And that inculdes their business grade laptops, servers, and desktops and workstations. Keep in mind Apple doesnt make busines grade desktops or laptops to start with.
Their consumer grade PCs tho, yeah HPs arent great
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Apple Hits New High with 13.6% Share of U.S. PC Shipments in 3Q 2012, Lenovo Captures Worldwide Title
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And that inculdes their business grade laptops, servers, and desktops and workstations. Keep in mind Apple doesnt make busines grade desktops or laptops to start with.
Their consumer grade PCs tho, yeah HPs arent great
The Macbook line of products are probably not going to do much better in the long run. Many people are upset at Apple's inability to support older hardware/software and most are catching on that owning an Apple computer is a 1-2 year lifecycle leaving many loyal customers out in the dark. Many of my clients who were diehard Apple users have recently gone back to PC's, to Lenovo for their Thinkpads.
Thunderbolt is an expensive failure and hardly anyone's using it except for a small demographic of professionals and pro-sumers. There's been no such benefit to Thunderbolt over USB 3.0 and older Macbooks that are based on USB 2.0 are without a Thunderbolt to USB 3.0 adapter unless they intend on shelling out several hundred dollars for a yet unreleased Belkin and Matrox media boxes.
Thunderbolt is an expensive failure and hardly anyone's using it except for a small demographic of professionals and pro-sumers. There's been no such benefit to Thunderbolt over USB 3.0 and older Macbooks that are based on USB 2.0 are without a Thunderbolt to USB 3.0 adapter unless they intend on shelling out several hundred dollars for a yet unreleased Belkin and Matrox media boxes.
1. Yes they have, this last quarter, according to Tim Cook.
2. iPods and iPhones seldom replace a new PC purchase. iPads often do. That matters.
I'm not sure of the logic in #2. I'm not debating - I'm just not sure that just because people buy an iPad instead of a PC (if that's your claim) that it makes the iPad worthy of being counted in the same category (if that's what you're suggesting).
Because the majority of the PC market isn't very profitable. What's the value in working overtime and selling tons of stuff at almost no profit to cheapskates? Let HP & Dell crank out boxes, and update their product line almost weekly, for nearly nothing in total profits.
Oh, by "PC" I meant consumer grade (personal) since I personally don't consider workstations and public use computers "PC"s. Also, Apple does make the Mac Pro workstation and Mac Pro server, and some people use iMacs or Mac Minis for audio-related stuff.
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What if you buy a PC that's a Mac?
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The iPad is the best PC for old people. My grandma has one, and it couldn't be any better. I'm not saying that it's a toy, just that it's admirably easy to use.
Sorry, but please enlighten me as to which Mac hardware/software is unsupported 1 year after its release and has had only a 1 year life cycle (if you can't, then I will accept your explanation of which OS X product has had only a 2 year life cycle). Now it is true the Mountain Lion does require 2009 or later Mac Minis, but OTOH, it will also run on 2007 iMacs, and the reason that it will not run on older machines is that the transition to a 64-bit kernel can not support the 32-bit graphics drivers used by older video cards. This is the price of transitioning to a completely 64-bit kernel for improved memory addressing and performance, and it is not the kind of transition that is frequently made (the only previous transition that was equivalent to this one was the transition from PowerPC to Intel Core2Duo). Prior to Mountain Lion, new versions of OS X could usually run on 5 year old hardware (and in the case of the iMac and MBP, they still can), and I anticipate that this will again be the case, now that the transition is complete.
I do agree that Thunderbolt has had a very disappointing launch, although I'm still hoping that wider adoption will eventually drive down prices.
I don't think she (or my younger cousins) use it for anything but watching movies, watching Armenian TV, email, web browsing, AIM, and random games.
That is pretty much true. The only reason not to buy the Mac is because you can't afford one. Notice that no one even tries to sell apple-like notebooks at apple-like prices.
Remember the Microsoft ad where they give money to someone to buy a computer. They rush off the Apple store and see that they don't have quite enough money, so they buy a Dell or something. They took that ad down when they realized what they were telling people.
