Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over iCloud Backups

[I7guy]

Any legal challenge against Apple’s monopolising business practices is good and deserved.

I don’t know whether we need such choice if online backup provider (I mean… Apple claim it’s all E2E encrypted, so it should be secure, right?). Have never really cared or thought about it.

But given the anticompetitive brazenness and malicious compliance with which they defied previous rulings and laws (Epic ruling, EU Digital Markets act), no stone should be left unturned about Apple’s business practices that prevent competition.

I trust the United States District Court for the Northern District of California to handle these cases fairly but effectively.

I’m sure not every decision that comes out of that district is one you agree with. But the law is the law. And as the great yogi Berra said: “it’s not over till it’s over”.

 

[MacRumorsElite]

so, you can back up everything on an external cloud service except for critical iPhone personal data. 5GB is likely sufficient for that for most people. Seems like these lawsuits are mostly about dismantling the ease that the Apple ecosystem enables. (iCloud makes backups easy; it is a little less easy to use a different system. 🤷‍♂️)

I agree, it seems these lawsuits want to dismantle Apples Ecosystem and security for nefarious reasons. Seems like some jealousy and pettiness to me…

 

[MacRumorsElite]

Here in the UK, the lowest level of iCloud storage (outside of that provided free) costs £0.99 (US$1.33) for 50GB. That's basically useless, so most pay £2.99 ($4) for the 200GB level. if you've a handful of Apple devices then that's only just enough.

These are ripoff prices.

Storage is storage. It's just data centres. It's not special super-duper Apple storage.

That's why this matters.

If Apple wasn't wholesale abusing its position, people might not care so much.

It’s not just “storage”, system level data shouldn’t be backed up beyond Apples ecosystem for obvious common freaking sense reasons like SECURITY…

 

[throAU]

Apple's prices for storage are exorbitant. They are charging 4x what other companies (like Dropbox) charge.

Read dropbox's privacy policy.

They are not the same service.

 

[byebyeapple]

Absolute rubbish. Filing lawsuits are easy, winning is tough. This is not a law enacted by congress as is the DMA. This is a lawsuit that may not get any traction.

Pejorative nonsense.

You’re oversimplifying — and conveniently ignoring key facts.

This isn’t just “a lawsuit that may not get any traction.” It’s a case that has already survived Apple’s motion to dismiss after the court reviewed what it called “substantial new allegations.” That means the Northern District of California found the plaintiffs’ antitrust claims to be sufficiently plausible to move forward. That’s not nothing — that’s a federal court acknowledging there’s a real legal question here.

Also, no one confused this with legislation like the DMA. The point — which you sidestepped — is that regulatory and legal pressure on Apple doesn’t just come from the EU. It now comes from within the U.S. judicial system itself, backed by formal legal process, not just vague opinions. If that doesn’t signal a systemic issue, what does?

And yes, I called out a particular kind of forum rhetoric — the reflexive anti-EU, Apple-can-do-no-wrong crowd. If you’re more offended by that than by Apple effectively locking users into a paid storage tier for full device functionality, you might want to check your priorities.

Facts first. The court sees enough merit to proceed. We’ll see what Apple has to say by July 7.

 

[I7guy]

You’re oversimplifying — and conveniently ignoring key facts.

This isn’t just “a lawsuit that may not get any traction.” It’s a case that has already survived Apple’s motion to dismiss after the court reviewed what it called “substantial new allegations.” That means the Northern District of California found the plaintiffs’ antitrust claims to be sufficiently plausible to move forward. That’s not nothing — that’s a federal court acknowledging there’s a real legal question here.

Also, no one confused this with legislation like the DMA. The point — which you sidestepped — is that regulatory and legal pressure on Apple doesn’t just come from the EU. It now comes from within the U.S. judicial system itself, backed by formal legal process, not just vague opinions. If that doesn’t signal a systemic issue, what does?

And yes, I called out a particular kind of forum rhetoric — the reflexive anti-EU, Apple-can-do-no-wrong crowd. If you’re more offended by that than by Apple effectively locking users into a paid storage tier for full device functionality, you might want to check your priorities.

Facts first. The court sees enough merit to proceed. We’ll see what Apple has to say by July 7.

The bottom line is not all suits go the way people think they go. Remember the FaceTime bug breach suit? MR forum members thought Apple was going down for that and it was dismissed. Never know how things are going to turn out.

 

[byebyeapple]

The bottom line is not all suits go the way people think they go. Remember the FaceTime bug breach suit? MR forum members thought Apple was going down for that and it was dismissed. Never know how things are going to turn out.

You’re right that lawsuits can go either way — but that’s no excuse to dismiss this one out of hand. The FaceTime bug case you mentioned involved a very specific privacy breach, and it was legally and technically quite different. In contrast, the current iCloud case has already passed a key hurdle: a federal judge found the antitrust allegations plausible enough to proceed. That’s not a prediction of guilt — it’s a recognition that there’s a serious legal issue here. Pretending otherwise is just willful ignorance.

As for the “it’s about security!” argument — please. Encryption and secure key management aren’t exclusive to Apple. It’s perfectly possible to allow secure third-party backups if the goal is user control rather than ecosystem lock-in. Other companies manage to do exactly that without compromising security. The fact that Apple blocks system-level backup access while pushing users toward paid storage speaks volumes about its actual priorities.

And finally, to the person who asked “are you mentally slow?” and afterwards cowardly deleted their post —
I’ll keep this simple enough that even you can follow: when your argument requires an insult, you’ve already lost. If you can’t participate in a discussion without resorting to personal attacks, you’re not debating — you’re just lashing out. Try harder.