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AudiGuy said:
i went though 3 ipods in one month. all three messed up the day i got them.


Oh, so you bought 3 iPods within the space of 4 weeks and they were all broken and yet you strangely didn't return or replace them under the Apple guarantee?

Excuse me if I find this claim a little farfetched.

:rolleyes:
 
The guy clearly wants some attention. He will probably be pushing a new book in near future. What better way than this to create a buzz around himself?
Regardless of which, I'd much rather prefer windows fanboys attacking Apple, than listen to the pity and ridicule that was so frequent a couple of years back.
Apple is obviously becoming a real threat to the empire of ignorance.
Way to go Steve. :D
 
Am I the only person who's never heard of Orson Scott Card?
He's a sci-fi writer?

Now I am aware of him I can avoid buying his stuff!
 
AudiGuy said:
the only thing the IPods got is the design, they are really crappy though. i went though 3 ipods in one month. all three messed up the day i got them. i was thinking "so it has 30Gs and it only stores 150 songs why is it saying there isnt any room left when i still got 25Gs? oh well it looks cool i guess ill keep it." luckly i didnt i wised up and got a 20G iriver.

There are many people who would disagree with you when you call the iPod crappy. Personally, I have never had any difficulties whatsoever with mine. And 3 iPods in 1 month?! All I can say it you must have the worst luck in the world, never go to Vegas. :cool: I can only hope you returned them under Apple's warranty and didn't keep them (even though you eluded to this) :eek:

As for getting an iRiver instead, I would hardly call that "wising up", but chacun son gout... Some would call getting a PC instead of a Mac "wising up" too, I suppose...

AudiGuy said:
about PCs both my mac and PC crash, but my 1.6P4 seems faster than my 1.5 G4.. WTF?

Once again, maybe you just have bad luck - there are not many people here who would claim their Mac crashes as much as their PC (if at all!)

Sorry, but with 3 iPods screwed up in a month and a Mac + a PC that apparently crash frequently, when looking for a common element some would rate this as PEBKAC... ;) :cool:
 
Blue Velvet said:
Oh, so you bought 3 iPods within the space of 4 weeks and they were all broken and yet you strangely didn't return or replace them under the Apple guarantee?

Excuse me if I find this claim a little farfetched.

:rolleyes:

yes i returned them, two 20G from apple and one 30G from bestbuy. i cant believe i was gonna keep a 20G just because it looked "cool" even if it held only 150 songs and i keep getting that dumb battery symbol with the lighting in the middle.
im am glad i didnt keep it, i dont want to be another guy with an ipod. when im on the train i notice at least 5 people with ipods on the car im in.
im not saying that both my pc and powerbook crash all the time, i saying that both platforms are not perfect. ipods are cool and all but lets just face it, people only buy them because they need to boost their image and/or wants to join the millions of "coo/hip" people. if ipods were more stable and less people owned them i would buy one. until then i dont want to be another zombie with white headphones.
 
AudiGuy said:
. ipods are cool and all but lets just face it, people only buy them because they need to boost their image and/or wants to join the millions of "coo/hip" people. if ipods were more stable and less people owned them i would buy one. until then i dont want to be another zombie with white headphones.


Are you reading the instruction manual? Maybe you bought your 3 iPods from some dodgy geezer in a car park?
 
AudiGuy said:
yes i returned them, two 20G from apple and one 30G from bestbuy. i cant believe i was gonna keep a 20G just because it looked "cool" even if it held only 150 songs and i keep getting that dumb battery symbol with the lighting in the middle.
im am glad i didnt keep it, i dont want to be another guy with an ipod. when im on the train i notice at least 5 people with ipods on the car im in.
im not saying that both my pc and powerbook crash all the time, i saying that both platforms are not perfect. ipods are cool and all but lets just face it, people only buy them because they need to boost their image and/or wants to join the millions of "coo/hip" people. if ipods were more stable and less people owned them i would buy one. until then i dont want to be another zombie with white headphones.
I am absolutely speechless... eventhough I feel a strong urge to comment, I just don't know what to say.
 
WARNING: Do not feed the troll.

