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Thank god, im very happy with the Iris scanner and FPS on my S9 :)

seriously... does this matter that much? S9 has Face Unlock (I think S8 even did but not as secure). Most people will see Android phones have Face unlock and not really care about the tech behind each phone maker's version.
 
seriously... does this matter that much? S9 has Face Unlock (I think S8 even did but not as secure). Most people will see Android phones have Face unlock and not really care about the tech behind each phone maker's version.

I think it's more about the tech, how advanced it is, and the security behind it more so than just the one unlock feature. The use cases for such tech will likely be expanded upon by Apple and developers this year. For a lot of people, you're right, it won't matter. They don't care about the tech or how secure it is or AR or any of that, but some will.
 
Wouldn't Apple improving Face ID to work at more extreme angles be the solution here?
It's not a mutually exclusive proposition. They can hypothetically work to improve Face ID and work on Touch ID under the screen. It simply becomes another choice for consumers. For the truly security conscious (read paranoid) it could be used as some type of next level 2FA TouchFace Retina Pro ID. I'm kidding of course.
 
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It's not a mutually exclusive proposition. They can hypothetically work to improve Face ID and work on Touch ID under the screen. It simply becomes another choice for consumers. For the truly security conscious (read paranoid) it could be used as some type of next level 2FA TouchFace Retina Pro ID. I'm kidding of course.

Sure, that makes sense, but I just don't see it happening. If they improve upon Face ID, I don't really see the need for Touch ID under the screen.
 
Two things:
1.Feel warm. Uh Bruce, stop peeing in the pool. Not cool.:p:D

2.After a swim from my trunks. So you're peeing in the pool & skinny dipping? Alrighty then.:)

That sentence would have been a lot less funny if you had written it like this:
I've lost count of the amount of times I pull my phone from my trunks after a swim...
P

Oooer. Yes. I was once thrown out for that incident. However it occurred on the high board! :oops:
 
I haven't used an android phone in probably a year. Does "TouchID" actually work well on them now?
What I haven't seen in Android land is a mandate and secure standard for storing fingerprints and possibly FaceID, analogous to the 'Secure Enclave' that Apple has, without this security standard the fingerprint security in Android is almost no security.

Face recognition is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
That probably is a classic definition of Luddite mentality, analogous to - horse carriages worked, why build cars.
 
Face recognition is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

I disagree. FaceID makes interaction with the iPhone seamless in the same way that early iPhones without security protections were. You pick up or look at your iPhone X (when you get a notification) and it unlocks. And switching from TouchID eliminated the need for a touch button on the face of the iPhone, freeing up screen space, which was and is another problem FaceID solved. The fact that no matter what device you're using, facial recognition and unlock is such a perfect way to interact, because you don't have to move a finger into a certain position, which like all of the Android phones that have a touch sensor on the back middle of the device requires an un-natural finger movement, effectively with only your pointer finger working (further limiting it's usefulness). All you have to do is look at your device, which we're clearly doing as part of our natural use of the device - it's really a brilliant solution to multiple problems.
 
What will Apple do with that lead? Others will catch up for sure.

Apple had a few years lead with Siri.. and looked what happened.

As others have said, Face recognition has more possibilities than just unlocking a phone. Will Apple take this opportunity to utilize this more?
 
Wouldn't Apple improving Face ID to work at more extreme angles be the solution here?

When I first got the X, I thought similarly - that it would be nice to have FaceID work at more extreme angles, but the reality is, you can't really use your iPhone when it's at some extreme angle. I think that many of us got used to pulling our iPhone out of our pocket, touching the TouchID button in one seamless move, so that when the phone is in the position where you can look at it, it's already on the home screen. With the current iPhone X, it requires a swipe-up gesture to get to the home screen, which is slightly more labor and time intensive to do than just touching a finger to the home button. I too would be interested in making it possible to skip the swipe up gesture - but I do understand why Apple didn't enable it.
 
I still want ambiguities regarding the longterm affects on the eyes resolved:

https://1reddrop.com/2017/09/16/will-face-id-iphone-x-damage-retina/

Perhaps there is a danger; perhaps not. The article mentions that, at least as of the writing six months ago, there was no conclusive evidence in the case of Apple's devices, that Apple has not released details on the intensity of the IR Dot Projector, and that it is possible Apple has no conclusive research data thus far. One might ask, why has Apple not released details on IR intensity, and if they HAVE performed conclusive research demonstrating the safety of the devices, why in the world wouldn't they publicize this data? I will likely get counter-arguments that there are all sorts of radiation issues we all experience on a daily basis that may affect our eyes. That's one reason older people are susceptible to cataracts - years of exposure to sun radiation. But until more conclusive information is available, I, for one, would prefer to stick with passwords and fingerprints.
 
When I first got the X, I thought similarly - that it would be nice to have FaceID work at more extreme angles, but the reality is, you can't really use your iPhone when it's at some extreme angle. I think that many of us got used to pulling our iPhone out of our pocket, touching the TouchID button in one seamless move, so that when the phone is in the position where you can look at it, it's already on the home screen. With the current iPhone X, it requires a swipe-up gesture to get to the home screen, which is slightly more labor and time intensive to do than just touching a finger to the home button. I too would be interested in making it possible to skip the swipe up gesture - but I do understand why Apple didn't enable it.

Yea, I get that. I was more so referring to the post where they described there issue of wanting to unlock while the phone was on the desk.
 
I disagree. FaceID makes interaction with the iPhone seamless in the same way that early iPhones without security protections were. You pick up or look at your iPhone X (when you get a notification) and it unlocks. And switching from TouchID eliminated the need for a touch button on the face of the iPhone, freeing up screen space, which was and is another problem FaceID solved. The fact that no matter what device you're using, facial recognition and unlock is such a perfect way to interact, because you don't have to move a finger into a certain position, which like all of the Android phones that have a touch sensor on the back middle of the device requires an un-natural finger movement, effectively with only your pointer finger working (further limiting it's usefulness). All you have to do is look at your device, which we're clearly doing as part of our natural use of the device - it's really a brilliant solution to multiple problems.

Another great use is Apps that require TouchID (FaceID) to unlock. As soon as you tap to launch the App it opens and unlocks seamlessly. No more need to double tap (tap on App to launch, move finger and tap on fingerprint reader to unlock).


Iris scanner isn’t secure at all since it can be fooled

Not to mention it gives off enough infrared light to be picked up on satellite by NASA.
 
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Weren't Apple two years behind in areas such as:

Cut/Copy/Paste
MMS
Notifications
Waterproofing

To name a few.....

But that's called "Getting it right" isn't it?
 
FaceID was the solution to a problem that didn't exist to begin with. TouchID was so good that I started actually putting passwords on my phone for the first time. But rather than finish development of an under-display fingerprint sensor, they abandoned it and rushed this weird facial recognition thing. It makes sense in a laptop since you have to be facing the display (Windows Hello is very well executed); but it makes so much less sense in a laptop. What if I just want to keep my phone on a table and check my notifications?
 
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That isn't saying much, FaceId isn't very impressive. It's amazing how often it misses if you aren't looking at it straight on.

Now, bring on the masses of "but it works fine for me 100% of the time REEEEE"

Its not supposed to work if your not looking straight on, you can disable that so you don't need to be looking at the phone to unlock.
 
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