sparse, special diseases (for which relentless pharmacies stirred up prices 10 to 100 fold) where some serious attention raised up by Apple (or a promillage of it’s endless funds) could be just as helpful

 

[notabadname]

Probably better diseases to fight. HIV/AIDS is an incredibly preventable disease, except for maybe the children born to HIV postive parents.

It’s so easy to prevent (don’t use intravenous drugs and practice safe sex, for the most part), that it should not be as lethal as its turned out to be in Africa.

Education and condoms don’t cost $200 million.

To be very clear, I am not talking about the cost of TREATMENT, I am talking about the cost of PREVENTION, which you’d think would be the focus a few generations after learning the best method of staying free of the disease.

There is so much ignorance in this post I’m not sure where to begin. So I’ll keep it simple: regardless of how the millions of people became infected, 37 million human beings ARE infected. Prevention is not the option for them. If someone you knew or loved were among those ranks, perhaps you wouldn’t think there were a “better” disease to fight. Compassion for the afflicted should not merely be driven by whether it affects you or someone you care about - or an illness only you fear contracting. And for the record, MANY illnesses, including cancers, are “preventable”.

 

[Carnegie]

Amazing number, even $1 contributed is a good thing. $200m in 12 years is good stuff, even if project red isn't perhaps the very best vehicle for it.

Got me wondering and I just did some (very) rough sums on Apple's 2018Q1 report, as I like to relate big numbers to theirs as it's usually so hard to wrap my head around them. Trying to get a bit of perspective.

In revenue (not profit), they pulled in ~$61,000m a day. Shows what an astonishing money machine Apple is. All thanks to one product initially.

So 12 years of Project Red sales contributions equates to 0.32% of their daily revenue. Nope, I still cannot get my head around their numbers.

Your numbers are off by a couple of orders of magnitude.

For FY 2018, Apple brought in an average of about $730,000,000 ($730 million in American vernacular) a day. So, the $200 million which (RED) has raised in 12 years through its partnership with Apple represents about 27% of an average (current) days' revenue for Apple.

 

[Glockworkorange]

There is so much ignorance in this post I’m not sure where to begin. So I’ll keep it simple: regardless of how the millions of people became infected, 37 million human beings ARE infected. Prevention is not the option for them. If someone you knew or loved were among those ranks, perhaps you wouldn’t think there were a “better” disease to fight. Compassion for the afflicted should not merely be driven by whether it affects you or someone you care about - or an illness only you fear contracting. And for the record, MANY illnesses, including cancers, are “preventable”.

Your response is pure emotion.

Here are the two most common methods of contracting HIV—unsanitary needles and risky, unprotected sex.

Both are easy to avoid by lifestyle changes. How is prevention ever “not an option?” If it’s “not an option” you’re really saying HIV is an inevitability for a lot of folks. Which is just bonkers.

Bottom line—reasons for transfer are well known and easy to contain through relatively cheap means, your emoting and whining for “compassion” notwithstanding.

 

[blacktape242]

Not every corporation has a (PRODUCT) RED line. Apple made the choice to have one; as well as, making the decision to turn their business signs red. Apple could have just kept all that money by not making the extra effort, so the headline is fine the way it is.

without customers there is no company.

 

[AlexGraphicD]

Bono has become a parody and a disgusting person. I don’t buy that he truly cares for humanity, this guy’s actions are all publicity stunt and virtue signaling .
And as evidence was showed on some previous posts about his “philanthropy” foundation, a tiny fraction of the donations actually goes to those in need.
Yeah awesome, apple raised $200 million. The point is how much of that money will actually go to the cause they are supposed to.

 

[Digital Skunk]

My wife always wants the (RED) version of an Apple product any time there is one.
Not because she's a humanitarian. She just like red.

It pains me to admit this but me too. It's an added bonus that I can help fund a charity, but the RED products just looks so bloody good. (pun intended)

If I ever really felt a calling to a charity, I'd just give them the money directly.

 

[AlexGraphicD]

It pains me to admit this but me too. It's an added bonus that I can help fund a charity, but the RED products just looks so bloody good. (pun intended)

If I ever really felt a calling to a charity, I'd just give them the money directly.

Don’t feel so bad. Charities most of the time are scam and benefit very little the cause, instead the money goes to the pockets of those in charge.

 

[[AUT] Thomas]

Didn't buy mine for the ProductRED. I don't trust those charities. Most of them (almost any, like >95%) come up with a very low efficiency (money actually ending up where it should end up and not in EU/US corporation managing the funds or other administrative tasks performed in the 1st world, that results in high costs). As such I rarely donate money, except for very local organisations, where the flow of the money is obvious.

