Apple Has 'Very Serious' DMA Issues, EU to Enforce Rules 'Soon'

[boss.king]

if america would go to war for their oil companies, why not for their technology companies?

Going to war over in-app purchases does feel brutally American but even if they wanted to do it, that doesn't make it right or fair or justified.

Then Why should the EU say how private companies are regulated outside of its borders?

What are you talking about? The EU is saying how Apple should operate within the borders and for the citizens of its member countries. If you're referring to something else, you're going to have to be more specific.

 

[JapanApple]

But they don't; they only are taking issue with products used/sold in their borders. It affects the rest of the world; because apple like having 1 version of things.

No, people are taking this as there is no other place than where they exist.

 

[JapanApple]

Going to war over in-app purchases does feel brutally American but even if they wanted to do it, that doesn't make it right or fair or justified.


What are you talking about? The EU is saying how Apple should operate within the borders of its members. If you're referring to something else, you're going to have to be more specific.

what are you talking about? seemly talking about nothing existing outside the rules of said country. Enough on this barking to get Attention.

 

[jasonsmith_88]

Maybe Apple should just pull out of the EU. Just a thought.

GRR yeah the EU so annoying. I love having a private company tell me what software I am and am not allowed to use on a device I paid for, while also forcing the developers of those apps to jump through endless hoops and pay exorbitant fees to distribute it.

The EU wants to give me the right to use any software within the bounds of the law and for developers to be able to freely distribute that software. It’s sickening.

 

[supergt]

Phones are now computers and must be treated as such. Apple will fight tooth and nail but they are delaying the inevitable. The iPhone will be no different than a Mac within 10 years.

 

[LonerATO]

Outstanding

Time to punish the malicious compliance
Shame on Apple

We all expected better than this from the company we've loved all these years

It's a business, not a person. You should not be expecting anything more from Apple or any company.

 

[turbineseaplane]

It's a business, not a person. You should not be expecting anything more from Apple or any company.

A business is made up of people

I'm not following the point you're trying to make

 

[diskrisk]

I'll only take the EU seriously when they actually become consistent and target Spotify for all the anti-consumer, anti-artist and monopolistic practices they take part in. But they never will because this is a very thinly veiled attempt at undermining foreign tech sectors out of shame the EU can't compete anymore.

 

[boss.king]

Come on America stop putting up with this

Apple ≠ America. Why should America have any say in how private companies are regulated outside of its borders?

Then Why should the EU say how private companies are regulated outside of its borders?

What are you talking about? The EU is saying how Apple should operate within the borders and for the citizens of its member countries. If you're referring to something else, you're going to have to be more specific.

what are you talking about? seemly talking about nothing existing outside the rules of said country. Enough on this barking to get Attention.

The EU is making regulations for how companies operate inside the EU.
You suggested they're trying to regulate how companies operate outside of the EU.
They are not and I'm confused about how you even came to that conclusion.

 

[bousozoku]

Maybe Apple should just pull out of the EU. Just a thought.

When the next governmental entity tells them something, they can also pull out? Then, how many others, including the USA, until they have no market?

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Maybe Apple should just pull out of the EU. Just a thought.

Maybe they should pull out of the US, too, since they are being sued by the US government for being a monopoly and might have to open the App Store and/or payments here...or has everyone already forgotten about that?

Yawn.

U.S. Sues Apple, Accusing It of Maintaining an iPhone Monopoly (Published 2024)

The lawsuit caps years of regulatory scrutiny of Apple’s wildly popular suite of devices and services, which have fueled its growth into a nearly $3 trillion public company.

www.nytimes.com

Edit: oh yea, Japan as well, since they just passed a requirement to open the App Store too.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Folks -- you don't "pull out" of a market that's the size and importance of the EU

 

[JosephAW]

Just pay the penalty. That’s what they want anyway.

 

[trusso]

For my money, MacRumors can remove the "quotes" from the article "title." While technically correct in quoting the EU, it reads as a silent commentary against it, rather than a straight reporting of the facts (the EU's intent moving forward).

 

[turbineseaplane]

For my money, MacRumors can remove the "quotes" from the article "title." While technically correct in quoting the EU, it reads as a silent commentary against it, rather than a straight reporting of the facts (the EU's intent moving forward).

Agreed

I see Gruber is carrying water for Apple on social media also

Continues to make me "lol" that folks consider him an objective news source re: Apple

 

[boss.king]

Just pay the penalty. That’s what they want anyway.

If Apple paid 10-20% of its global turnover (revenue, not profit) to the EU (I presume annually, if they don't intend to comply properly at any point) I think the whole C-suite might be out job hunting within days of the decision.

 

[Entilzha]

For my money, MacRumors can remove the "quotes" from the article "title." While technically correct in quoting the EU, it reads as a silent commentary against it, rather than a straight reporting of the facts (the EU's intent moving forward).

…of all the things I thought I’d see in this comment section, a critique of using actual quotes in the article title wasn’t even on my top 50.

 

[surferfb]

If Apple complied with the letter and spirit of the law, there would be no fines.

It’s a bad law, poorly written. So hard to comply.

 

[The_Gream]

I just read this article

France's soaring debt problem could lead to calls to leave the EU, a top bank warns — FORTUNE

Far-left and far-right parties from the political fringes have proposed economic plans that centrist figures ripped as excuses to exit the European Union.

apple.news

The EU doesn’t even seem to hold their own members accountable for not following their policies, but instead continue to go after companies that have been successful.

I understand Apple isn’t perfect, but how about you hold your own people/members accountable to laws that are much older than the DMA - maybe if you did, you wouldn’t be trying to get an endless supply of money from companies you find in violation of a law that talks a lot of talk but doesn’t say anything.

I can see why the British wanted out -
No wonder Trump demanded that the NATO members start putting in the funds they agreed on but many still don’t.

Greedy brainless politicians are once again inflicting undue harm (economical - which will lead to emotional and physical).

 

[JapanApple]

The EU is making regulations for how companies operate inside the EU.
You suggested they're trying to regulate how companies operate outside of the EU.
They are not and I'm confused about how you even came to that conclusion.

LOL, why have they been telling other countries to adapt their regulations? You have the right to make your remarks but convincing others is not.

 

[boss.king]

LOL, why have they been telling other countries to adapt their regulations? You have the right to make your remarks but convincing others is not.

You got a source for that?

 

[macfacts]

Out of curiosity , why isn’t an App Store analogous to a retail store? When you ‘open’ up shop, you pay either a lease or buy a space . So if you have an App that you want to sell / have ‘items’ to sell, it’s a store. Hence, you pay rent.

Hosting a website isn’t free either , so those who get apps from a website on a Mac, they pay for a ‘domain’ or w/e / maintenance . No?

Why is the App Store being different ? Genuine question, because nothing is free outside the App Store in the commerce/ecommerce world to get started .

That's one of the problems, some devs don't want to use Apple's online store, they are being forced to use it. Some devs want to sell in their own website or online store.

 

[JapanApple]

You got a source for that?

Unlike you, here say seems to be the norm for this website.

 

[surferfb]

That's one of the problems, some devs don't want to use Apple's online store, they are being forced to use it. Some devs want to sell in their own website or online store.

And not pay Apple for any of the services Apple provides that allow them to have customers to sell to.

 

[jz0309]

Folks -- you don't "pull out" of a market that's the size and importance of the EU

That is true. But what will happen is that the cost of operating in the EU will rise, meaning lower margins, and to get margins back to pre-DMA levels, HW prices will increase.