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Let its CEO remain in the job 10 years past his usefulness.

10 years and counting ...

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Maybe Apple is the problem as opposed to everyone else around the world who tries to hold them to account?

At some point one has to look around and take note of all the jurisdictions that have issues with how they conduct themselves….
Maybe the devs are the problem who want to use Apple for their vessel and be completely unaccountable to anybody.
 
Yeah, I don't get this one at all. Who is being wronged here? The users? Advertisers? Google, Facebook? What?
 
No they don’t. Especially not the built in system apps

Not the same prompt, no. But a very much similar prompt during device setup to allow Apple apps to use tracking. And that is a yes / no question. And every built in app adheres to it.

A third party app can't really use that setting. Even not an Apple app from the app store. And they ALL have that message if they have any form of user tracking.
 
Tim, go fight the fine. But grant their wish by tracking French people without a popup.
 
App Tracking Transparency has nothing to do with personalized ads or a company tracking you across its own apps. It has to do with one company tracking you across other companies’ apps or sharing your data from their app with another company. Is there any evidence Apple does either?

Meta isn’t required to ask for permission to track you across Facebook and Instagram, for example.
With how secretive Apple is, we as consumers don't really know.

Given how Apple has been wearing down their good-will reputation recently, I'm starting to doubt them instead of believing their marketing material at face value as before.
 
Given how Apple has been wearing down their good-will reputation recently, I'm starting to doubt them instead of believing their marketing material at face value as before.

This is an excellent point

They've managed to really erode their "benefit of the doubt" trust factor.

I'm personally to the point of leaning towards not fully trusting what Apple say anymore, which would not have been the case for me say a decade ago.

Perhaps I was wrong then .... but it feels like it has shifted in the last few years in particular.

I mean ... we have Gruber, of all people, roasting them at times now.
Times have changed for sure.
 
Thank you for making my point.

This is not EU ruling, it’s at the national French level. Completely different. Similar to how extreme conservative red states coexist with progressive blue states.
I'm aware. I was stating European as in rulings that come from European countries, not the EU specifically.
 
the uk economy is suffering badly. Brexit was a big mistake. so Apple is an easy target for much needed money.
$162 mil is a blip on the radar for the UK and French economies.

It'd make a difference for a sub-billion GDP country, but if you've resorted to shaking down foreign businesses to fix your balance sheet you have other problems.
 
No. If you read the second paragraph, you would really know the real reason. It states that the authority does not consider ATT itself as a problem, but rather the way Apple is implementing it. The way Apple implements is creates friction for third party app publishers whereas it does not do the same for Apple's apps. That is the reason for the fine. I am surprised that you did not even make it till the second para :)
Apple doesn't track across apps! So ATT shouldn't apply to them
 
Maybe users they way you think are the problem honestly, the gov is never on your side period.
Those users are lucky that the majority of the tech world isn’t like them, or they wouldn’t have that device they’re typing on to post on this forum! It’d be some older worse device that the government decided was “good enough”.

And, in this case, the government is doing the bidding of the pervasive ad networks that no longer have free reign to build very valuable profiles on everyone their ads get shown to, inside and outside apps. The government is doing something because companies that were doing a bad thing complained.
 
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