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I feel like attempting to explain the program to those who don't entirely understand, and why this can be an issue.

Let's assume a situation where you get two phones with the program:

Phone one costs $2400. However after 12 payments of $100 at $1200 you can upgrade by trading in your old phone and getting another. So in theory you spend $1200 on that phone, trade it in, and pay off the new one, totaling $3600.

Second customer winds up upgrading late. They paid 14 payments of $100 at $1400, then traded in for their new phone, and paid the $2400. Well they paid $3800 in total, winding up with the same product as the previous customer, and spending $200 more than they should have.

It isn't technically illegal, as customers have options to wait. However, the customer wasn't allowed (in the second instance) to be able to use their upgrade the way that they wanted to for a product that should have been available for purchase, and it cost them extra money for that reason. And they ended up with the same phone as the first customer.

I personally started this program back in May because I anticipated this might be an issue. The way I see it, it's taking them time to add that new camera feature anyway, and I'm sure some of my apps won't be optimized at the start, so it doesn't bother me not having the phone day one.

This is true in many cases, I would believe. There's probably a handful of customers who are upset they aren't getting a launch day device, but I'm in this boat. Actually, after I got over the disappointment, I moreso realized that I didn't know what to expect this year for IUP. In a way, I was expecting to be perfect. Although, with the headache caused this year, not really sure I would stay in the IUP.
 
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I want it and want it NOW.:rolleyes:
I'm confused. From reading the forums lately, I thought this was the least desired upgrade since.... ever? :rolleyes:;):D
Getting my Jet-Black 7+ also, once the dust settles.

LOL! People need their iPhones, they're like crack!
You've gotta feel just a little bit bad for Apple at times like these. The fact that they have to spend so much time and energy defending ridiculous lawsuits such as this one, while they were merely trying to create an easy yearly upgrade plan for the most satisfied and well-heeled of their clientele. Time and resources that could have been better spent on other more important things. The ugly face of human greed I suppose.
 
Brilliant for the lawyers - now they can claim that they solved the "problem" no matter what Apple announces to help the folks out.
 
Ok all you dips **** Hillary voters who know nothing and can't read. Its not about standing in line. Its about not even being able to get one on order at all. We were told to check in later and then see the dates slip to November. After getting up at 3am and at 3:03 showing all out sorry. BUT, Apple is doing something about it already. And if you call them and ask for the upgrade specialist they will help you.

I agree with your perspective. I'm also a Hillary supporter, so don't see how you connect the 2. Makes no sense. Keep the politics out of it.
 
People are just hating on the people suing without understanding why they are actually doing it. While I too think suing this soon is an overreaction, I do not think they are totally wrong.
 
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First come, first serve folks. Just because you're already in the upgrade program doesn't give you premium access to a new iPhone every time.

Except that's not what Apple are doing. Apple aren't allowing them to come 'first', or second. They're not allowed to place an order for their desired model at all and accept the delayed shipping time. They have to 'check back' later just to be able to place an order.

If this isn't explained in the contract, then people have a right to seek a financial remedy from Apple.
 
I've bought plenty of things on installment payments. And just maybe I don't have an inflated sense of entitlement.

They kept their word to make you eligible to buy. They offer the device for sale starting Friday. They will happily sell you a phone provided you find one in stock or reserve one when you can. We already know when reservations will go live again.

Those are your choices and what you are actually promised.

But in the real world they can't sell you something they don't have any more of.

Just be patient and if you want it you'll get it eventually.
 
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Yes.

Sound ridiculous: yes.

Valid financial argument: yes.

Not necessarily. Anyone have a copy of the upgrade program agreement? I'm going to bet that it's pretty clear that Day 1 upgrades (or Day 2 or 3 or...) are not guaranteed. The only valid argument is the contractual one.
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You won't say this if you were the one affected. If a company like Apple cannot keep their word then who can?

Really? If I were the one affected I would realize that my life does not change one frikking iota if I get the phone a few days, weeks, or even months after it comes out. The latter would be unfair, but the fact is that this is a bloody phone. Just a phone, not substantially different from the phone they already have. If a new phone changes their lives so profoundly then they have problems far greater than the upgrade program.
 
First come, first serve folks. Just because you're already in the upgrade program doesn't give you premium access to a new iPhone every time.

What a massive joke.

Except, it's not first come first serve.

It's first come, "oh, you're on the iPhone Upgrade Program, specifically designed to get you the next iPhone every 12 months? Here, go to this line, which is super slow, and has a small percentage of the inventory that we're offering everyone, and is annoyingly frustrating. Good luck getting the iPhone you want!"

