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Apple Hit With Securities Fraud Lawsuit for Hiding iPhone Sales Drop
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Maybe... time will tell. Im old enough to remember when Big Blue was the dominant industry force. Then Microsoft. Apple used to be laughed at. I personally believe it's only a matter of time until other companies pass Apple. Even right now... there isn't much separation from competitors.
And don't forget... Apple only deals with a minute market of consumer tech. Phones and watches certainly don't make up much of a percentage of consumer technology.
So you think its totally beyond belief that the head of the company makes key decisions in determining the road map of its core product lines? hot take
That makes me think of Office Space immediately
You are conflating Apple as a company and the consumer electronics industry as a whole.
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, but I don't think I'm conflating the two at all. Certainly the post you quoted, where I refer to the company's roadmap of their core products, I think I couldn't possibly be talking about anything else but Apple's roadmap of their core products.
How competition has responded, when the overall competition has been limited and finite for so long from the 'big players', is rather lazily. That's why Androids have notches and no headphone jacks, and hiked prices, just to state the obvious again. And it sells too, so why would they put in any more effort? They'd be silly to
Also, every time Tim appears on TV, he's always speaking in a hyperbolic and cryptic manner about how something huge is just around the bend. He keeps us in suspense all the time, for years at a time, because he doesn't actually deliver!
I thought this would be a more thought provoking observation that I brought up, but instead its turned into ad hominem attacks... which I'm ok with (PRSI veteran, checking in), I just find it overall very uninteresting.
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One Steve Jobs comes to mind.
In this case the ‘bitter share holders’ are a county’s retirement fund managers who don’t want people to figure out how incompetent they are.
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No, I didn't. I thought it was a childish joke. You noticed a similarity between the words "Cook" and "crook"; it's basic phonetics. Childish joke ≠ sacrilege.
Dude, I really don't disagree. There's just a huge chasm between what you're saying now and what you claimed in your OP. Even if you won't concede that he's a genius inventor (he isn't), that still doesn't mean he's stunting tech growth.
Regarding the thought experiment, doesn't the same apply to desktops? Intel is largely in charge of that, and their progress has also been plateauing. I think that's normal with any aging tech and not something that can be attributed to Mr. Book. (See what I did there?)
As for supply chain snags you mentioned, again, I don't see how this is indicative of stunted tech growth. There were errors under Jobs' ruler under Scully and Amelio, too. Every company has these snags, but that isn't proof that their CEOs are negatively affecting the tech industry.
I think you made a trite joke and don't have sufficient evidence to back up your hyperbolic claim. You even agree with me on one of those points. For perspective, I'm not a massive Cook fan myself; I think he's maintaining business as usual.
The difference is nobody is at all even remotely claiming desktops are still in the cycle of innovation, whereas many will maintain Apple is indeed, still very much innovating.
Not an accurate whataboutism.
...As for the rest, I'm simply not interested in arguing about your semantical interpretations so I'll opt out.
It's become such the talk of the town, maybe even internally at Cupertino, skepticism whether or not Apple still has 'it', that, as you know, Phil Schiller famously said this on stage during a presentation, way back in (2013?) when they released the non-modular dumpster fire trashcan:
I'm… I'm more concerned with those rouge quotes in that speech bubble.The difference is nobody is at all even remotely claiming desktops are still in the cycle of innovation, whereas many will maintain Apple is indeed, still very much innovating. Not an accurate whataboutism. As for the rest, I'm simply not interested in arguing about your semantical interpretations.
It's become such the talk of the town, maybe even internally at Cupertino, that Phil Schiller famously said this way back in (2013?) when they released the non-modular dumpster fire trashcan:
I'm… I'm more concerned with those rouge quotes in that speech bubble.
Didnt make it just googled it, haha.
You know I have a point, you just refuse to concede that any of it is sticking. And that's your prerogative.
You need a separate login for textual content. Too much cognitive dissonance seeing your name next to a block of text.
The suit will go away. You don’t think apple’s internal lawyers advised on the entire thing?
Which they were not required to do. Plus they informed everyone that they would no longer do it a whole 3 months prior to when they did what they said they were going to do.
The crux of the suit will probably be "what did Apple know and when did they know it?" If/when that info comes out, we'll know the validity of the lawsuit.
Which "people" always do that? Please, name even one person who "always attribute Apple's successes 'single handedly' to Tim." Just one.
It's lazy to argue against a strawman. But it sounds desperate, and is never convincing.
Haha, I was thinking the same about you!
I’ve already given you context; I don’t blindly adore cook, but I still think your OP was hyperbolic.I thought macrumors was required reading for "law talking people" ?
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Hutz is a stereotypical ambulance chasing lawyer in Springfield
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Hutz is a stereotypical ambulance chasing lawyer in Springfield
This is Roseville, MI. Must be distinguished from the 11 other Roseville's in the US.
Haha, I was thinking the same about you!
But... I admitted you have a point (not really a big deal to confess other people with different perspectives sometimes solicit me to think differently, I like when this happens actually), about the supply chain thing, even though its a flawed summation given several obvious product launch failures and delays.
They'll pay nothing because they did nothing wrong.
They made a prediction for guidance based on prior results, and then they issued revised guidance (as per SEC rules) when it came in slightly lower.
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Sounds like you fished this comment out of the same pond you got the "A12 processor has a scheduler design flaw" garbage.
@AngerDanger , there's something different about you today.
What? What do you mean? It’s not like I’ve captured him and chained him to a sewage pipe, forced to make GIFs and edit photos for my personal amusement! That would be ridiculous.
*muffled AngerDanger noises from the basement*
SILENCE DOG
@AngerDanger puts the motion on its gifs or else it gets the hose again.