AudiGuy said:
yes i returned them, two 20G from apple and one 30G from bestbuy. i cant believe i was gonna keep a 20G just because it looked "cool" even if it held only 150 songs and i keep getting that dumb battery symbol with the lighting in the middle.
im am glad i didnt keep it, i dont want to be another guy with an ipod. when im on the train i notice at least 5 people with ipods on the car im in.
im not saying that both my pc and powerbook crash all the time, i saying that both platforms are not perfect. ipods are cool and all but lets just face it, people only buy them because they need to boost their image and/or wants to join the millions of "coo/hip" people. if ipods were more stable and less people owned them i would buy one. until then i dont want to be another zombie with white headphones.


WARNING: Please do not feed the troll.

Please, no one else respond to this person's comments. He obviously has never owned an Apple or iPod in his life, and is a Windows fanboy.

Sidenote: I guess because I buy pants I am trying to boost my image since millions of cool/hip people own pants.
:cool:
 
I prefer to boost my image with cosmetic surgery, not electronic appliances anyway.
 
mac-er said:
WARNING: Please do not feed the troll.

Please, no one else respond to this person's comments. He obviously has never owned an Apple or iPod in his life, and is a Windows fanboy.

Sidenote: I guess because I buy pants I am trying to boost my image since millions of cool/hip people own pants.
:cool:

fan boy? you should really look at yourself first: imac, ipod, shuffle whos the fanboy? i just buy things that will fit my needs. i got a PC laptop to run the many programs that the mac doesnt have. i got the 12" powerbook for its small size and portability. ive tried the most popular mp3 player out there which is the ipod, i gave it three chances and it failed please me. so i got an iriver why? because it works thats why. again i buy things to fit my needs not because its trendy..
you apple heads can say what you want, what you need to do is crawl out of your apple caves and see wht the rest of the wold has to offer. im not on any side i like both pc and mac. just because you guys disagree with me it doesnt mean im a troll.

reply to sidenote: there are many styles of pants as there are mp3 players. it depends on what style you buy. say you want to be "street/hip-hop" then you would buy baggy pants right? sure everyone wears pants but you try do seperate yourself from the rest of the people with pants by wearing a certain style. as for mp3 palyers, not everyone wants to be a pod head okay?
 
having been a pc owner, and a pc technician for 6 years, i can see most of his points

sure, apple inc is the master of hype and os x is not perfect

sure, steve jobs makes some ignorant technical claims from time to time and even irks steve wozniak in his embarassing comments

sure, the prices of some of their products could come down

sure, there are mac users who claim apple did this first, or that first, and were/are dead wrong in their claims

but in the balance of both worlds, macs are better than any standard pc machines out there running microsoft windows...and while the pc world offers cheaper products, you get what you pay for and if you want the best, apple is there and thank god we have that choice

when i get up in the morning, i log into my g4 while my pc stays quiet ;)
 
^^^same here i log on to my g4 more but maybe because i have more HD space for downloads. im just too lazy to clean out the PC i got like 400MB left on there hahahhaa
 
AudiGuy said:
fan boy? you should really look at yourself first: imac, ipod, shuffle whos the fanboy? i just buy things that will fit my needs. i got a PC laptop to run the many programs that the mac doesnt have. i got the 12" powerbook for its small size and portability. ive tried the most popular mp3 player out there which is the ipod, i gave it three chances and it failed please me. so i got an iriver why? because it works thats why. again i buy things to fit my needs not because its trendy..
you apple heads can say what you want, what you need to do is crawl out of your apple caves and see wht the rest of the wold has to offer. im not on any side i like both pc and mac. just because you guys disagree with me it doesnt mean im a troll.

Against my better judgement, I will respond.
Sure, I love Apple because I was tired of Window's crappy DLL hell, ActiveX, anti-virus software and all the little pop-ups. Windows is too in your face.

But, the difference between you and I (and what makes you a troll), is that I don't go into Windows, MS, Dell, or HP forums and tell people what a bunch a crap Windows, MS, Dell, or HP stuff is.

According to Wikipedia, you are a troll...
A variant of the second variety (inflammatory messages) involves posting content obviously severely contradictory to the (stated or unstated) focus of the group or forum- for example, posting cat meat recipes on a pet lovers forum, posting evolutionary theory on a creationist forum (or vice versa), or posting messages about how all dragons are boring in the USENET group alt.fan.dragons.

