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Lots of things point to the possibility of a portable mac that looks like an iPad.
• OSX Lion has the capability of the iOS UI (user-interface) and more.
• The Mac Air is the physical proof that OSX can come in small package.
• If iCloud is the future of storage, personal computers will be simply interface devices that need no hard disks or lots of gigs of memory.
• Thunderbolt hints of a future single computer interface with external accessories: monitors, personal backup storage, and so on.
• Wireless, airprint, 3G, 4G, etc. also support the coming of a simple portable mac.

The portable mac will not come soon to replace the iPad just yet.
 
What's the big deal? All macs produced after Lion launches will naturally ship with Lion, regardless of when they were last refreshed. So even if they released new macs now, they'd be shipping with Lion soon enough. It makes sense to ship with the latest version of the OS (can you imagine the complaints if they didn't?).

The number of people that wouldn't want the hassle of updating their mac two weeks after it was refreshed likely outnumber the people who purposely wish to avoid upgrading. I want a Mac Mini now, so I wish they were shipping now. I don't mind upgrading the OS, but I can understand why Apple wouldn't want to launch new products so close to the new OS launch.

If any system comes out with a particular version, you cannot go back to an earlier version. So if your apps are not lion compatible, your screwed until the software is updated. For those with apps who make a living from their software, they wont be able to get a faster machine.
 
Since Lion finally has TRIM support for SSD's, it sounds pretty logical to me that they will be shipping this with their new MBA's, right?

TRIM support is 1 of the most over rated issues. Sandforce controller = problem solved. As for the MBA, testing that I've seen shows no real TRIM issues. I am more than willing to stand corrected, but I'm just saying, that's at least what I've seen.
 
I can't imagine that anyone who needs a machine to do anything involved with making money would want a new untested OS running on it. Anyone in this boat will wait until 10.7.3 or 10.7.4 (unless they are risk tolerant newbies who just haven't had the misfortune of running a newly minted OS before. I know of a couple of people who fall into this camp who cursed apple after they ran into problems getting some of their third party software to run correctly).

And I can't imagine anyone would want to take the performance hit of running 10.6 in a virtual machine if they are serious about performance and productivity. Allow users to at last downgrade.
 
If any system comes out with a particular version, you cannot go back to an earlier version. So if your apps are not lion compatible, your screwed until the software is updated. For those with apps who make a living from their software, they wont be able to get a faster machine.

Once the sales of macs manufactured prior to Lion dry up, they won't be able to buy anything anyway. Refreshed models or not, it is STANDARD practice to ship the latest OS at the time when the product is produced. Which was my point.

Does Apple really need to cater to the very, very few people that were A) waiting for this particular MBA/mini refresh before purchasing and B) absolutely require Rosetta? You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

I want a new mini now, and have no problem updating, so I'd rather see them released ASAP, but there are obvious benefits to the typical consumer and to Apple if they wait. If Apple wants to wait, it's hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of things. If you need Snow Leopard, you probably have bigger concerns than the timing of this one refresh...
 
I am not liking all the "automatic" stuff that Steve was praising. I do not want my last document to open automatically. I do not want versioning of my documents that will have to be deleted. I do not want my documents automatically sent to the cloud and downloaded to every device. I definitely would prefer the new hardware with Snow Leopard so I can decide when I upgrade my OS, and more importantly, the software and hardware I am using.

In no way shape or form does waiting for Lion to be released have anything to do with making things "convenience" for consumers.

You know, there's an 'off' switch for iCloud. It may also surprise you that that you can selectively turn on/off what kind of things you want synced. Enough with the manufactured and contrived outrage.

As for the new saving/versioning system, it's something that will really help and benefit 95% of people out there, I'm thinking. It will ellieviate a massive tension point most people have with computers. As is obvious from the various sources of outrage on these forums, Apple caters to the majority, not a small niche that may not like a feature- it's what has made them successful. Also, I don't see how this system will negatively affect you- it happens invisibly in the background, and I'm sure you can always 'save as' manually. Who knows, it may save your ass once or twice. Or more. I know it would have saved mine on multiple occasions.
 
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Come on Apple I'll upgrade my new MBA myself! You're killing me with this wait!

I have convinced myself to go from Pc to apple and the mac air 13 4gb ram is the one for me. i cant wait any longer with these rumored upgrades i think its fantastic as it is. looking forward to being rid of pc issues...
 
I'd rather see a Mac mini upgrade with Thunderbolt, a Core i5/i7 CPU and a dedicated GPU with its own RAM at the cost of removing the optical drive. If you need one, the MacBook Air external drive works fine with the unibody Mac mini.

that, plus usb 3.0
(the ssd, i ll install it myself)
 
I have convinced myself to go from Pc to apple and the mac air 13 4gb ram is the one for me. i cant wait any longer with these rumored upgrades i think its fantastic as it is. looking forward to being rid of pc issues...

