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I don't disagree with the fact that he can steer a mega ship. I'm referring to the creativity Steve had.

CEO's aren't supposed to usually have that kind of creativity.

Why do you think we all heaped so much praise on Steve Jobs? It's because among CEOs he really was one in a million.

And now people are concerned because Tim Cook is just a "really good CEO" and not another lightning bolt miracle?

How outrageous do your expectations have to be before you realize that the problem is not reality, but your high expectations of it?
 
we've been hearing the "Apple better watch out" thing for some years now.

Well, it's been true, what can I say.

Jobs doesn't get near enough credit for overcoming difficulties and obstacles -
he did a masterful job of growing Apple.
 
How much of this was all ready in the works and set up by Steve Jobs before he stepped down?

Personally, I think Cook was running a lot of the show long before Jobs stepped down and the medical leave. So this can definitely be the result of Cook while he was CEO-in-training. Though, the one thing that Jobs had that Cook obviously doesn't is a creative eye. Good CEO, not so good designer (Cook).

Either way, congratulations Tim Cook. Now, make me some mother ********** money!


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Full disclosure, I own and use products with a "" logo on it and I am currently holding a long position in AAPL.
 
CEO's aren't supposed to usually have that kind of creativity.

Why do you think we all heaped so much praise on Steve Jobs? It's because among CEOs he really was one in a million.

And now people are concerned because Tim Cook is just a "really good CEO" and not another lightning bolt miracle?

How outrageous do your expectations have to be before you realize that the problem is not reality, but your high expectations of it?

My expectations are reasonable. Before Tim computers were updated. Just look at the buyers guide. It's been a long time since there has been any real update.

Spec bumps ? A Retina display that has an under powered GPU ? No Mac Pro for almost 2 years.

No new iMac.

All Tim has done is make sure Apple sells a lot of toys.

The pro users are leaving Apple in droves.
 
My expectations are reasonable. Before Tim computers were updated. Just look at the buyers guide. It's been a long time since there has been any real update.

Spec bumps ? A Retina display that has an under powered GPU ? No Mac Pro for almost 2 years.

No new iMac.

All Tim has done is make sure Apple sells a lot of toys.

The pro users are leaving Apple in droves.

None of which has to do with "creativity." Each and every one of these is a business decision. Seriously, every point you raised is a marketing conversation, not a design one.

So I don't see why him being more or less creative has anything to do with any of this.
 
Tim Cook is a good CEO but he lacks of passion for the products, even Steve Jobs said so in his biography.

That's what Ive is for.


Ive and Forstall. Those guys have the real passion needed to create great products at Apple and Jobs surrounded himself with these kind of guys and built a good team. I can see one of these two guys running the show in a decade.
 
My expectations are reasonable. Before Tim computers were updated. Just look at the buyers guide. It's been a long time since there has been any real update.

Spec bumps ? A Retina display that has an under powered GPU ? No Mac Pro for almost 2 years.

No new iMac.

All Tim has done is make sure Apple sells a lot of toys.

The pro users are leaving Apple in droves.

Share price - 666.25. Nuff said.
 
My expectations are reasonable. Before Tim computers were updated. Just look at the buyers guide. It's been a long time since there has been any real update.

Spec bumps ? A Retina display that has an under powered GPU ? No Mac Pro for almost 2 years.

No new iMac.

All Tim has done is make sure Apple sells a lot of toys.

The pro users are leaving Apple in droves.

But the iToys & the baby & teen age Macs are the work of Steve Jobs. This cutting the Pro out of the Mac area started long ago by Steve Jobs. Do you remember when the Mac bluetooth keyboard had a complete extended keyboard with a numeric keypad? No new Mac Pro in over 2 years when even small Windows companies could produce models that show that the current Mac Pro is 2 generations behind them. Not the 1 generation that the processor will show.

If we see a new Mac Pro within the next 18 months or so we will have to give Tim Cook for bringing the Mac Pro back from near death. Now for a 17" Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro model. Will Tim Cook show his leadership in producing some Pro models. Or will he just continue the path that Steve Jobs started with the iMac many years ago?
 
I was looking at the trajectory Apple Stock has taken since 07 with a buddy of mine who works for Apple...I kept thinking "what would life be like now if I had bought some stock back then" as it has ballooned by a factor of 6 since then!

I'd be able to afford this new house of mine no problem.:D

A really good friend of mine bought Apple stock in early 2009 for about $90/share - he bought right under $25,000 worth of it too. His Financial Advisor told him to sell it just a few months later at $99.XX/share because Apple stock is bound to start going down with pressure from Samsung, Google, HTC, etc so he did just that. Just a few months ago he told me that he has literally cried because of making that decision. :p
 
My expectations are reasonable. Before Tim computers were updated. Just look at the buyers guide. It's been a long time since there has been any real update.

Spec bumps ? A Retina display that has an under powered GPU ? No Mac Pro for almost 2 years.

No new iMac.

All Tim has done is make sure Apple sells a lot of toys.

The pro users are leaving Apple in droves.

So, for all the good items, it's a legacy of Steve Jobs but for the less stellar items, it's Tim Cook's fault.

A company has to target the customers that are the most profitable in the long term. While the "pro market" may be leaving, the much larger consumer market is vastly over compensating for any loss of the "pros". And with the turnover of the consumer as opposed to the pros they are on track to continue being more and more important to the company.

I'd also venture that many "pros" have their share of Apple "toys" too.
 
RIP Steve, you will be missed.

But long live Tim, he's doing a great job. The charitable thing alone is a lovely thing to do.
 
A really good friend of mine bought Apple stock in early 2009 for about $90/share - he bought right under $25,000 worth of it too. His Financial Advisor told him to sell it just a few months later at $99.XX/share because Apple stock is bound to start going down with pressure from Samsung, Google, HTC, etc so he did just that. Just a few months ago he told me that he has literally cried because of making that decision. :p

I'd cry too....in fact, I'm shedding a tear just thinking about it!
 
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