Oh, weird. Nevertheless, a local backup still includes far more data than an iCloud backup so my point stands.
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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over iCloud Backups
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Oh, weird. Nevertheless, a local backup still includes far more data than an iCloud backup so my point stands.
I don’t think people are worried about Google so much as “Free iPhone backup service very secure free service” that’s definitely not (😉) provided by the CCP.
This is something I can get behind.
Microsoft 365 Family is $129 a year… includes 1 TB of storage, Office, and 5 other seats for these benefits.
Why can’t I use OneDrive to backup my iPhone?
Microsoft 365 Family is $129 a year… includes 1 TB of storage, Office, and 5 other seats for these benefits.
Why can’t I use OneDrive to backup my iPhone?
iCloud's prices seem in line with competitors.
Provider | Monthly Price |
|---|---|
iCloud 2TB | $9.99/month |
Dropbox 2TB | $9.99/month ("Plus" plan) |
Google One 2TB | $9.99/month ("Premium" plan) |
Microsoft OneDrive 1TB | $9.99/month (6TB for $12.99/month though) |
Sync.com 2TB | $8.00/month ("Pro Solo" plan, annual billing only) |
Mega 2TB | €9.99/month ("Pro I" plan) |
Any legal challenge against Apple’s monopolising business practices is good and deserved.
I don’t know whether we need such choice if online backup provider (I mean… Apple claim it’s all E2E encrypted, so it should be secure, right?). Have never really cared or thought about it.
But given the anticompetitive brazenness and malicious compliance with which they defied previous rulings and laws (Epic ruling, EU Digital Markets act), no stone should be left unturned about Apple’s business practices that prevent competition.
I trust the United States District Court for the Northern District of California to handle these cases fairly but effectively.
I don’t know whether we need such choice if online backup provider (I mean… Apple claim it’s all E2E encrypted, so it should be secure, right?). Have never really cared or thought about it.
But given the anticompetitive brazenness and malicious compliance with which they defied previous rulings and laws (Epic ruling, EU Digital Markets act), no stone should be left unturned about Apple’s business practices that prevent competition.
I trust the United States District Court for the Northern District of California to handle these cases fairly but effectively.
Given that she doesn’t own a computer, I’m going to assume she is not tech savvy, and therefore wouldn’t be able to set up any other backup solution. If she loses or breaks the phone or iPad, all her data is gone.
She’s better off with iCloud and its automatic backup. It may cost more than some competitors, but that’s the price of convenience.
There is no monopolized business practice. The word monopoly has been thrown around to such an extent characterizing Apple as such it’s a meaningless meme.
The DMA is terrible legislation. Period. Anyway we all have our views.
The DMA is terrible legislation. Period. Anyway we all have our views.
I said NAS because I have one running in my garage. It's a Synology J216 with a whopping 512mb of RAM and a v7 32 bit ARM processor. It runs SMB and a Time Machine host, which makes it ideal for backing up my iPhone, as it already backs up my mac and PCs.
Your solution requires that I buy a server and Windows license, and it's not like I get rid of backing up to a Windows PC, you've just moved the PC out of my office and into my garage.
So you don't want to use a Mac. You don't want to use a Windows PC. You don't want to upgrade a 9 year old NAS. You want USA to change the laws just so that you can back up to a decade old machine directly.
😂 Alright, sounds good.
It would be nice if Apple raised the free storage a bit (8GB? 10GB?) and/or gave you free storage per active device (that has a backup on iCloud and has updated that backup in the last 30 days, say), so that the default is encouraging, rather than discouraging, people to have multiple Apple devices. But that seems like Apple's call to make. Not a judge's. Particularly given that there's a free wired solution available for any Mac/PC.
(Hmm, now I'm wondering if someone could develop a Single Board Computer-based backup solution just for backing up iPhones / iPads - though I suppose the stumbling block would be the cost of the license for a stripped-down version of Windows to run on it. I don't suppose Apple would make a client for the Raspberry Pi.)
(Hmm, now I'm wondering if someone could develop a Single Board Computer-based backup solution just for backing up iPhones / iPads - though I suppose the stumbling block would be the cost of the license for a stripped-down version of Windows to run on it. I don't suppose Apple would make a client for the Raspberry Pi.)
This could be great. The prices for iCloud storage are absolutely excessive, and I have high hopes that Apple will be forced to open up its system further.
I would welcome two possible solutions, though I clearly prefer the first:
I would welcome two possible solutions, though I clearly prefer the first:
- Apple must allow other providers as cloud storage options. These providers would then handle the complete online storage of all data. For this, the data would be encrypted on the device beforehand so that the provider or any third parties cannot access the actual content.
- At the very least, option 1 should be available for the photo library. In that case, most people would only need the basic iCloud tier or perhaps the first upgrade level. I'm not sure whether others may also have large music or other data libraries, but the same principle should apply to those as it does to photos.
If you want to backup your iPhone, don't expect to do if for free just because the 5GB are not enough.
Or don't buy an iPhone.
Or don't buy an iPhone.
These “Apple has a monopoly” suits are getting old. All of this is likely attorney led for cash, but it’s also stemming from people’s sense of entitlement that they should get what they want and if they don’t like the options available, they sue. And yes, don’t kid yourself, there ARE other options. I use Apple’s backup options, not because I have to, but because it’s the easiest. If we start allowing third-party companies to access everything, we might as well just rename iOS to Android: Apple Edition. I don’t want to be having to restart my phone, or restore from backup every two weeks because some half-ass third party company has terrible security practices or secretly installs things I don’t want on my phone.
All this to say: If you don’t like how Apple does things, you have other options.
All this to say: If you don’t like how Apple does things, you have other options.
This is true. The only reason I pay for iCloud (I was already using and paying for Google drive) is because it feels like I have to. I couldn’t do WhatsApp backups any other way. I think there are a few other apps like that. I still only pay for the bare minimum and do local backups on my computer instead of paying for iCloud. But I don’t remember feeling like I had to pay for Google drive when I was in Android quite the way I’ve felt I have to pay for iCloud on iPhone.
Absolute rubbish. Filing lawsuits are easy, winning is tough. This is not a law enacted by congress as is the DMA. This is a lawsuit that may not get any traction.
Pejorative nonsense.
