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Well, after making 125% today alone on the july 250 puts, I put the same trade back on just prior to the close. Already would appear to be in the money, we'll see in the AM. I'll take it ALL off if we gap down in the am.
 
Well, after making 125% today alone on the july 250 puts, I put the same trade back on just prior to the close. Already would appear to be in the money, we'll see in the AM. I'll take it ALL off if we gap down in the am.

It would have been more profitable shorting GOOG before their quarterly earnings report - down $17.84 in after market trading.
 
All I know is, if there is a modification I WANT A NEW PHONE NOT A FIX! I don't want my phones value to go down because it was just one that was "fixed" versus being the real deal when I go to resell it next time I upgrade! :rolleyes:

Now, what am I going to do without a phone till they send me a new one? :confused: Hopefully they would just ship me a new one with a box to send the "old" one back so I'm not without a phone for a couple weeks!

Lotsa refurb iPhone 4's on the way! :D :D :D
 
Will Apple cover the ETF?

Maybe Apple will offer a special deal, where, for some very limited period, like 10 days from Friday, they will directly pay AT&T the ETF if you return your iPhone 4 and cancel your AT&T contract?
 
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Maybe Apple will offer a special deal, where, for some very limited period, like 10 days from Friday, they will directly pay AT&T the ETF if you return your iPhone 4 and cancel your AT&T contract?

I fully expect apple and at&t to work on an extension to return the unit, WITHOUT penalty from either party. ETF wouldn't apply if one started a contract new and they let you out of it free and clear
 
Maybe Apple will offer a special deal, where, for some very limited period, like 10 days from Friday, they will directly pay AT&T the ETF if you return your iPhone 4 and cancel your AT&T contract?

I fully expect apple and at&t to work on an extension to return the unit, WITHOUT penalty from either party. ETF wouldn't apply if one started a contract new and they let you out of it free and clear

That would be nice and honest, but we will see what happens!
 
Is it my fault??

please!! tell me the news conference Friday is not being held to tell me the iphone's sensor, antenna, reception and bluetooth problems are all my fault!..oh, they are my fault?..sorry
 
mis·quote [mis-kwoht]
-verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
1. to quote incorrectly.
-noun
2. a quotation that is incorrect.

Misquote is not something that can be "strong" or "weak". It's either true or false. Don't hide behind semantics. The implied meaning of the "quote" you attributed to Jobs is incorrect and something he didn't say.

"You're holding it wrong" implies that Jobs thinks it's acceptable to dictate how someone would hold a phone, as if it was in the user manual and the user is an idiot for not following directions. This is the reason that anti-Apple people have run away with this. It makes it seem like he said something he didn't.

"Avoid holding it in that way" simply implies that if you're having problems do this to avoid it. It doesn't have the same callous, patronizing meaning as the former "quote".

If I hit the quote button here, edited what you said an made an argument based on my changes would you call me out for it? I bet you would.

In lieu of 1000 words...

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Thanks, quadjojo!
 
I think there will be a recall.

I agree, but I bet that Apple won't call it a "recall".

They'll announce a program so that anyone with an original model can exchange it for a Rev.A model within 90 days.

Apple saves face, nobody loses the use of their Iphone 4 waiting for a replacement, and Apple regains some of the luster that they've lost in this fiasco.

I'll also bet that 95% of the Apple fans on MacRumours who have been saying "it's a non-issue" or "get a case" or "you're holding it wrong" will exchange their defective Iphone 4 models for a Rev.A model. :D The other 5% will have somehow missed the announcement of the "soft recall".
 
I had one of these and it dropped fewer calls than my iPhone4:
 

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Any word when this PC is supposed to start, be on TV, on the web or just live blogged like the keynotes?
 
Any word when this PC is supposed to start, be on TV, on the web or just live blogged like the keynotes?

I want to know this as well. Very interested to see how this press conference will take place. I imagine it will be in a similar setting to the iOS4 preview.

EDIT: Conference will take place 10:00am PDT.
 
I have a feeling that the Signal strength inaccuracy was purposefully created since the first iPhone so that its signal could be perceived as STRONG as compared to the competitors' offerings. When in actual fact, an iPhone's reception has traditionally been weaker than many phones.

Imagine many people seeing iPhones as having 3 bars in areas where previous phones had full 5 bars.

Now the supposedly software enhancement has resulted in ridiculous drop-offs due to death-grips. The thing is, my 3GS reduces reception with a bottom right death-grip on a poor network, but doesn't nudge on a strong network. The problem was always there, but more serious on the iPhone 4.

What has seemed to perceptively 'improve' the reception on the iPhone in the past has now came back to bite them.
 
I havent read this whole thread, but I tried searching and I don't think this has been posted.

He may not have the best track record for rumors, but this seems to be the best solution so far. One little piece that they could pop in at the store in 5 minutes, and fix the problem without having to use bumpers, or a coating or anything. This seems reasonable.

AppleInsider said:
As some customers have had their iPhone 4 orders delayed, a new rumor suggests that Apple will offer a free "brute force" internal hardware fix to existing customers in order to improve the device's antenna.

Analyst Ashok Kumar with Rodman & Renshaw spoke with AppleInsider on Thursday and revealed that overseas suppliers have indicated to him that Apple has decided on a hardware fix for the iPhone 4. He said sources have told him that the "mechanical fix" is the equivalent of placing a rubber stopgap on the inside of the phone, leaving the outside of the device untouched.

"From a cosmetic purpose, it's going to be completely transparent," Kumar said. "But from an engineering perspective, it's going to be more of a brute force than an elegant addition."

The goal, he said, aims to offer a quick fix to address concerns for customers. Kumar said it doesn't make sense for Apple to recall all iPhone 4 handsets and rebuild them from scratch with a "clean slate" design.

But Kumar said he expects the iPhone 4 antenna to be redesigned and fixed internally with a more "elegant" engineering solution when the Verizon iPhone 4 launches in the near future. He said it would also make sense for Apple to eventually apply the same internal fix for the current UMTS iPhone as well, once demand has been met.

"They're going to have a much more elegant design instead of putting a mechanical contraption inside," he said.

Kumar also said that AT&T has seen its fill timeline for new iPhone 4 orders stretched out to 8 weeks, suggesting delays in the manufacturing process as Apple settles on its approach. Recently, AT&T was waiting just 7 to 10 days for iPhone 4 orders.

In addition, AppleInsider has received word that some people have been notified that their iPhone 4 orders have been delayed. Some received e-mails direct from Apple citing an "unexpected delay." There has not been any indication that the delay notifications are widespread yet.

Kumar said he believes Apple decided to hold a press conference on Friday because the company's quarterly earnings report is next Tuesday. Addressing the antenna issue before then could save the company the burden of being bombarded by analysts about the issue next week, when the company's executives conduct their quarterly conference call.

Kumar was criticized last year after he noted that iPhone sales in China were "disappointing" before the device was even on sale. Also, in January of this year, he said he was told that the iPad would be available on the Verizon network through a subsidy -- a prediction that proved false. However, last fall, Kumar also correctly stated that Google would release its own custom-built handset, which came true when the Nexus One was announced.

Last year, Kumar told AppleInsider that a CDMA-only iPhone with a chipset from Qualcomm will be released for the Verizon network in the U.S. in 2010. He said a new dual-mode chip from Qualcomm will not be available in time for a summer 2010 launch for the new iPhone.
 
Thanks for that. Its going to be a late night here in Finland, with this press conference being 11pm local time.:p
 
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