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Apple Has 'Very Serious' DMA Issues, EU to Enforce Rules 'Soon'

UliBaer said:
That's the right answer to Apple's childish behavior...
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It's a bunch of bureaucrats deciding how tech should work. They will screw it up eventually. Forcing companies to comply with imaginary standards and rules based on nothing more than - greed. They want a bunch of tech to be available,eto any developer in Europe. And we ALL know how Europe leads the world in consumer tech...not.
 
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CatalinApple said:
I think long term Europe might be less attractive to foreign companies. Time will tell how this might play in Europe's advantage or disadvantage.
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They already are unattractive. Look at the top 100 companies in the world by market cap. 12 out of 100 are in the EU, which has a 50% larger population than the USA, which has 12 in the top 15 alone. The only reason they even have one in the top twenty (Novo at #12) is because they got lucky and their diabetes drug turned out to randomly help with weight loss. Yeah, Novo, the company that charges $1200 a month for $5 worth of drugs. Great job EU. Really doing a swell job at keeping your own in check there.
 
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You cant say the EU arent speedy.... I mean this little Apple AppStore just sprung up last week and plays by their own rules...

What? Over a decade of going along nicely, not the major OS, but happy users?
Geez we better put in some poorly worded legislation that is so vague we can complain about any changes they make to meet it... the even allowed Gatekeepers to vet all apps for security and platform integrity issues. By vetting, they allow a fee to be collected for apps outside the official store. Seems EU not happy that Apple want 12-27% to do it... 🙂

They state it is about better outcomes for customers but it wont generate lower charges.
Just more money collected will go to EU companies.

This is about $$$. Nothing more.
 
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It's a no-brainer. The $0.50 CTF was completely non-compliant. Anybody with half a brain who read the text of the DMA knows this.

It's clear Apple wants to take this to the courthouse rather than legitimately abide by EU rules. I get it, Apple hates sideloading and alternative app stores because they lose that 30% cut. If Apple wants to play in the EU, they have to abide by the law.
 
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Hewhowalksbehindtherows said:
Help me understand this. The DMA mandates that Apple must open up an alternate App Store on Apple's devices. Additionally, Apple may not make any money from the alternate App Store because of its gatekeeper status. If this is so, who maintains the alternate App Store? Who maintains its security? What are its costs? What are the costs to Apple? Can trojan apps in the alternate App Store integrate and infect the Apple ecosystem?
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All of that is built into the cost of buying a $999+ iPhone.
 
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rman0726 said:
They already are unattractive. Look at the top 100 companies in the world by market cap. 12 out of 100 are in the EU, which has a 50% larger population than the USA, which has 12 in the top 15 alone.
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This is distorted by the fact that there is much less of a tradition for companies to go public in Europe. Much of the strength of the European economy is in SMEs that aren't present on the capital market.
 
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If Apple isn’t allowed to make money on apps developed for their devices with their coding platform the answer is going to be simple. The developer entry cost is going up significantly. Xcode licensees will be a contract with Apple with varied costs and contact renewals. It’s going to take a ton of restructuring, and Apple is stalling while they make the necessary plans. Do what with wish with your app distribution but do people really think that multi-million/billion dollar corps are going to pay 99/299 a year and have a free pass? It’s insanely absurd.
 
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Hewhowalksbehindtherows said:
Help me understand this. The DMA mandates that Apple must open up an alternate App Store on Apple's devices. Additionally, Apple may not make any money from the alternate App Store because of its gatekeeper status. If this is so, who maintains the alternate App Store? Who maintains its security? What are its costs? What are the costs to Apple? Can trojan apps in the alternate App Store integrate and infect the Apple ecosystem?
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The alternate app stores would be, to my understanding, entirely run and maintained by the owner. Apple would not be hosting it, and they would have no control over it. Additionally people would be able to opt in and out as they please.

And since apps run sandboxed, that means there can’t possibly be any viruses unless they abuse some zero day vulnerability that Apple hasn’t patched yet.
 
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