I will no longer be responding to anything you post because I am not going to fall into the games of a troll.
 
mac-er said:
Against my better judgement, I will respond.
Sure, I love Apple because I was tired of Window's crappy DLL hell, ActiveX, anti-virus software and all the little pop-ups. Windows is too in your face.

But, the difference between you and I (and what makes you a troll), is that I don't go into Windows, MS, Dell, or HP forums and tell people what a bunch a crap Windows, MS, Dell, or HP stuff is.

According to Wikipedia, you are a troll...


I will no longer be responding to anything you post because I am not going to fall into the games of a troll.

:( I think someone is having a bad day.
 
AudiGuy said:
you apple heads can say what you want, what you need to do is crawl out of your apple caves and see wht the rest of the wold has to offer.
If by "rest of the world" you mean Windows/PC products, I've already been there and done that for 12+ years. As a Mac user for 5+ years, I'm much happier. Nothing is perfect, but some things are just better, and that includes PowerMacs and OSX.

Seems like you're basing your opinion of an entire company's product line on one item: the iPod. I feel the same you do about Apple's Displays, because I've had a lot of problems with them personally. But others have not, so, that doesn't make EVERYTHING crappy.

I think you're just looking for an argument and that's your only real motive here.
 
anonymous161 said:
:( I think someone is having a bad day.
I think he is correct. No flaws in his argumentation as I see it. We are talking about intentions here. I dont agree with everything Apple does, far from it. But when I do critizies Apple, I try to give constructive critisism and argue my point. I don't go on ranting about Apple making crappy products.
Big diff. as I see it
 
What about my xp pc

My dad who dispite my constant prodding is a pc person laragely because he can build them himself. About a year ago he bought a shuttle x pc it came in and looked pretty good (actually had some style) it even had some actually useful inovative features internally, not just a fan but cooling pipes which I thought was pretty cool. Then we installed xp and the fun started, we couldnt get the printer to work, the fast 16x dvd burner had no available drivers, spending hours working through these problems 20 minutes after opening the box was great.3 weeks latter time to put it through its paces for a 2.4ghz 1gig ram 64mbvid card it was RIDICULOUSLY slow my friends ibook 1.33ghz 256 ram 32bit vid card was as good or better than it. 1year 3refourmats 1virus later I sit and type this post stoping every 30 seconds to kill the popups attacking my screen and dreaming of the mac I am buying as soon as the june expo.


PS: what card forgot to mention is that the powerbook probly had features not even herd of in the pc world yet fire wire, usb 2.0 ext the guy with the powerbook could still be using it apples go out of date so slowly. Hes had to replace that toshiba 2or 3 times by now. :confused:
 
would someone list

could someone list all these programs that dont run on macs
because I cant think of any programs I (the average consumer) would need that doesnt run on the mac unless your a real hard core gamer

my opinion game systems are for games (xbox, ps2 ext.) I can live without them on my cpu for the most part except maybe for some rts games which by the way mac has pleanty of at least all the actually good games.
 
AudiGuy said:
i got a PC laptop to run the many programs that the mac doesnt have.

Could you please provide us all with a list of what these "many programs" are? I have only run into a couple rare PC programs that have nothing like them on the Mac, and even then I've found acceptable alternatives. Let us know what these programs are and maybe we can suggest some Mac programs that you weren't even aware of!
 
~Shard~ said:
Could you please provide us all with a list of what these "many programs" are? I have only run into a couple rare PC programs that have nothing like them on the Mac, and even then I've found acceptable alternatives. Let us know what these programs are and maybe we can suggest some Mac programs that you weren't even aware of!
Hmmm, I hate play the devils advocate....
But a stable professional wysiwyg LaTex editor is missing...:(
I am using Scientific Workplace from MacKichan Software . This is not a good program, buggy as hell, but the fact remains: there are no alternative for Mac (hence my signature).
Lyx can hardly be described as an alternative.
At home I have to run SWP through VPC. :(

note: they use to make a Mac version before. Now they state the following:

Microsoft Windows® XP, 2000, Me, 98, or NT 4.0
or
Apple Macintosh® running an emulator program such as Virtual PC™
64 MB of RAM
70 to 250 MB hard disk space, depending on the type of hard drive and the installation options selected
CD-ROM drive

...morons :mad:
 
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