The massive joke this year is iPhone Upgrade Program, not this justified lawsuit.
 
They don't even promise it at the one year mark. You have the option to upgrade after 12 payments. The 12th payment was August 26th for those that signed up day one last year. You can upgrade any time after August 26th. That's the only promise you are given and that was fulfilled.
I suppose you'd have to revisit the definition of the word "upgrade" is. If I am offered an iPhone that has features that are the same as or worse than my current iPhone, then it's not an upgrade.

If you have a 6s Plus 128gb phone, the only upgrade IS an iPhone 7...
 
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I want to sue McDonald's if the clerk doesn't deliver my food quite fast enough. I want to be a lead plaintiff so only me and the lawyers ever see cash everybody else gets a $5 coupon if you go through all the procedures to get it, and, don't loose it and remember to use it.

Or, you could win and make sure that Apple doesn't screw you again next year. Or should everybody say and do nothing and get hosed again?
 
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I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous.
Is it? What about those who will be making extra payments for no reason to have to wait for the new iPhone? And that same person will be one or two months behind next September when they're ready to upgrade to the next model. Ooops, won't be able to until they shell out another two payments. ($80.00)

If you actually read the lawsuit, it has a lot of merit. It may seem ridiculous, but it may not be so ridiculous when Apple is lifting $80.00 out of your wallet. Just sayin'.
 
Did the upgrade program include first dibs?

If not, what are people complaining about?
 
Problem is, you're signing up for a loan valued at the full cost of the phone with eligibility to upgrade after 12 months. Nowhere does it say an upgrade is guaranteed after 12 months. It's spelled out in the contract. I seriously read every word when I signed up.

That said, Apple has certainly underestimated the popularity of their program and really should deploy more phones for those wanting to participate in the program.

No, the problem is both the consumer and Apple understood the contract and when the consumer tried to place an order and maximize his value under the contract, Apple said, "Uh, not so fast there hot shot. Get to the back of the line and let me serve everyone else ahead of you. And BTW, if that means you keep paying for an extra month or two, well, haha, we win!"
 
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Meh, put the ones who need to finance their luxury device... behind the ones who can buy it outright.

Maybe they'll rethink their priorities.
The smart man let's his $850 earn interest for 2 years whilst taking advantage of an interest free loan!
[doublepost=1473727259][/doublepost]My two cents on this. It sucks if you've been 'screwed', but as other have said, the IUP doesn't guarantee you a new phone on the day of launch. Once you've made 12 payments on the unsecured loan an individual entered into with Citizens One you are eligible to upgrade.
 
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I'm confused. From reading the forums lately, I thought this was the least desired upgrade since.... ever? :rolleyes:;):D
Getting my Jet-Black 7+ also, once the dust settles.

It is the least desirable update, for many. But many are upgrading so they don't have to keep paying for an old phone. I'm on the iPhone Upgrade program, so why would I pay 13 or 14 payments for a phone I was only supposed to pay 12 payments for? That's almost $100 worth. If I wasn't on this program, I couldn't give a **** less about upgrading this year.

You've gotta feel just a little bit bad for Apple at times like these. The fact that they have to spend so much time and energy defending ridiculous lawsuits such as this one, while they were merely trying to create an easy yearly upgrade plan for the most satisfied and well-heeled of their clientele. Time and resources that could have been better spent on other more important things. The ugly face of human greed I suppose.

No way I feel sorry for them. And you shouldn't either. They have $200 Billion, and are still penny pinching their way around, from cutting product costs to saving on taxes. They also have fantastic lawyers that will be able to get away with things you could only dream of.

You are right though, this program was supposed to create an easy yearly upgrade plan for many folks. But what they ended up doing was channeling said group into the physical Apple Store ordering channel. This mishap is so idiotic, they actually deserve to get roasted for this.

Think about it, due to this reason alone, people will end up paying payments worth 13 months, or even 14 months when 12 was theoretically supposed to be the max until you got your new iPhone. So if you take on average, $35/month, and at least a million people on the iPhone Upgrade Program, that's $35 million worth of false payments. Chump change for AAPL, but no so much for all the consumers. A lawsuit is justifiable.
 
I suppose you'd have to revisit the definition of the word "upgrade" is. If I am offered an iPhone that has features that are the same as or worse than my current iPhone, then it's not an upgrade.

If you have a 6s Plus 128gb phone, the only upgrade IS an iPhone 7...
There are still dozens of iPhone 7 32GBs available at my local apple stores for launch day pickup. There is your upgrade. Nothing mentions it has to be the device you particularly want.
 
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