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Apple Hit with 'Planned Obsolescence' Lawsuit in Brazil over Fourth-Generation iPad
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Yep, this. Apple po'd a lot of people with the short cycle of the iPad 3/4. Does it really matter? Hmmm, no not really, I bought my wife an iPad 3 in July, and while it would have been nice to have the newest, it is what it is, technology moves on. But for those people who bought one 60 or days before and could not get a refund, I bet they are pissed. Especially since I bet a lot of people feel the iPad 3 was released with less than optimal specs and the iPad 4 was rushed out to fix it.
This is what happens when you buy technology in an information void; not much you can do about it.
Well, your definition is wrong therefor your argument is very flawed. The correct definition:
Obsolescence is the state of being which occurs when an object, service or practice is no longer wanted even though it may still be in good working order.
Hmm...
From Wikipedia:
While you might argue that the iPad 3 became less fashionable once the iPad 4 came out, I think it'd be a hard sell.
Now, I don't argue that there isn't room to be irritated, but that irritation comes from assumptions about what Apple "owes" you. If you refinance your home mortgage and a month later the bank drops its lending rates by a full percentage point, which could have saved you tens of thousands of dollars if you had know, if you had waited, do you sue the bank? Nope.
Now, if the case is made that by their general practices Apple implied to their customers that iPads bought in, say, August would have a six month, or so, top market position, and because Apple then released a new version only a couple of months later, they effectively deceived their customers with those sales, then, well, perhaps. But if you look at Apple's releases, they have never been perfectly regular. Sometimes they release a minor bump shortly before a more significant update. Other times they let a release slide out a few months so they can release the full upgrade altogether.
If we were to take it from Apple's perspective. Suppose for a moment the following. The newest chip isn't ready yet. The new connector isn't ready yet. There is a desire to shift the release into the months leading up to the holiday season, to best capitalize on that consumer buying time. Competition is getting hotter all the time. So, now you have to make a decision, delay the new release completely for six months, letting the iPad 2 get longer and longer in the tooth while the competition is stepping up its game, or break the full upgrade into two pieces, the first being at the expected release time, the second being at Apple's desired new release time. Which of these approaches makes more sense, given the circumstances?
And, given that choice, do you tell people "oh, there'll be a new model coming in just a few months!"? Of course not. That kind of thing has been known to destroy companies before...
I think everyone who bought an iPad 3 expecting it to be the top of the line device for the next year should be given a coupon for any one movie they want off iTunes.
...cuz I'd really like to have a free movie.
...cuz I'd really like to have a free movie.
I had a 1 slice toaster and held out for the 4 slice. As soon as I bought that, they came out with a 6 slice. What the hell am I supposed to do now? What kind of sandwich can you make with 4 slices? I'm super pissed.
To me, planned obsolescence is more about discontinuing support for a given product in a relatively short period of time, not making regular updates to a product line. No one forces you to buy a newer product, but it's not right to dump all support for a product less than two years later, IMO. The latter sort of thing DOES tick me off and I wouldn't mind seeing a lawsuit on that one just to drive the point home to Apple (i.e. they're getting shorter and shorter with iOS support, IMO)
First Australia now Brazil!
You go guy's it's time to teach the big companies whose actually in charge.
You go guy's it's time to teach the big companies whose actually in charge.
My guess is 'No', they're not going after other tech companies cause APPLE is perceived to be an easy mark, and the whole world knows how many Billions they've got. Don't most companies have disclaimers on their websites and/or product packaging stating that they reserve the right to make improvements/changes to their products without prior notice? Imagine if this lawsuit were to be successful; it would have a chilling effect throughout the industry, and would stifle innovation.
These class-action participants are receiving this year's prize for the most ridiculous lawsuit.
If a shop sells used and new iPads, then you would expect some users asking for "used" and some asking for "new" iPads, and "new" might not mean "the latest model". In a store that only sells new products, when I ask for "new" I obviously mean "the latest model".
If I ask for the latest model, and what the store sells is not the latest model but I'm told it is the latest, then it is not sold as advertised.
Apple is known to do this (see for example my posts at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1321726/ and https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16749279/ for more info) but not in this (iPad 3 vs. 4) case. Yet.
About time someone had a go at apple about this,
Apples upgrades hardware with an incremental speed increase, or slightly better camera, then forces "upgrade perceived value" by withholding "features" that are entirely software based and would run fine on the old model.