Come on... PC issues are pretty rare if you know what you're doing -that includes buying from the right hardware vendor...
 
If any system comes out with a particular version, you cannot go back to an earlier version. So if your apps are not lion compatible, your screwed until the software is updated. For those with apps who make a living from their software, they wont be able to get a faster machine.

To take care of what you say
buy the MBP now with OS X 10.6 upgrade to lion, if you run to a problem,
format the hard drive and reinstall 10.6
 
Apple is holding back on releasing updated Mac models in order to wait for work on OS X Lion to be completed.

Acceleration of the "early adopters" wave. This way, if there is whatever problem with the Air or Mini encountered in the field, there will be a much huger pile for the problem and many more customers even more unsatisfied with Apple. Think about this, Apple Marketing.

Store is "back soon", btw.
 
Can anyone explain to me how to upgrade from Leopard to Lion (in July of course, not now)?

Go to the app store. Download Lion. Install Lion. Easy huh?


on-topic, I believe they want to present the new MBAs as "the ultimate notebook".

You remember the phrase "The next generation of macbooks", meaning the air.
Now the new air upgrade coming with OSX Lion as a standard, it will be the ultimate combination of hardware and software. I just hope they do upgrade the hardware part a little bit more than just sandy bridge. For example, I believe they SHOULD use 4gb as a standard, and maybe more disk space.
By the way, let's all pray for a new white macbook (maybe a black one too xD)
 
If I erase my HD first how will I get Lion on without installing SL first (which would partly negate the point of starting with a clean slate)?

Well, noone knows yet how the OS install from the mac app store will work, but I'm guessing after downloading Lion you will be given the option to upgrade or format&install from scratch. We'll have to wait and see.


leopard doesn't have the app store.
woa, didn't know that. Does that mean it will cost double to upgrade from leopard to lion in comparison to Snow Leopard to lion?? Since it will ONLY be available in the mac app store...
 
I feel like I'm always "waiting" for the next best thing.
I definitely passed on the iPad 2 because I want the Retina Display with the next gen rumored for early 2012.
I passed on the i4 on Verizon because it was a 6 month old phone so I'll definitely be getting the i4s/i5 (whatever they call it).
And now I wondr about the MBP because of the rumored new design it's supposed to have next year.

Ahh if I just knew I would either buy/wait.


Well I'm waiting as well. No ipad 2, there is no need, is better than the first one but it's not the One ;)

Macbook pro yeah, I want that beast without optical drive and get surprised by apple by doing something amazing increasing the battery life and something more un-expected ;) And then it's going to be a Rev.A so we'll have to wait at least to Rev.B ;P to get fixed those thermal issues ;O

So expect something on november 2012 :p
 
I found a solution to the dilema. When a truly revolutionary product is released, I say s*rew Rev A and BUY. Examples are iPhone 1, PowerBook Titanium and C2D Mac-Mini.

As far as "gadgets" my real advise is if it appeals to you buy it, and set aside doubts and future obsolesence. For goodness sake all you iPhone 4 owners have it miles above 1, 3G, 3GS and the 3GS is still shipping as new from carriers!

Apple goes to great lengths to offer features to compel buying NOW right to the end of the product sales life, which is typically 4 years away from the end of its practical life. They also have a pricing strategy to make buying on price and features as factors simple and practical.

The days of Apple crippling products is over. They all well exceed needed performance for UI. The current limits are ISP services, wireless carriers and the services they will allow Apple to enable.

Apple is ahead of the curve for once.

Rocketman
 
Seeing that everyone is ranting about inconveniences I though I will join in.

Its a real shame that apple doesn't consider waiting to be an inconvenience, yes I save myself a 30 minute trip to the apple store and 1.20 in parking charges, but I have to wait 1 month for some laptop which Im not even going to buy? Stupid if you ask me, they could just hurry up and release lion, they are advertising that the upgrade will be easy, well if its easy then it shouldn't be an inconvenience for people with new hardware to upgrade then. Come on apple, waiting for your products is a greater inconvenience than doing a 25 minute upgrade.
 
Seeing that everyone is ranting about inconveniences I though I will join in.

Its a real shame that apple doesn't consider waiting to be an inconvenience, yes I save myself a 30 minute trip to the apple store and 1.20 in parking charges, but I have to wait 1 month for some laptop which Im not even going to buy?

No, you're waiting a few more weeks for Apple to finish Lion. It's not done yet.
 
Buy or Wait

Should I wait for the updated Cinema Display? Thinking about buying a second display for my setup or do you guys think Apple is not updating the cienma display with thunderbolt 720p face time camera?
 
Should I wait for the updated Cinema Display? Thinking about buying a second display for my setup or do you guys think Apple is not updating the cienma display with thunderbolt 720p face time camera?

I would wait until the Mac Pro's get updated which should be happening by the end of August. The Cinema Displays will likely get an update alongside it with Thunderbolt Ports/FaceTime HD Camera.
 
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