They caught the processors late in their cycle when introducing the Unibody MBP's, so not really unusual.
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Apple have discontinued Anti Glare on 17" Macbook Pro?
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Well, this seems to be the most valid reason. It will be interesting to see how many concur.
It's not a matter of one being better than the other or one being a logical progression away from the other. It's a matter of personal preference and while you may find the glassy screens to be just great, I find them hard to concentrate on, horrible to use for any extended periods of time (eye strain), and detrimental to battery life due to needing the screen on brighter in environments with bad light.
I like that you like glassy...it makes life interesting that people have different opinions, but not offering the option on a $2000 machine is ridiculous. I'm now tied into the Mac platform for my work, not to mention I prefer OS X over Windows. I don't really have that much of a choice.
Those technologies are typically replaced with something better or with something that can be done just as well with another technology.
Matte vs. Glossy for the consummate professional is different though. The screen no longer becomes WYSIWYG when printing out your designs or pictures as they will be slightly more dull than what appears on the screen. And since the creation of their 24" Glossy Cinema Display, the only matte option you can get from Apple is the 30" display that's been technically identical for something like 5 years. Their only option is to then purchase an additional third-party display if they want to do work on their laptop, which can defeat the purpose of having a laptop in the first place.
Most graphic designers use Macs and this choice could possibly affect their productivity. Just because Apple is appealing to the majority of the market who don't really know better doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.
In essence they are just trying to reduce their total amount of costs for labor, parts, and the maintenance of having different types of displays. Just like their new smaller, wired keyboard that has less buttons than the previous but costs exactly the same for the consumer, and the fact that the laptops themselves weren't dramatically changed other than their Unibody designs. It keeps Apple's costs down but maintains their profits (potentially during this economic turmoil).
And again I agree with you, but as an AAPL shareholder, if it is true that Apple loses 10% of it's sales because they won't offer a matte screen, I'm a pissed off shareholder.
Personally, I have a glossy Macbook Pro and love it, and would buy the 24" Cinema Display or an iMac without hesitation of the 'glossiness'.
My old 17" Dell e1705 was my first glossy screen and I loved it.
If true, this would confirm what I've suspected all along: that 90% of buyers don't care about matte displays, and that the tiny minority who do are just very, very vocal.
Because they're doing colour-sensitive photo editing work that absolutely requires a matte display?I understand the "creative professionals need matte displays" argument, but this just sounds like whining...
Actually that's exactly what I do. I do almost all of my work on my mac pro which does have color calibrated screens. However I've got increasing time available away from that machine in which I would like to work, so I'm wanting a powerful portable with a matte display that calibrates well.
But besides that, I already own a glossy laptop - it's a dell that my wife uses and the reflections on it drive me absolutely insane. I can't tell you how much they annoy me, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.
That's YOUR opinion. To YOUR eyes.
I also have used both glossy and matte and I note a HUGE difference. And that is not even the "glassy" which is even worse.
It's kind of like how people have different auditory perceptive abilities. You may or may not know that teens use a very high pitched ringtone on cell phones that folks my age can't even hear. I bought a college age kid a product called the "annoyatron" (very funny, from geeks.com) which emits several noises at random invervals and is designed to drive someone nuts as a practical joke. Well that high pitched noise I can't even hear, AT ALL. But all the younger kids could easily hear it.
Your eyes apparently are not bothered by the glare of a glassy screen. That is the same for many other folks that prefer that screen. However there ARE those of us who are very annoyed by them, just like the annoyatron..... For you to say it's no big deal would be like me telling those kids that that annoyatron didn't make any noise.
Umm, apple ditching firewire was a dumbass thing to do. Just like ditching matte screens.
That's kinda hard to do when considering a laptop to run OSX and needs to be a matte display....
Well technically they are not wrong; Apple no longer sells any models with a non-glossy display in retail stores; the only way to get the 17" with anti-glare is a built-to-order, that is a special order; yes if you buy from BH they don't sell the anti-glare version.
Two words: Lenovo W700
Edit: I see you're hung up on the OS. Hmmm, well...life is full of compromises, I guess. I use apps and not OS's, but some people think otherwise.