I would describe the differentiation in the same manner as the differentiation between desktop PCs and notebook PCs. Desktop PCs are more powerful than notebooks and have a different form factor, but they are still both counted as PCs. The computing power of tablet/slate PCs is comparable to the power of laptops from 5 years ago, and the gap will narrow over time, just as the gap between desktops and notebooks did. Yes, there are things that you can do with a notebook that you can't do with a tablet/slate right now, but 5 years ago, you could have said the same things about desktops and notebooks.
So I would consider the tablet/slate to be a third form factor of PCs, after desktops and notebooks.
Or you could go with Jobs' description of the iPad as a "post-PC" device. In that case, based on the drop in traditional PC sales demonstrated in this article, it appears that the "post-PC" era has indeed arrived, and it is dominated by Apple.
monoprice.con has Thunderbolt display adaptoer for $7. This is the first reasonable price "anything" that plugs into the TB port.
I agree Aple was dumb to lunch TB without also launching an array of accessories at a reasonable price. Now they have a problem. Who will invest in TB accessories knowing that the entire TB thing might fail and the next Macbook might not even have the port
Doubt it.
If i want 128-256gb of RAM, and fault tolerant local storage, then an iMac just isn't going to cut it.
And before you scoff and ask why anyone could ever want that - there are plenty of people out there using similar configurations in servers and high end workstations already.
Raw uncompressed HD video is large.
This article certainly has the potential to be spun in many ways. On the one hand, the number Mac sales dropped year over year, the first time I think I've seen that in the last 15 years. However, because sales of most other manufacturers dropped even more, Apple's market share increased.
I do think that the main difference for the drop in traditional PC sales is the iPad. I believe Apple stated in one of their earnings conferences that they were starting to see "PC" sales cannibalization by the iPad, but not any loss of Mac sales. It now appears that the huge success of the iPad has also come at the expense of Apple's own desktop and notebook lines.
With the massive profits Apple is earning from the iPad, I have started to wonder how much money, energy and personnel Apple will devote to continue to develop its Mac lines, and I do fear for the future of the Mac Pro and even the iMac.
I do think that the main difference for the drop in traditional PC sales is the iPad. I believe Apple stated in one of their earnings conferences that they were starting to see "PC" sales cannibalization by the iPad, but not any loss of Mac sales. It now appears that the huge success of the iPad has also come at the expense of Apple's own desktop and notebook lines.
With the massive profits Apple is earning from the iPad, I have started to wonder how much money, energy and personnel Apple will devote to continue to develop its Mac lines, and I do fear for the future of the Mac Pro and even the iMac.
really? so your telling me my employer wasted 23,000 dollars on my workstation because I could do the same thing on a Mac? ****, gotta tell boss man to get me an iPad!
Reasons to avoid a Mac, if you Need the following :
1: performance
2: enterprise support
3: expansion
4: software compatibility
5: long term software support
6: user serviceable computers, or computers that can be repaired in house
7: gaming
If you need any of the above, avoid Macs.
Before you haters chime in, I've been buying Macs for over a decade, and they've always served their purpose well, however at this point in time, they are no longer professional grade machines, they are 100% consumer machines.
Mac " Pro " what a joke.
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market share in US is not really effect. where is a world share? apple only works great in US. for worldwide, apple shares very tiny percentage. 4-5% number hasn't been even changed for decades. I don't think that the number will change. apple profit still depends on iphone, ipad more than 70% of all. mac sale can't even count to help it. that's why they focus desperately on idevices rather than mac. mac is still expensive. don't say that you can get it cheaper in US. but it's very expensive in other countries. people just don't buy it if you are not stupid. there are many good quality PC laptop in the market. people have many choices.
But Apple's sales figures are deliberately vague, so that it's impossible to determine sales by product line. Even after the 25th, you won't know how many Imacs and Mac Pros were sold.
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Not really. There's many reasons not to buy a mac. Let's list a couple:
1. You need windows, and osx doesn't have the support/versatility you need
2. Preference
3. You want better bang for your buck
There really is a list, and your ignorance is appalling.
You can run Windows on a Mac, that only leaves number 3 on that list depending on your definition of bang.