HIV AIDS is an incredibly easy disease to prevent. It is not a random thing, like a collapsing building or hurricane or a car wreck.

The prevention is the real deal.
In Europe and US the decease is no longer scary BECAUSE of the available treatment, which -ironically- increases the number of infections. In Africa the problem is, that there are so many stupid traditions that keep deceases like this one alive. Like this insanely stupid one: https://www.theguardian.com/global-...n-slept-with-100-women-gets-two-year-sentence On the other hand, in specific religious regions, the condom is still having a hard time (no, not in that way) protecting from HIV when the local church advises against it. That's no accounting for all the cases where a condom simply isn't available, too expensive or intercourse happens without it intentionally for other reason.
Also, kissing the dead isn't actually a smart idea if the person died from something like, let's say, ebola.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Didn't buy mine for the ProductRED. I don't trust those charities. Most of them (almost any, like >95%) come up with a very low efficiency (money actually ending up where it should end up and not in EU/US corporation managing the funds or other administrative tasks performed in the 1st world, that results in high costs). As such I rarely donate money, except for very local organisations, where the flow of the money is obvious.

The prevention is the real deal.
In Europe and US the decease is no longer scary BECAUSE of the available treatment, which -ironically- increases the number of infections. In Africa the problem is, that there are so many stupid traditions that keep deceases like this one alive. Like this insanely stupid one: https://www.theguardian.com/global-...n-slept-with-100-women-gets-two-year-sentence On the other hand, in specific religious regions, the condom is still having a hard time (no, not in that way) protecting from HIV when the local church advises against it. That's no accounting for all the cases where a condom simply isn't available, too expensive or intercourse happens without it intentionally for other reason.
Also, kissing the dead isn't actually a smart idea if the person died from something like, let's say, ebola.

I don’t feel $200 million (or whatever) is a solid charitable investment if you explain the disease and prevention and they go about engaging in the risky behavior anyway. At some point, people are just a lost cause and it’s time to move on. No condoms? Fine. Your pews are going to be a few folks empty.

Take the money and buy some mosquito nets with Bill Gates if you really want to do some good in Africa.

Frankly, most of that continent is just a lost cause.

 

[swingerofbirch]

It is important to know that Product(RED) introduces genital cutting to areas of Africa where it has not been traditionally used—including the genital cutting of minors—based on specious data:

This is what Product(RED) funds and promotes as prevention of HIV/AIDS:

https://www.theglobalfund.org/en/specials/2016-06-08-beyond-the-cut/

Here is some information on the specious research behind the genital cutting practices:

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2012/05/when-bad-science-kills-or-how-to-spread-aids/

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/28/circumcision-prevents-hiv-infection-medical-myth

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3255200/

 

[fairuz]

It is important to know that Product(RED) introduces genital cutting to areas of Africa where it has not been traditionally used—including the genital cutting of minors—based on specious data:

This is what Product(RED) funds and promotes as prevention of HIV/AIDS:

https://www.theglobalfund.org/en/specials/2016-06-08-beyond-the-cut/

Here is some information on the specious research behind the genital cutting practices:

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2012/05/when-bad-science-kills-or-how-to-spread-aids/

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/28/circumcision-prevents-hiv-infection-medical-myth

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3255200/

Just a note to anyone not following the links, "genital cutting of minors" refers to circumcision. In Africa there are some other widely publicized practices of... editing genitals that I originally thought of.

 

[friednoodles]

It is important to know that Product(RED) introduces genital cutting to areas of Africa where it has not been traditionally used

Can you link to something that shows (RED) is involved in such things?

None of those links mention anything about (RED) and I find nothing online that suggests (RED) provides funding to the activities you mention.

 

[swingerofbirch]

Can you link to something that shows (RED) is involved in such things?

None of those links mention anything about (RED) and I find nothing online that suggests (RED) provides funding to the activities you mention.

"We work with the world’s most iconic brands and organizations to develop (RED)-branded products and services, that when purchased, trigger corporate giving to the Global Fund."
https://www.red.org/faqs-contact/

Global Fund:
https://www.theglobalfund.org/en/specials/2016-06-08-beyond-the-cut/

"Key Performance Indicator 2 Performance against service delivery targets Strategic Vision Invest funds to maximize portfolio impact

e. # of males circumcised"

https://www.theglobalfund.org/media/2531/core_globalfundstrategy2017-2022_strategy_en.pdf