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Today, most camera phones make decent photos. The differences are mice nuts.

What's much more important is the person making the photograph. The strength of a photo is pretty much determined by the photographer's imagination, life experiences, creativity, understanding light and composition, and more.

I've been shooting with my iPhone almost exclusively for the last few years. And for the photos I like to make it works just fine.


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I am a photographer and if I sent a client something like that for commercial work it would stain my name lol. I get that for the untrained eye it is fine but for others and Apple's reputation in the art industry. Well.

So you're saying your clients have trained eyes?

If that's true (which I'm pretty sure it's not - I just don't think you've thought this through), I'm going to say, "Well duh."... try not sending phone photos to people of that caliber.
 
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So you're saying your clients have trained eyes?

If that's true (which I'm pretty sure it's not - I just don't think you've thought this through), I'm going to say, "Well duh."... try not sending phone photos to people of that caliber.
U r pretty sure that clients spending thousands of $ for a photoshoot and working for decades in the field have no clue how a quality bokeh picture looks?

Sure. We all are :rolleyes:
 
The photos shown don't come out directly from the iPhone. They have been retouched with software, such as photo app, lightroom, or similar software.
 
U r pretty sure that clients spending thousands of $ for a photoshoot and working for decades in the field have no clue how a quality bokeh picture looks?

Sure. We all are :rolleyes:

Aside from me struggling to understand what you’re trying to say... no, I didn’t say that at all. Go back and read what I said.
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The photos shown don't come out directly from the iPhone. They have been retouched with software, such as photo app, lightroom, or similar software.

How do you know that?
 
Would be nice if macrumors would write articles that read more like independent journalism and less like Apple PR.

When you read the article it feels like we are all inside an Apple bubble, pointing out features like TrueDepth and low light improvements yadayada.

Why not make at least a reference that the iPhone is behind by a LOT in low light scenarios since it lacks Night Sight like the Pixel phones have now?
At the end of the day I prefer articles that show the entire story aka. reality thus being a thorn in the flesh of Apple. So they can feel some pressure and work on these features that iPhone users are lacking at the moment. Because in the end the customer will benefit from this.
I prefer this over articles which are eyecandy for Apples PR department. Because what they want to see is the repeat of their own words.

But I have a bad feeling that we will read about such a lowlight feature in a year, when everyone will repeat what is going to be told in next year's iPhone event by Tim Cook & Co: "we are bringing a completely new lowlight feature which has never been seen before (to the new iphone)"

So please macrumors. You are our voice. Lets not meet in a year with the same article, with the only difference being advertising the lowlight shots (on the new iphone).
 
Would be nice if macrumors would write articles that read more like independent journalism and less like Apple PR.

At the end of the day I prefer articles that show the entire story aka. reality thus being a thorn in the flesh of Apple. So they can feel some pressure and work on these features that iPhone users are lacking at the moment. Because in the end the customer will benefit from this.

Dude, you must be completely blind to not notice the sheer insane levels of negativity that exists in every corner of the internet already. (for more than just phones) It's so pervasive, I breathe out a sigh of relief when I read an article that doesn't consist of bitching and moaning about what's wrong with the iPhone and just reports what's happened. Apple don't need whiny articles as a thorn in their flesh. They have sales numbers as a motivator.

Is it okay that somewhere, at some point, someone just says, "Oh, this is a nice thing." without Captain Negative of Internet Land popping up and saying, "Errr, this reads like a paid advert." It's just as idiotic as the guy saying he wouldn't try and sell an iPhone photo to his client. Just take a moment enjoy the positives.

On a side note, Pixel phones just ripped off this night sight thing from Huawei who's been doing it for a year, so it's not like they're cutting edge. Plus, Apple don't tend to be first to market with things. Because iPhones *generally* aim for a more balanced image, I'm sure what you're after is just around the corner... but Apple's probably busy tweaking things.
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I think for what it is, the iPhone camera is amazing.

But whenever I take a great picture with my iPhone I just think “man I wish I had taken this photo with my Sony A7R.

Yeah, but your A7R doesn't fit in your pocket.
 
Today, most camera phones make decent photos. The differences are mice nuts.

What's much more important is the person making the photograph. The strength of a photo is pretty much determined by the photographer's imagination, life experiences, creativity, understanding light and composition, and more.

I've been shooting with my iPhone almost exclusively for the last few years. And for the photos I like to make it works just fine.
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I totally agree with all that, however... I believe for anyone who takes photography seriously, phone cameras do have a lot of limitations. Their tiny image sensor can only do so much (not to mention the lens) and most serious photographers would want to work on proper RAW files. But yeah, on great lighting conditions, on the hands of someone who knows what is doing, phone cameras can do a great photos.
 
