Well thats just nuts. I guess being the first trillion dollar company is more important to them. Bummer. Still seems like they are holding strong on privacy for users in the US and EU...
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Apple Has Two-Year Lead Over Smartphone Rivals in 3D Sensing Race
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Well thats just nuts. I guess being the first trillion dollar company is more important to them. Bummer. Still seems like they are holding strong on privacy for users in the US and EU...
Until the US and the EU (which actually has pending proposals right now) pass the same kind of laws....
I think I get a false misread on TouchID about 1 time out of 50. And it's always MY fault (finger grossly misaligned with the sensor, moist finger).
Try wiping the grease off your fingers first.
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Then why are you trolling an Apple fan site?Thank god, im very happy with the Iris scanner and FPS on my S9
Just curious...
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FaceID Data NEVER leaves the phone. Not even during the "Enrollment" process.
Do some research before you post next time.
I disliked Face ID for about half a day, than I figured it out and found it to be more reliable than Touch ID.
You just need a little bit of time to get optimal distance, angle etc. hardwired into your brain. Well, and Face ID actually improves it's map of your face, although I found this only to be true for the first day, after that I couldn't see any further improvements.
You've learned how to use Touch ID for years. Best angle, amount of pressure, how wet or greasy your finger can be until it stops working, how to register your fingers with maximum accuracy etc. You don't think about those things anymore, because you are doing it automatically, but I guarantee you that your success rate improved over time.
Haven't they always been two years ahead? That's what it seems like to me. lol Android and Google would not know what to do if Apple were not around. I guess you could look at it as "Copying is the highest form of flattery"?
All the time? Sounds like a visit to the Genius Bar is order.
I have no unlocking issues with my X.
Soon Samsung or any Chinese company will buy any of these companies and Apple have to be dependent on them.
But security-wise it doesn't make much sense to offer a less secure unlocking-feature in addition to a more secure one, at least not if both are activated.
1. They already offer both right now and will continue to offer both for at least a couple of years till the inventory of Touch ID phones diminishes.
2. Recognizing that we're simply talking hypothetical situations, logic would dictate it would be harder to bypass two factors vs trying to bypass one.
3. If both aren't activated and the choice has to be one or the other, relatively speaking, the security is a wash in real world terms. Touch ID hasn't been breached in any practical way. The 1MM-1 vs 50K-1 chance of bypassing either is academic. No matter how you look at it, either is sufficient for protecting your information.
That's pretty amazing, I thought it would be much slower. Now I'm looking forward to Samsung adopting the built in fingerprint scanning tech.
Agreed. I have an X and really like FaceID. The only time I have issues with it is when I am laying in bed.
Yea, same here. I am usually too close to my face or in lying sideways. I think this will be fixed in version 2.
In reality, consumers will likely end up favouring one over the other (probably touch ID out of a sense of familiarity). If they use only Touch ID and turn off Face ID, that kinda defeats the whole point.
If you believe that Face ID is better than Touch ID, then by all means drop the latter. Just like how Apple went all in with USB C and dropped the headphone jack. This move is so uniquely Apple.
That said, I do think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or whether you are better off with some combination of the two. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.
I believe what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you. And Touch ID runs counter to that
What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically. It seems pretty seamless when it works, and we're still in V1 (so I expect more improvements to come along the way).
I know some people grapple with the concept of fewer options being better than more, but I have no doubt Apple’s decision will prove to be the right one in hindsight.
Although I appreciate your detailed thoughts, they have nothing to do with the topic being discussed. We were discussing a hypothetical. Apple's intent isn't germane.
Iris scanner is the most secure form of bioauthentication, even more secure than the widely touted face ID. Face ID has been fooled many times already.
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I beg to differ. At least it has a versatile finger printer scanner that works instantly. iphone x? None of it applies.
I don't know if 3D sensing is really a thing that Android needs to duplicate or will place Apple far ahead of their competition.
My One Plus 5 got face ID recently, and I mean it unlocks very quickly and I haven't been able to dupe it just yet, using photos or video on a screen. Also it unlocks if I wear sunglasses and at very oblique angles and in dark conditions.
I mean, if you can do that level of quality and speed just with a standard camera, and roll out the feature AFTER the initial hardware release, then what the **** is Apple doing that is so much better for face unlock with their 3D sensor package? And I mean this is One Plus, not even Samsung, and I don't think One Plus dumped a billion into Facial ID technology.
Sure, maybe animating poo emojis might be harder without depth sensing technology, but I think I can live without that feature on Android, forever. And even then, Snapshat and many other messaging apps have had animated overlays and masks for years using, again, standard cameras.
At the end of the day I think Apple over engineered iPhone X adding features no other company seems interested duplicating the feature set, because largely I think it can be accomplished easily without it.
My One Plus 5 got face ID recently, and I mean it unlocks very quickly and I haven't been able to dupe it just yet, using photos or video on a screen. Also it unlocks if I wear sunglasses and at very oblique angles and in dark conditions.
I mean, if you can do that level of quality and speed just with a standard camera, and roll out the feature AFTER the initial hardware release, then what the **** is Apple doing that is so much better for face unlock with their 3D sensor package? And I mean this is One Plus, not even Samsung, and I don't think One Plus dumped a billion into Facial ID technology.
Sure, maybe animating poo emojis might be harder without depth sensing technology, but I think I can live without that feature on Android, forever. And even then, Snapshat and many other messaging apps have had animated overlays and masks for years using, again, standard cameras.
At the end of the day I think Apple over engineered iPhone X adding features no other company seems interested duplicating the feature set, because largely I think it can be accomplished easily without it.
It's a security thing. Apple went to a higher level to ensure that they can use it for Apple Pay transactions.
Wow. Just wow.
Do you even understand what FaceID is and how secure it is?
I would never use the photo identification to unlock my Phone, password app, banking app or Apple Pay.
It can easily be tricked.
I’ll take my chances with a mask authenticating my Face ID for Apple Pay. And how does that work using the iris scanner.