These monopoly lawsuits keep getting more and more outlandish. At this rate Apple will soon be sued for unfairly monopolizing iPhone sales.
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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over iCloud Backups
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At some point, users have to take responsibility for their own purchasing decisions.
All of these Apple lawsuits can be broadly defined as “I didn’t do any research at all before buying a product.”If you want to use a different backup service, sync to a mac, and backup the mac.
But otherwise, no, sorry, this is a security issue.
But otherwise, no, sorry, this is a security issue.
Look you, I don’t need you coming here with your facts and your “ability to perform a simple google search before typing” to alter my world view that Apple is 4x more than DropBox!! /s
How is that different than backing up to a mac? All you've done is force me to buy a server to run a NAS on, I still can't backup my iPhone wirelessly.
With the amount of money I’m sure they make on these Services, it boggles my mind why they don’t offer them on Android. I know that’s not the topic here, but when you get down to it… if their argument is “security” here, the lack of offering this on other platforms or alternatives on their own… it falls flat. If you attempt to migrate to another platform or OS, you’re left with exporting passwords in clear text, turning off data protection, exposing yourself - even if for only a brief moment. It’s counter to what they claim.
The issue isn't that Apple isn't providing it for free, it's that they aren't providing it for free, but also actively blocking other companies from implementing their own. It's the exact same reasoning that the EU forced open the app store - on iOS, there's a monopoly on backup: Apple, or none.
And before you say "Just backup to a computer"
* Not everyone owns a computer
* Not all computers support backing up to (remember Apple said the iPad is a computer!)
* Even if you can backup, it doesn't back everything up
* Per some users, backup using Windows has been broken for about a year.
* Even if you meet all of the requirements, it's cumbersome at best, designed to push people towards a Wireless backup provider (of which Apple only allows me to pick from one option, Apple). That's using one monopoly to force users into specific purchasing patterns, which is very much an anti-trust move.
You don't, if the case settles (which it won't, it'll get dismissed on the blatantly obvious statute of limitations basis) you may be entitled to like $5 as a class member.
What's the issue? Did you discover something? Is, say, Google Drive a security issue? More so than iCloud? Do elaborate.
No doubt the free storage on iCloud is way too less and it doesn't look like Apple is ever planning to change this. Will be interesting to see how this case goes ahead.
Apple isn't actively blocking other companies from implementing backups, they just aren't putting in the work to enable it. Third-party apps don't have access to things like Health info, passwords, Apple Pay, etc. because of the patently obvious security and privacy risks that would pose. Android doesn't allow it either, for the same reason.
And your last 3 bullets, at least, are nonsense: (1) A local backup includes everything on the phone, which is why they're typically 100GB+. It's the iCloud backups that are only partial; (2) I don't really care what "some users" claim (you can find "some users" claiming literally everything), backing up on Windows is fully supported; and (3) local backups existed long before iCloud was even a sparkle in Steve's eye, and they've been maintained for nearly 20 years because they're more complete and more secure, and many users prefer them.
Claims under the Sherman Act must be brought within 4 years of the cause of action accruing. Here, that would be within 4 years of either Apple implementing iCloud backups or Apple gaining a monopoly position in the relevant market. Either way, that has long since lapsed. The only reason it hasn't been dismissed on that ground yet is because there are factual issues to be determined by discovery.
It doesn't include the apps any longer, no matter how you backup...Those are re-downloaded from the App Store, with the most current version, when restoring.
Sucks if you were holding off installing a new version of a particular app, for whatever reason, or if the app no longer available.
You're the one giving me the requirement that it has to be on a NAS. Install a VM on the NAS and back up to that NAS.
And now you're asking how is it different? What? It's different in that a Mac doesn't sit between your iPhone and the NAS. That's the difference. 🤦♂️
You were the one that said "I'd like to have my iPhone backup to my NAS"! Install a vm on that NAS and you can backup wirelessly without having a Mac as a middle man. I literally have 2x Windows 7 VMs running on my QNAP NAS.
I have no idea what you're trying to argue about. I've given you a literal solution to your highly specific problem that majority of customers will never encounter.
There are pepole here that would love to join that lawsuit, it is hard enough to get pepole to backup their phones, this will make it worse.
>> arguing that Apple's system effectively coerces users into subscribing to its paid storage tiers.
It most certainly does that.
It most certainly does that.
Apple 2TB is cheaper than Dropbox 2TB, what are you talking about?
I keep three backups, two at my home, one offsite, and rotate them out every two weeks.
None of them are connected to a network. I'm not concerned.
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All iPhones use USB-C and have supported external hard drives for years. And portable 500GB SSDs – way more than most iPhones can store – have been pretty affordable for years.
Is there any reason for iOS not to support the option of simply backing up to a user's personal SSD (optionally encrypting them with appropriate user credentials if privacy is indeed the concern)?
Is there any reason for iOS not to support the option of simply backing up to a user's personal SSD (optionally encrypting them with appropriate user credentials if privacy is indeed the concern)?
I for one need the 2TB storage as I have more than 1 iPad, iPhone, and have children with iPhones, iPads and an Apple Watch. 1TB isn’t enough for the 3 of us.