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I think there is a risk of a high return rate ….due to
a) cost, if I was unsure or in any way unhappy then 3500+ is a tempting refund.
b) lack of detailed prior product review information leading to unfulfilled expectation.
I am sure a huge factor in the high price is accounting for elevated returns. I am sure there are a not so insignificant number of people who will try it and return it. With that being their intention from the start.

Doesn’t make the product an issue though. As they could be happy enough to share their positive experiences and build hype.

But Apple will likely hold refurbished ones from the store for a while to hide the elevated returns (if they materialize).
 
That’s a very low bar. So let’s say that they only make 10 and 20 show interest you call that a success for Apple?
Well, any time you can sell more than you make, it IS a success.

Whether those 20 cover the R&D, etc., is another story.
 
Mostly to people that want to play with it but have no intention to keep it at that price
 
Sounds like a lot, but that's like two days of iPhone sales.

Apple sells over 200 million iPhones per year, or about 500k per day. At an ASP of $700, that's $350 million per day.
That’s crazy. Does that 200M/year stay pretty steady? And is that worldwide or US only?
 
$700 million just for the orders so far.. I wonder what the R&D and production cost for 200k units is?
 
Not wrong though. Sam Kohl bought 3.
I swear this exact comment, from other accounts, has popped up as one of the first comments on other posts about the vp, are folks really that bored that they’re taking the time to lamely troll these threads like this?
 
This is going to blow your mind but this is a failure.

Meta sold 20 Million and it’s still not a success

Looking forward to see what developers do with this thing. Clearly Apple didn’t know either.
Those sales figures don't mean much. I'm one of the 20 million, because I was tired of waiting for Apple, but I returned it due to the awful experience and I'd bet I have a lot of company.
 
Facebook and PlayStations have sold millions/10s of millions.

It’s a flop.
Yes - and they're made out of plastic, with transparency that borders on Saran Wrap that wouldn't pass muster in Apple's supply chain QC controls.

I'm ALL in on a superior version that lets me work remotely, in an immersive environment with privacy, wherever I want to go. Granted, it's a huge premium . . . but it will usher in a new paradigm in remote computing.
 
I’m not buying one because I think it’s meh i’m just waiting for the usual Youtubers telling us how pretty it is and and whatever else they think about it.
Let us know how the court of public opinion sways your opinion after launch day!
 
From Wikipedia:

In its first week, Apple had sold 270,000 iPhones domestically.[47] Apple sold the one millionth iPhone 74 days after the release.[48] Apple reported in January 2008 that four million were sold.[49] As of Q4 2007, strong iPhone sales put Apple no. 2 in U.S. smartphone vendors, behind Research In Motion and ahead of all Windows Mobile vendors.[50]

I guess the question is will the momentum continue or is this just early adopters and YouTube reviewers?
 
That’s crazy. Does that 200M/year stay pretty steady? And is that worldwide or US only?
Worldwide - there are 330ishM citizens in US (2/3 are NOT buying new iPhones annually)

The market is saturated. As price/unit goes up, people are holding iPhones longer than the 1-2 year replacement
cycle that existed 10 years ago.

Time for the next product cycle. (suck it Zuckerberg)
 
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Apple has infinitely more “know” than these third party analysts. They can probably estimate down to the single thousands of how many of these things they are going to sell. It’s a gen 1 launch. Unless it fails miserably for some reason, in a few years we will all look back at laugh at how outrageously overpriced it was at launch “and it wasn’t even able to x, y, and z like it can now” in terms of features/evolution.
 
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I swear this exact comment, from other accounts, has popped up as one of the first comments on other posts about the vp, are folks really that bored that they’re taking the time to lamely troll these threads like this?
This is not a knock on the AVP. I think in terms of the AR/VR space it will be heads and tails above any other product on the market and will do what only Apple is able to do which is create a new ecosystem around their hardware.

Honestly, I haven't seem my comment anywhere else regarding the AVP but its completely possible. I say that because the big YouTube channels always brag about how much they spend on new Apple releases and then tell us how much of that they return after the reviews.

TLDR; Its a knock on the YouTube style influencers and not the AVP.
 
Sounds like a lot, but that's like two days of iPhone sales.

Apple sells over 200 million iPhones per year, or about 500k per day. At an ASP of $700, that's $350 million per day.
And how many iPhones were sold in 2007, at a price of $500 or $600 (about $725-$850 in todays dollars)? Apple sold just 1.4 million.

Let’s so how things change over the next free years before passing judgment.
 
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