What do you want from them? How is a complete redesign of the shell, screen, logic board, graphics processor, and track pad, not a dramatic change? It's certainly the most dramatic change they've made since the MacBook/Pro replaced the iBook/Powerbook. Even more so from an appearance POV.Yeah. I was responding to the comment about replacing your kids' iMac. I doubt they're doing colour-sensitive graphics and layout work. Unless you really make them earn their allowance.
I'm not saying a speed boost is going to happen next Tuesday, but maybe as early as WWDC in June?
There's a chance that matte screens were produced in a single batch, for this run, and Apple's more distant markets are starting to show a run larger than Apple expected?
Powerbooks have been basically the same since the Titanium in 2001 (My favorite design
)ok just as a sort of related tip to people outside of the US who would like to purchase items available only in the US, there are ways for you to get things done easily.
You can basically contact a friendly UPS store or Mailboxes etc store in advance and arrange to have your item sent to the store and forwarded to you, you can use cheaper USPS global or package to forward, they do that at the UPS store I know. They charge 5 to 10 bucks to receive your package. This could very useful to people who get good deals on items usually not available where they area.
The store i use is the UPS store in Ogdensburg NY. I live in Ottawa, Canada nearby and I have also been there to collect items. I have called up and enquired and they would do it all via credit card without you ever being there. They are really busy so get your act together before calling. Hope this helps someone.
You can basically contact a friendly UPS store or Mailboxes etc store in advance and arrange to have your item sent to the store and forwarded to you, you can use cheaper USPS global or package to forward, they do that at the UPS store I know. They charge 5 to 10 bucks to receive your package. This could very useful to people who get good deals on items usually not available where they area.
The store i use is the UPS store in Ogdensburg NY. I live in Ottawa, Canada nearby and I have also been there to collect items. I have called up and enquired and they would do it all via credit card without you ever being there. They are really busy so get your act together before calling. Hope this helps someone.
Really? You are making a very big assumption here that cost is identical for Apple. If that 10% would take 90% of the effort (and thus cost), I am sure you would scream at them to make em ditch it.
Let's face it, as a company, Apple doesn't really want CTO orders. They don't really care about the graphics bizz. All they want is to sell computers, as much as they can and preferably all the same to reduce cost and increase profits. They are not in business to satisfy customers, they are in the business of making money. Satisfying certain types of customers is just a means to return orders and make more money.
The bigger Apple grows, the more you are SOL if you are in a business with specialized requirements as they will more and more focus on the bulk for easy money.
BHPhotovideo has the Macbook Pro with Antiglare listed as Accepting Orders (special order). Upon further enquiry though, they are not.
You fail to mention that most pro CRT's have anti-reflective coatings. Once high end LCDs by Lacie Eizo Dell Samsung Viewsonic HP etc, start slapping reflective glass on front, I'll be convinced of your argument.
Options?
1. Buy a good external monitor and use that whenever possible at your main workstation.
2. Find a last gen MBP with matte, and pray that the nvidia 8600 defects that many people are complaining about doesn't affect you. Buy applecare under all circumstances if you go this route.
3. If you're needs are not truly demanding, find a matte mpb that still has the ati video card.
My fiancee's windows machine died, so she got my 2.4 unibody MBP. I found a good deal on a 2.33 15" MBP with a matte screen, and I primarily use that at home. Of the two, I have to admit that I prefer the matte screen.
I wonder if age has anything to do with people's personal preferences on the screen issue?
1. Buy a good external monitor and use that whenever possible at your main workstation.
2. Find a last gen MBP with matte, and pray that the nvidia 8600 defects that many people are complaining about doesn't affect you. Buy applecare under all circumstances if you go this route.
3. If you're needs are not truly demanding, find a matte mpb that still has the ati video card.
My fiancee's windows machine died, so she got my 2.4 unibody MBP. I found a good deal on a 2.33 15" MBP with a matte screen, and I primarily use that at home. Of the two, I have to admit that I prefer the matte screen.
I wonder if age has anything to do with people's personal preferences on the screen issue?
Did you even bother to read Mark's link? He is stating very simple, verifiable facts.
Now you could have a personal preference to matte over gloss, that's great. But don't go about saying it is 'better', when there is zero technical arguments to back up that claim.
Now you could have a personal preference to matte over gloss, that's great. But don't go about saying it is 'better', when there is zero technical arguments to back up that claim.