If Microsoft and Intel had collaborated to release a new OS with every processor upgrade the anti-trust suits would have been mile high
No sir, this new version of office wont work if you try and install it on your PC, you need to upgrade to this years new CPU...
Apples upgrades hardware with an incremental speed increase, or slightly better camera, then forces "upgrade perceived value" by withholding "features" that are entirely software based and would run fine on the old model.
If Microsoft and Intel had collaborated to release a new OS with every processor upgrade the anti-trust suits would have been mile high
No sir, this new version of office wont work if you try and install it on your PC, you need to upgrade to this years new CPU...
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Just about to upgrade from my 1 to a mini, purely because the mini fits in my jacket pocket and the iPad does not. But it annoys me to think that later this year they will release a mini with a slightly faster CPU and probably retina display and ill be left without a load of "features" that are software only, and have only been left out to get people to abandon the old models and buy a new one, annoys me, does not make me plan on upgrading again until it fails or a better device suited to my needs is released.
Its better to buy Apple stuff just after its refreshed ...you wont be disappointed by better model coming up just month/two after your purchase
Btw , Its not necessary to have latest gadget ... If better model comes ,your device still works like champ 
Btw , Its not necessary to have latest gadget ... If better model comes ,your device still works like champ
No, they are saying the iPad3 is obsolete.
This is pointless as at the end of the day the iPad3 will still get updates for at least the next 12months if not more. iPad4 was really a minor revision, my guess is that Apple released the iPad3 quickly so that they could keep their position in the tablet market with an up to date product whilest they got the iPhone5, iPad4 and iPad Mini ready, which makes perfect sense.
iPad3 is still an excellent tablet, better than most tablets in the market, so I don't see what's wrong.
An institute of lawyers suing Apple... why didn't I think of that?
...must be final examinations week.
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Those asshats at STEAM sold me Borderlands 2 at 59.99 USD and SIX HOURS LATER (I **** you not) it was being sold at a 25% discount!! 24 hours later it was 50% discount (yes, this was the Black Saturday sale... stupid me) !!!!
BUT IM STILL PISSED!
I think I'll sue STEAM for ripping me off. I tried Aspyr but they basically said coz I bought it from Steam, I'm screwed.
OH OH... and THEN.... I bought their BS "digital" game guide. TOTAL CRAP. It's a retarded FLASH manual -- that REQUIRES AN INTERNET CONNECTION. It's total crap in so many ways! But I'll blog about this elsewhere.
...must be final examinations week.
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Those asshats at STEAM sold me Borderlands 2 at 59.99 USD and SIX HOURS LATER (I **** you not) it was being sold at a 25% discount!! 24 hours later it was 50% discount (yes, this was the Black Saturday sale... stupid me) !!!!
BUT IM STILL PISSED!
I think I'll sue STEAM for ripping me off. I tried Aspyr but they basically said coz I bought it from Steam, I'm screwed.
OH OH... and THEN.... I bought their BS "digital" game guide. TOTAL CRAP. It's a retarded FLASH manual -- that REQUIRES AN INTERNET CONNECTION. It's total crap in so many ways! But I'll blog about this elsewhere.
iPad1 is becoming obsolete
I'm a happy iPad1 user, but it is hard to find apps that do not require iOS6. That is very annoying as 100% of those apps had a fully working iOS5 version that you cannot get anymore.
Where to DL older versions of the apps?
you are right, as owner of apple macbook 2010 would felt the exact effect, you can not do airplay to external TV or monitor with Apple TV, that is a kick in the teeth, sick to the stomach. You have to hook up with wires to external devices, just 2 years or so with new OSX, what a let down.
you don't recall the MR uproar threads when the 4 was announced?
Yeah I know people b*tch about Apple not updating things fast enough and people b*tch about them updating things too fast and making their device not the latest and greatest. The Galaxy S4 will come out in March and then it will be all D&G, all Apple needs to get the iPhone 6 with 5 display out ASAP.
Hypothetically, what if you went to a store and the iPad 3 and 4 were both being sold as new and you asked for a new iPad and they gave you the 3 and didn't tell you there were 2 models?
Can you read?? It is the iPad 3 they are talking about, being quickly replaced by the iPad 4.
Wow farley..
Yep, sorry, typo, I have handed in my membership card.
The only reason there was an iPad 4 was so apple could have the amazing and magical new lightning connector across the entire iToy range. This enabled it's customers to buy new cables and accessories and put the last nail in the coffin of PowerPC. I personally would like to thank Apple for privilege of buying new cables and accessories for my accessory. I mean the 30 pin was so legacy.