I totally agree with all that, however... I believe for anyone who takes photography seriously, phone cameras do have a lot of limitations. Their tiny image sensor can only do so much (not to mention the lens) and most serious photographers would want to work on proper RAW files. But yeah, on great lighting conditions, on the hands of someone who knows what is doing, phone cameras can do a great photos.

Just FYI that you can use proper raw files...
 
Dude, you must be completely blind to not notice the sheer insane levels of negativity that exists in every corner of the internet already. (for more than just phones) It's so pervasive, I breathe out a sigh of relief when I read an article that doesn't consist of bitching and moaning about what's wrong with the iPhone and just reports what's happened. Apple don't need whiny articles as a thorn in their flesh. They have sales numbers as a motivator.

Is it okay that somewhere, at some point, someone just says, "Oh, this is a nice thing." without Captain Negative of Internet Land popping up and saying, "Errr, this reads like a paid advert." It's just as idiotic as the guy saying he wouldn't try and sell an iPhone photo to his client. Just take a moment enjoy the positives.

I dont 100% understand you. It reads like Apple is a charity organisation and is giving iPhones out for free.
I am talking about a "phone" that passed the 1000 dollar mark, in which a lot of development goes into. I can expect it to be an industry leading device in every aspect of what its doing. Because ultimately thats what Apple is exactly advertising this device as.
So if they claim something, I have the right to deny something that doesnt correspond to the truth. This is how free speech works.

I am also trying to be a good person. So if your happiness depends on reading positive articles about a trillion dollar company, I can send you some letters, talking only good stuff about them to brighten up your day.
 
I dont 100% understand you. It reads like Apple is a charity organisation and is giving iPhones out for free.
I am talking about a "phone" that passed the 1000 dollar mark, in which a lot of development goes into. I can expect it to be an industry leading device in every aspect of what its doing. Because ultimately thats what Apple is exactly advertising this device as.
So if they claim something, I have the right to deny something that doesnt correspond to the truth. This is how free speech works.

I am also trying to be a good person. So if your happiness depends on reading positive articles about a trillion dollar company, I can send you some letters, talking only good stuff about them to brighten up your day.

I'm pretty sure "free speech" is an American thing... but whatever, sure. Say whatever you want.

What you're saying is, "I just want to complain." Go nuts on that one also. I can't stop you. But I can make the point that less negativity is a totally acceptable, and even a reasonable thing. But hey, that all said, let me take a moment to talk about how utter garbage the new Pixel phone is compared to my $5k+ DSLR. The resolving power is just ridiculously poor by comparison. The same with the iPhone too. Honestly I think they need to update all articles for these two phones to reflect that truth, because right now everything is just so one sided. This is so both Google and Apple have a thorn in the side that pushes them to do better.

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You mean the tweaked version of it for which you have to download a third party app? Yes, I am aware. Not my thing.

What do you mean by 'tweaked'? You just use an app that can shoot dng or whatever you like. This isn't tweaking. This is something Apple has enabled, but don't use in the camera app (for obvious reasons).

I'll assume you're aware, but all jpeg files are created from raw sensor data. So... it's just giving access to the raw data. If anything can be described as 'tweaked' it's the jpegs. But... fill me in on what you mean.
 
800x600 again.
Seriously?
Show it in full resolution or at least in the acceptable resolution for a monitor.
Or have I missed something and the era of computer is over?

These were made with my iPhone X.
Look at the details and try to show me what XR/XS can do better.
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800x600 again.
Seriously?
Show it in full resolution or at least in the acceptable resolution for a monitor.
Or have I missed something and the era of computer is over?

These were made with my iPhone X.
Look at the details and try to show me what XR/XS can do better.
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Nice shots. The Xs has amazing highlight recovery. Even shooting raw on my 7 Plus and using Lightroom's highlight recovery, the Xs handled highlights better. I can't say I've done a direct X to Xs comparison, but Apple's advertised highlight recovery for the Xs is impressive. Obviously if you can set your exposure right it's for the most part not a big deal. But it is good.

The Xs also has improvements to vertical panos. If you try it on your X, the exposure will often be blown out. But this has been resolved on the Xs.
 
Apple is always trying to highlight photos taken on the iPhone.
Sadly, if thats the best that can be done with false lighting set-ups and professional photographers then I'd stop highlighting it.
 
Anyone commenting on photo quality minutiae viewed on the internet loses credibility to me.

Oh, so person commenting on internet post about quality of photo looses his credibility viewing pictures on internet?

Wow, I hope he will apologize to you, to gain his respect back. :)
 
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So you're saying your clients have trained eyes?

If that's true (which I'm pretty sure it's not - I just don't think you've thought this through), I'm going to say, "Well duh."... try not sending phone photos to people of that caliber.
Wow, take a turn for negative town. If clients didn't want good quality they wouldn't pay for decent service prices. Anyway, don't reply, another red notification by you is just going to be annoying from now on.
 
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